(08-09-2016 12:36 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  I don't think post season selection committees will agree unless several of these teams have much better than expected seasons.

The stock line will be... who have they played? Top 100, Top 50 etc. There are too many fish in the sea to not play some powerhouse programs.

This may be the only time ever JMU will have a team with 7 seniors.

(08-09-2016 01:53 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Even if you feel there is no chance for an at large before the season has started, there is no excuse for not challenging a veteran team against the best.

If nothing else, it sheds light on some weaknesses that need improvement before the all important conference tournament and postseason.

Also, I'm not ready to dismiss the team's chances for a great season without seeing Johnson and Holmes on the court first. We know how many seniors are returning. We have a very good idea that Snowden will have a big impact as he has already produced in D1 basketball.
Can Johnson and Holmes replace Curry? TBD, and that determines if the team elevates to the next level after winning 40 games over the past 2 years.

If you can't challenge a senior stocked squad, who can you challenge?

Opportunity lost.

(08-09-2016 07:08 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  You know better Dawg.
Prominent programs offer payout guarantee games to get most if not all of their OOC games at home.
Scared of JMU? Laughable.

Somehow every other CAA team was able to schedule at least one ACC, SEC, Big 10, or Big East team. JMU did not.

This doesn't even address the financial angle. JMU is trying to fund a new convo and these guarantee games can be worth over $100,000 a pop. It would absolutely help an athletic department that indicates they don't have enough money. This doesn't even address the National University model that Jon Boy Alger spews out.
We should expect more especially after coach Rowe said he is willing to play anyone, anywhere.

(08-09-2016 07:08 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  You know better Dawg.
Prominent programs offer payout guarantee games to get most if not all of their OOC games at home.
Scared of JMU? Laughable.

Somehow every other CAA team was able to schedule at least one ACC, SEC, Big 10, or Big East team. JMU did not.

This doesn't even address the financial angle. JMU is trying to fund a new convo and these guarantee games can be worth over $100,000 a pop. It would absolutely help an athletic department that indicates they don't have enough money. This doesn't even address the National University model that Jon Boy Alger spews out.
We should expect more especially after coach Rowe said he is willing to play anyone, anywhere.

(08-10-2016 06:52 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  I agree- it's disappointing. The saving grace is the regional games (the addition of ODU and to a lesser degree App State and Charlotte) and the fact that they have home games but it's not a good schedule and JMU could have and should have done better.

Brady delegated to O Driscoll every time I asked about the schedule and Rowe the same to Deane. I guess it is common for an assistant to handle the schedule but I'm sure the head coach has input. When Rowe said that they would go anywhere and play anyone I got excited. That's what I would like all JMU programs to do. Seems like it would have made sense with a veteran team when he's trying to change the culture to do that in year 1. I'm surprised with all the recruiting that they are doing in Florida that they couldn't land a game or two at Miami or Florida State or Florida, etc. I'd much rather squeeze 2 of those games in than a trip to Montana State and they would have an opportunity to showcase their style of play in front of some local recruits. Maybe I'm missing something as a fan but it's a missed opportunity.

I hate to blame Deane 100%- but I was not a fan of retaining him from the prior staff. He's very blunt/matter of fact about the Dukes. IMO he's been around too long and I question his energy. We need new coaches with a different perspective about JMU- coaches that think the sky is the limit and maybe haven't been around long enough to be satisfied with just being a mid major in a one bid league.
Deane doesn't fit with the rest of the staff. I sure hope that he wasn't forced on the staff and I hope he retires very soon. If his contacts in the game can't yield a quality P5 opponent or 2 on the schedule I'd rather have someone else in charge of it.

I realize if I was in the administration and wrote the above paragraph in an email I would be in trouble for age discrimination. I'm just calling it like I see and hear it as a fan. I'm sorry with all due respect I don't like Deane on this staff and his role with the schedule. The OOC schedule is extremely important to getting JMU to where they need to be and that's not 20 wins and a lower tier post season tournament. I wouldn't think that Bourne based on his comments when changing coaches is a fan of the 1st years schedule.

