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If We Only Had A COG! - AppManDG - 11-26-2016 08:10 PM
Sorry, I couldn't resist....
RE: If We Only Had A COG! - WinstonTheWolf - 11-26-2016 08:12 PM
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RE: If We Only Had A COG! - appsfan - 11-26-2016 08:12 PM
Two years...
RE: If We Only Had A COG! - chiefsfan - 11-26-2016 08:30 PM
If we had a title game this year...App wouldn't be playing in it.
RE: If We Only Had A COG! - AppManDG - 11-26-2016 08:54 PM
(11-26-2016 08:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: If we had a title game this year...App wouldn't be playing in it.
Exactly. That's how idiotic the whole idea is with 5 team divisions. You either play everyone in the conference or just the teams in your division.
RE: If We Only Had A COG! - chiefsfan - 11-26-2016 09:02 PM
(11-26-2016 08:54 PM)AppManDG Wrote:(11-26-2016 08:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: If we had a title game this year...App wouldn't be playing in it.
Exactly. That's how idiotic the whole idea is with 5 team divisions. You either play everyone in the conference or just the teams in your division.
I agree with you. I just hate the idea that a Championship Game could be a rematch between two teams who have already played.
RE: If We Only Had A COG! - OsageJ - 11-26-2016 09:02 PM
(11-26-2016 08:54 PM)AppManDG Wrote:(11-26-2016 08:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: If we had a title game this year...App wouldn't be playing in it.
Exactly. That's how idiotic the whole idea is with 5 team divisions. You either play everyone in the conference or just the teams in your division.
Will Troy be in your division. I imagine you play everyone in your division so if if it does come up that the top two has one loss first tie breaker would be head to head.
RE: If We Only Had A COG! - chiefsfan - 11-26-2016 09:03 PM
(11-26-2016 09:02 PM)OsageJ Wrote:(11-26-2016 08:54 PM)AppManDG Wrote:(11-26-2016 08:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: If we had a title game this year...App wouldn't be playing in it.
Exactly. That's how idiotic the whole idea is with 5 team divisions. You either play everyone in the conference or just the teams in your division.
Will Troy be in your division. I imagine you play everyone in your division so if if it does come up that the top two has one loss first tie breaker would be head to head.
Yes, East Division is loaded with App, Troy, and GS. Coastal and GSU fill out the East. West is AState, UL, ULM, TXST, USA
RE: If We Only Had A COG! - Michael in Raleigh - 11-26-2016 09:11 PM
(11-26-2016 09:02 PM)OsageJ Wrote:(11-26-2016 08:54 PM)AppManDG Wrote:(11-26-2016 08:30 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: If we had a title game this year...App wouldn't be playing in it.
Exactly. That's how idiotic the whole idea is with 5 team divisions. You either play everyone in the conference or just the teams in your division.
Will Troy be in your division. I imagine you play everyone in your division so if if it does come up that the top two has one loss first tie breaker would be head to head.
Yup. Don't care. App State is a conference champion.
To quote Cal Naughton Jr. in Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby: "Even though it may have been on a technicality, You try to take this away from me, I'll sock you straight in the face!"
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RE: If We Only Had A COG! - HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine - 11-26-2016 09:32 PM
5 teams are going to feel strange.
RE: If We Only Had A COG! - GaSoEagle - 11-26-2016 09:44 PM
I would prefer 1 10 team group and play 9 chance nference games
RE: If We Only Had A COG! - Saint3333 - 11-26-2016 10:39 PM
(11-26-2016 09:44 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote: I would prefer 1 10 team group and play 9 chance nference games
No, OOC killer.
RE: If We Only Had A COG! - Usajags - 11-26-2016 10:41 PM
The only way this is really going to work for us is to go to 12. Bit that bullet now, get used to the idea of two more teams and make it happen. I'm still not sure the Big 12 is completely out of the expansion business. PAC 12 needs 2 more teams too, so who knows what will happen by 2018.
RE: If We Only Had A COG! - OsageJ - 11-26-2016 10:44 PM
(11-26-2016 10:41 PM)Usajags Wrote: The only way this is really going to work for us is to go to 12. Bit that bullet now, get used to the idea of two more teams and make it happen. I'm still not sure the Big 12 is completely out of the expansion business. PAC 12 needs 2 more teams too, so who knows what will happen by 2018.
PAC 12 has 12 teams.
