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How 'bout those Idaho Vandals?! - IWokeUpLikeThis - 12-22-2016 11:22 PM
1-11 to 9-4 in 2 seasons.
F(ire) C(huck) S(taben) shirts and signs galore. Did they ever fly that banner plane? 61-50 final after 0-0 1st quarter. Led 61-28 with a few minutes left.
14 point underdog. The CSU board pegged it as a blowout when the bowl was announced. They were bang-on.
Truly the Year of Eastern Michigan & Idaho!
RE: How 'bout those Idaho Vandals?! - LatahCounty - 12-22-2016 11:24 PM
WHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You SUCK, Chuck Staben.
RE: How 'bout those Idaho Vandals?! - stever20 - 12-22-2016 11:26 PM
Could be an even better night- Idaho up 6 on Stanford in basketball....
RE: How 'bout those Idaho Vandals?! - MWC Tex - 12-22-2016 11:35 PM
(12-22-2016 11:24 PM)LatahCounty Wrote: WHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!You need to redirect that to the Sunbelt. Indy isn't going to be going to you and no conference wants you or NMSU.
You SUCK, Chuck Staben.
RE: How 'bout those Idaho Vandals?! - Love and Honor - 12-22-2016 11:38 PM
I like to think that after the announcement was made that they'd be dropping down, their coach had a team meeting and they pretty much played out the "let's win the whole f'n thing" scene from Major League.
RE: How 'bout those Idaho Vandals?! - PirateTreasureNC - 12-22-2016 11:52 PM
http://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=400876045
And it was 0-0 at the end of 1... dafuq
RE: How 'bout those Idaho Vandals?! - hawghiggs - 12-23-2016 12:03 AM
Idaho will be better off in the FCS. Much more regional rivalries.
RE: How 'bout those Idaho Vandals?! - HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine - 12-23-2016 12:15 AM
(12-22-2016 11:38 PM)Love and Honor Wrote: I like to think that after the announcement was made that they'd be dropping down, their coach had a team meeting and they pretty much played out the "let's win the whole f'n thing" scene from Major League.
Here is hoping they didn't have a naked cutout of Staben!
RE: How 'bout those Idaho Vandals?! - quo vadis - 12-23-2016 10:14 AM
The Potato Bowl was a fun game to watch. Congratulations to Idaho!
RE: How 'bout those Idaho Vandals?! - quo vadis - 12-23-2016 10:17 AM
(12-22-2016 11:52 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote: http://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=400876045
And it was 0-0 at the end of 1... dafuq
Yes ... and when's the last time a team scored 36 points in a quarter, and lost?
RE: How 'bout those Idaho Vandals?! - MJG - 12-23-2016 11:24 AM
The only negative was that ice skating rink they played on luckily no serious injuries have been announced so far.
RE: How 'bout those Idaho Vandals?! - TodgeRodge - 12-23-2016 11:57 AM
Duane Nellis is available for a return as university president
he made a play for Wyoming recently so he would not mind getting back to the area
and the president of Idaho is dumb for moving down I understand the money issue, but they were saying all last night that it is a $5 million or so deficit that needs to be made up
BSU manages to pull it off and if you look at the Idaho budget it is $19 million with a $10 million subsidy and then you look at Idaho State in the Big Sky and it is $12 million with an $8 million subsidy and NODAK is $24 with a $10 subsidy
Portlandia State $15 with $10 subsidy
Boise chips in a tad bit more in school funds, but they bring in about a million more in donations and they bring in a ton more in licensing ect and about $7 million more in ticket sales
Idaho just went into give up mode and made excuses for everything and the reality is they are not going to have a great budget even in the D1-AA and they will still need a large subsidy to be competitive
they are not going to save ANY money and probably will take in LESS money and they WILL take a hit from the stand point of academics even if that is in no way, shape or form deserved
this is a VERY short term decision for them and will haunt them for a long time if they do not make another decision
RE: How 'bout those Idaho Vandals?! - goofus - 12-23-2016 12:06 PM
Maybe its just time to accept shifting population trends, and start shifting state resources to make Boise St the new academic flagship university for the state, which could then one day get Boise St into the PAC -12
RE: How 'bout those Idaho Vandals?! - jacksfan29 - 12-23-2016 12:06 PM
Idaho is not Boise. They have had 4 winning seasons in 20 years. They have no conference, few fans and are short on money with no ability to make up the deficit. The Sun Belt didn't want them. The MWC (there only real option) won't take them. They can hope for the mythical FBS WAC to come to fruition or they can go where they always belonged, the Big Sky with the Montana schools.