(08-10-2016 08:13 AM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  

(08-10-2016 06:52 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  I agree- it's disappointing. The saving grace is the regional games (the addition of ODU and to a lesser degree App State and Charlotte) and the fact that they have home games but it's not a good schedule and JMU could have and should have done better.

Brady delegated to O Driscoll every time I asked about the schedule and Rowe the same to Deane. I guess it is common for an assistant to handle the schedule but I'm sure the head coach has input. When Rowe said that they would go anywhere and play anyone I got excited. That's what I would like all JMU programs to do. Seems like it would have made sense with a veteran team when he's trying to change the culture to do that in year 1. I'm surprised with all the recruiting that they are doing in Florida that they couldn't land a game or two at Miami or Florida State or Florida, etc. I'd much rather squeeze 2 of those games in than a trip to Montana State and they would have an opportunity to showcase their style of play in front of some local recruits. Maybe I'm missing something as a fan but it's a missed opportunity.

I hate to blame Deane 100%- but I was not a fan of retaining him from the prior staff. He's very blunt/matter of fact about the Dukes. IMO he's been around too long and I question his energy. We need new coaches with a different perspective about JMU- coaches that think the sky is the limit and maybe haven't been around long enough to be satisfied with just being a mid major in a one bid league.
Deane doesn't fit with the rest of the staff. I sure hope that he wasn't forced on the staff and I hope he retires very soon. If his contacts in the game can't yield a quality P5 opponent or 2 on the schedule I'd rather have someone else in charge of it.

I realize if I was in the administration and wrote the above paragraph in an email I would be in trouble for age discrimination. I'm just calling it like I see and hear it as a fan. I'm sorry with all due respect I don't like Deane on this staff and his role with the schedule. The OOC schedule is extremely important to getting JMU to where they need to be and that's not 20 wins and a lower tier post season tournament. I wouldn't think that Bourne based on his comments when changing coaches is a fan of the 1st years schedule.

I have never disagreed with a post so much as this one! Lou Rowe retaining Mike Deane was a great move. With Mike at his side Lou has a person who has forgotten more basketball than most will ever know. Mike is great for that staff and a great Ambassador for JMU Basketball. I think you are way off on your assessment.

(08-10-2016 06:52 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  I agree- it's disappointing. The saving grace is the regional games (the addition of ODU and to a lesser degree App State and Charlotte) and the fact that they have home games but it's not a good schedule and JMU could have and should have done better.

Brady delegated to O Driscoll every time I asked about the schedule and Rowe the same to Deane. I guess it is common for an assistant to handle the schedule but I'm sure the head coach has input. When Rowe said that they would go anywhere and play anyone I got excited. That's what I would like all JMU programs to do. Seems like it would have made sense with a veteran team when he's trying to change the culture to do that in year 1. I'm surprised with all the recruiting that they are doing in Florida that they couldn't land a game or two at Miami or Florida State or Florida, etc. I'd much rather squeeze 2 of those games in than a trip to Montana State and they would have an opportunity to showcase their style of play in front of some local recruits. Maybe I'm missing something as a fan but it's a missed opportunity.

I hate to blame Deane 100%- but I was not a fan of retaining him from the prior staff. He's very blunt/matter of fact about the Dukes. IMO he's been around too long and I question his energy. We need new coaches with a different perspective about JMU- coaches that think the sky is the limit and maybe haven't been around long enough to be satisfied with just being a mid major in a one bid league.
Deane doesn't fit with the rest of the staff. I sure hope that he wasn't forced on the staff and I hope he retires very soon. If his contacts in the game can't yield a quality P5 opponent or 2 on the schedule I'd rather have someone else in charge of it.

I realize if I was in the administration and wrote the above paragraph in an email I would be in trouble for age discrimination. I'm just calling it like I see and hear it as a fan. I'm sorry with all due respect I don't like Deane on this staff and his role with the schedule. The OOC schedule is extremely important to getting JMU to where they need to be and that's not 20 wins and a lower tier post season tournament. I wouldn't think that Bourne based on his comments when changing coaches is a fan of the 1st years schedule.