RE: If We Only Had A COG! - Usajags - 11-26-2016 11:42 PM
(11-26-2016 10:44 PM)OsageJ Wrote:(11-26-2016 10:41 PM)Usajags Wrote: The only way this is really going to work for us is to go to 12. Bit that bullet now, get used to the idea of two more teams and make it happen. I'm still not sure the Big 12 is completely out of the expansion business. PAC 12 needs 2 more teams too, so who knows what will happen by 2018.
PAC 12 has 12 teams.
The ACC, B1G, SEC and even C-USA have 14 with rumors of going to 16. Conference realignment is not over.
RE: If We Only Had A COG! - AppManDG - 11-27-2016 07:47 AM
(11-26-2016 10:39 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:(11-26-2016 09:44 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote: I would prefer 1 10 team group and play 9 chance nference games
No, OOC killer.
No offense intended to Coastal, but imo the conference got caught up in COG fever and jumped the gun by going to 10 teams. The whole travel partner for App was a big selling point, but the issue is everyone else's travel partner is around 3 hours away while Conway is over 5 hours from Boone. The idea of flying into Myrtle Beach then busing to Boone, or flying to Greensboro then busing to Boone just doesn't seem very cost effective. The conference should have stuck to 9 football programs and added a non-football program like UNC Greensboro (2 hrs from Boone) which would have given App a real travel partner. Football could have played a round robbin schedule and maintained the 4 OOC games.
RE: If We Only Had A COG! - Saint3333 - 11-27-2016 07:57 AM
I agree 9 for football works best, but for all sports CCU was a no brainer. They will be in the top half if not top fourth of pretty much all Olympic sports.
We really can't complain too much as App was likely the largest driving force for adding CCU.
UNCG, no thanks.
RE: If We Only Had A COG! - Pounce FTW - 11-27-2016 09:18 AM
The chance of a rematch is there in pretty much every sporting system that uses a group stage followed by an elimination stage, from football CCGs to the NFL to the Olympic hockey tournament. Even if it's a rematch, a CCG gives us a chance to have a definitive champion. We all like for it to be settled on the field, and for whatever reason, a playoff makes it feel more settled. Occasionally stuff happens like the Giants beating the undefeated Patriots in a rematch. It's just part of the game.
RE: If We Only Had A COG! - AppManDG - 11-27-2016 09:25 AM
(11-27-2016 07:57 AM)Saint3333 Wrote: I agree 9 for football works best, but for all sports CCU was a no brainer. They will be in the top half if not top fourth of pretty much all Olympic sports.
We really can't complain too much as App was likely the largest driving force for adding CCU.
UNCG, no thanks.
Andy, you gotta get past that SoCon prejudice and consider what's best for App. Name another non-football school within 3 hours of Boone that's a better choice. Don't think we were a driving force behind their admission.
RE: If We Only Had A COG! - Michael in Raleigh - 11-27-2016 10:05 AM
(11-27-2016 09:25 AM)AppManDG Wrote:(11-27-2016 07:57 AM)Saint3333 Wrote: I agree 9 for football works best, but for all sports CCU was a no brainer. They will be in the top half if not top fourth of pretty much all Olympic sports.
We really can't complain too much as App was likely the largest driving force for adding CCU.
UNCG, no thanks.
Andy, you gotta get past that SoCon prejudice and consider what's best for App. Name another non-football school within 3 hours of Boone that's a better choice. Don't think we were a driving force behind their admission.
Davidson. They're easily the best non-football school within maybe a six- or seven-hour radius of Boone.
Of course, you meant a school the SBC could actually get. No way they'd leave for any league other than the Big East.
I'd put UNCW as a more attractive non-football school than UNCG, but they're farther than the 3-hour radius, too. Besides, I'm doubtful UNCG would have interest in the SBC over staying in the SoCon or holding out for the Colonial.
All in all, there is no reversing decisions already made, and I'm personally very happy Coastal Carolina was chosen over EKU, Liberty, or the hypothetical UNCG or UNCW (who also wouldn't likely leave the Colonial for the SBC, anyway). Coastal is pretty darn far for a "travel partner," and that's a fair point. They're not much closer, if at all, than Georgia State is. But they are excellent from an all-around athletics standpoint, and they help meet the interests of the conference as a whole much better than any of the non-football options closer to Boone.
Really the only thing that would make sense would be for geographic realignment between the Sun Belt and C-USA. After three years, it's still ridiculous to me, with nothing at all against the fine programs in the western part of our league, that we are in a conference with Texas and Louisiana schools but not Charlotte, ODU, and Marshall, while those schools share a conference with UTEP and three other Texas schools. But that is another topic altogether.