When even your most famous FB alum, Schlereth was thrilled with the announcement to move back to the Big Sky and FCS, you know the right decision was made. Idaho has a chance to become relevant again.
(12-23-2016 11:57 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote: Duane Nellis is available for a return as university president
he made a play for Wyoming recently so he would not mind getting back to the area
and the president of Idaho is dumb for moving down I understand the money issue, but they were saying all last night that it is a $5 million or so deficit that needs to be made up
BSU manages to pull it off and if you look at the Idaho budget it is $19 million with a $10 million subsidy and then you look at Idaho State in the Big Sky and it is $12 million with an $8 million subsidy and NODAK is $24 with a $10 subsidy
Portlandia State $15 with $10 subsidy
Boise chips in a tad bit more in school funds, but they bring in about a million more in donations and they bring in a ton more in licensing ect and about $7 million more in ticket sales
Idaho just went into give up mode and made excuses for everything and the reality is they are not going to have a great budget even in the D1-AA and they will still need a large subsidy to be competitive
they are not going to save ANY money and probably will take in LESS money and they WILL take a hit from the stand point of academics even if that is in no way, shape or form deserved
this is a VERY short term decision for them and will haunt them for a long time if they do not make another decision
RE: How 'bout those Idaho Vandals?! - MWC Tex - 12-23-2016 12:07 PM
(12-23-2016 11:57 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote: Duane Nellis is available for a return as university president
he made a play for Wyoming recently so he would not mind getting back to the area
and the president of Idaho is dumb for moving down I understand the money issue, but they were saying all last night that it is a $5 million or so deficit that needs to be made up
BSU manages to pull it off and if you look at the Idaho budget it is $19 million with a $10 million subsidy and then you look at Idaho State in the Big Sky and it is $12 million with an $8 million subsidy and NODAK is $24 with a $10 subsidy
Portlandia State $15 with $10 subsidy
Boise chips in a tad bit more in school funds, but they bring in about a million more in donations and they bring in a ton more in licensing ect and about $7 million more in ticket sales
Idaho just went into give up mode and made excuses for everything and the reality is they are not going to have a great budget even in the D1-AA and they will still need a large subsidy to be competitive
they are not going to save ANY money and probably will take in LESS money and they WILL take a hit from the stand point of academics even if that is in no way, shape or form deserved
this is a VERY short term decision for them and will haunt them for a long time if they do not make another decision
Portland State doesn't get a subsidy. The are required to be self funding to have football. If they can't be self-funding they have to drop football.
Have to wonder if the NCAA will really ever enforce the attendance requirement. But in any case, FBS/D1 changes will be coming down the road probably in the next 5 years to up the number of sports required to be D1 or add more benefits on top of the existing ones.
UI deficit may be $5 million this year...but that grows bigger and bigger with the expense of FBS and no capacity to increase revenue and they don't have any big donations that would help them stay in FBS. Idaho will lead by example and others will follow suit in the next few years.
RE: How 'bout those Idaho Vandals?! - LatahCounty - 12-23-2016 01:09 PM
(12-23-2016 11:57 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote: Duane Nellis is available for a return as university president
he made a play for Wyoming recently so he would not mind getting back to the area
and the president of Idaho is dumb for moving down I understand the money issue, but they were saying all last night that it is a $5 million or so deficit that needs to be made up
BSU manages to pull it off and if you look at the Idaho budget it is $19 million with a $10 million subsidy and then you look at Idaho State in the Big Sky and it is $12 million with an $8 million subsidy and NODAK is $24 with a $10 subsidy
Portlandia State $15 with $10 subsidy
Boise chips in a tad bit more in school funds, but they bring in about a million more in donations and they bring in a ton more in licensing ect and about $7 million more in ticket sales
Idaho just went into give up mode and made excuses for everything and the reality is they are not going to have a great budget even in the D1-AA and they will still need a large subsidy to be competitive
they are not going to save ANY money and probably will take in LESS money and they WILL take a hit from the stand point of academics even if that is in no way, shape or form deserved
this is a VERY short term decision for them and will haunt them for a long time if they do not make another decision
100% correct. Moving to FCS solves precisely zero of Idaho's problems and creates several more.
RE: How 'bout those Idaho Vandals?! - LatahCounty - 12-23-2016 01:10 PM
(12-23-2016 12:06 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote: Idaho is not Boise. They have had 4 winning seasons in 20 years. They have no conference, few fans and are short on money with no ability to make up the deficit. The Sun Belt didn't want them. The MWC (there only real option) won't take them. They can hope for the mythical FBS WAC to come to fruition or they can go where they always belonged, the Big Sky with the Montana schools.
When even your most famous FB alum, Schlereth was thrilled with the announcement to move back to the Big Sky and FCS, you know the right decision was made. Idaho has a chance to become relevant again.
Fun fact -- nobody has ever won an argument by saying "Mark Schlereth said this was a good idea."
RE: How 'bout those Idaho Vandals?! - Bronco85 - 12-23-2016 02:15 PM
(12-23-2016 01:10 PM)LatahCounty Wrote:(12-23-2016 12:06 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote: Idaho is not Boise. They have had 4 winning seasons in 20 years. They have no conference, few fans and are short on money with no ability to make up the deficit. The Sun Belt didn't want them. The MWC (there only real option) won't take them. They can hope for the mythical FBS WAC to come to fruition or they can go where they always belonged, the Big Sky with the Montana schools.
When even your most famous FB alum, Schlereth was thrilled with the announcement to move back to the Big Sky and FCS, you know the right decision was made. Idaho has a chance to become relevant again.
Fun fact -- nobody has ever won an argument by saying "Mark Schlereth said this was a good idea."
well... only Mrs. Schlereth. Congratulations on a nice win and an entertaining season, Vandals.
RE: How 'bout those Idaho Vandals?! - TrojanCampaign - 12-23-2016 03:18 PM
In FCS they have local teams, stability, and the chance to play for national championships.
In FBS they have none of that and they would have to accept 2-3 blowout games a year to pay the SBC to keep them. It's something that for sure should be looked at but that's all up to the fans and the state.
I think with a 4 game OOC you could afford to play two SEC games a year and direct that money into lowering the cost of travel for SBC members. And I also feel like Idaho could convince the SBC to let them stay if they commit to having seasons like this more often.
Another important thing is they would need to strongly push for the state to force Boise St. into a permanent home and home with them. There is no reason Boise should be traveling to ULL when the state flagship is struggling.
Here is an example I would go for:
@Tennessee
@Florida
vs Idaho State
SBC
SBC
SBC
SBC
SBC
SBC
SBC
SBC
vs Boise State (Rivalry week)
That gives them at least 6 games they feasibly could win every year. Two games that they could get a major payday for. And two games in Idaho that fans can easily travel to.
RE: How 'bout those Idaho Vandals?! - panama - 12-23-2016 03:22 PM
The deficit argument is largely a joke at most schools. How much is athletics really costing any school? Its a debit in once column and a credit somewhere else on the university's ledger. Idaho has a a fiscal 2017 budget of $469M. $5M is one percent of that. How much publicity did they get from playing a nationally televised games on ESPN last night? President's only become concerned with "deficits" in an attempt to eliminate a program.