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RE: Men's Basketball Recruiting: 2018 - Gilesfan - 09-26-2017 04:15 PM
How are we supposed to compete with Louisville when recruits get 100k and strippers?
RE: Men's Basketball Recruiting: 2018 - Gilesfan - 09-26-2017 04:27 PM
And lets not forget Keats is a former Louisville coach and is currently at an Addidas school. BTW, he refused to respond to questions today.
I would keep an eye out on NC State. They may need to join UNC, Miami, Louisville, etc. in some sanctions. (Louisville and every coach involved should get death penalty)
RE: Men's Basketball Recruiting: 2018 - Mr.BigBlue - 09-26-2017 04:33 PM
The NCAA didn't make an example of UNC...why would anyone think they would hold these schools accountable? These asst. coaches will be held accountable but these P5 schools are out of control. The NCAA is scared to do anything because of the $.
RE: Men's Basketball Recruiting: 2018 - Gilesfan - 09-26-2017 04:34 PM
(09-26-2017 04:33 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: The NCAA didn't make an example of UNC...why would anyone think they would hold these schools accountable? These asst. coaches will be held accountable but these P5 schools are out of control. The NCAA is scared to do anything because of the $.
The FBI being involved changes things. You aren't talking about academic misconduct, but criminal misconduct and investigations will be detailed and public.
RE: Men's Basketball Recruiting: 2018 - Mr.BigBlue - 09-26-2017 04:37 PM
(09-26-2017 04:34 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:(09-26-2017 04:33 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: The NCAA didn't make an example of UNC...why would anyone think they would hold these schools accountable? These asst. coaches will be held accountable but these P5 schools are out of control. The NCAA is scared to do anything because of the $.
The FBI being involved changes things.
Only for the criminal charges involving the asst. The NCAA would handle anything from an accountability / academic control perspective.
RE: Men's Basketball Recruiting: 2018 - Gilesfan - 09-26-2017 04:39 PM
You can bet heads will role. There is going to be a huge announcement tomorrow; possibly Petino being gone.
RE: Men's Basketball Recruiting: 2018 - ODUCoach - 09-26-2017 04:44 PM
I'm interested in the Miami angle, too. Wonder if our old friend, Larranaga, will face any heat.
RE: Men's Basketball Recruiting: 2018 - Gilesfan - 09-26-2017 04:53 PM
There is some talk Indiana or Kansas may be involved as well.
RE: Men's Basketball Recruiting: 2018 - Monarchist13 - 09-26-2017 05:08 PM
Sources: Basketball agency ASM Sports was raided today. FBI had warrant, took Andy Miller's computer.
https://twitter.com/DarrenHeitner/status/912799900483637248
RE: Men's Basketball Recruiting: 2018 - monarx - 09-26-2017 05:26 PM
The schools and the NCAA make sure the head coaches are so far removed from all of the cheating so they can claim plausible deniability. My guess is a few assistants get fired and maybe some recruiting sanctions or something. They may also try to give someone like Charleston Southern or Alabama State the death penalty for tweeting at a recruit so they can say they get tough with schools who break the rules too.
RE: Men's Basketball Recruiting: 2018 - Gilesfan - 09-26-2017 06:25 PM
(09-26-2017 05:26 PM)monarx Wrote: The schools and the NCAA make sure the head coaches are so far removed from all of the cheating so they can claim plausible deniability. My guess is a few assistants get fired and maybe some recruiting sanctions or something. They may also try to give someone like Charleston Southern or Alabama State the death penalty for tweeting at a recruit so they can say they get tough with schools who break the rules too.
Not necessarily. A head coach just got fired for ordering escorts from his University issued phone.
RE: Men's Basketball Recruiting: 2018 - Gilesfan - 09-26-2017 06:32 PM
(09-26-2017 05:08 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote: Sources: Basketball agency ASM Sports was raided today. FBI had warrant, took Andy Miller's computer.
https://twitter.com/DarrenHeitner/status/912799900483637248
This is just the start. Heads are going to roll.
RE: Men's Basketball Recruiting: 2018 - Monarchist13 - 09-26-2017 06:55 PM
Oh yeah. This is going to be real messy.
RE: Men's Basketball Recruiting: 2018 - Gilesfan - 09-26-2017 07:06 PM
If you have Miami paying a half decent recruit 150k, i mean.....come on.
Its not going to be hard to do math when you know how schools did it.
There is now a tip line and some guilty parties gonna squeel.
RE: Men's Basketball Recruiting: 2018 - monarx - 09-26-2017 08:06 PM
Been going on for decades, though not to this degree. I personally know people who were paid as athletes at Bolling Green and Marshall in the late 80s. But we are talking 4 figures, not 6.
RE: Men's Basketball Recruiting: 2018 - Gilesfan - 09-26-2017 08:15 PM
(09-26-2017 08:06 PM)monarx Wrote: Been going on for decades, though not to this degree. I personally know people who were paid as athletes at Bolling Green and Marshall in the late 80s. But we are talking 4 figures, not 6.
Absolutely. “Hokie handshakes.” But it has gotten out of control and *may have really amped up when adidas started going after Nike schools. AAU prolly needs some blame.
RE: Men's Basketball Recruiting: 2018 - Monarchist13 - 09-26-2017 08:19 PM
(09-26-2017 08:15 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:(09-26-2017 08:06 PM)monarx Wrote: Been going on for decades, though not to this degree. I personally know people who were paid as athletes at Bolling Green and Marshall in the late 80s. But we are talking 4 figures, not 6.
Absolutely. “Hokie handshakes.” But it has gotten out of control and *may have really amped up when adidas started going after Nike schools. AAU prolly needs some blame.
The shoe companies are funding AAU. It all comes back to the shoes and the fight to have the right players wearing their brand once they get to the league.
RE: Men's Basketball Recruiting: 2018 - Monarchblue - 09-26-2017 08:39 PM
(09-26-2017 04:34 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:The FBI, unfortunately, said something to the effect that the schools look like victims in this process. That's all the cover they need. There will be little or no action from the impotent NCAA.(09-26-2017 04:33 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: The NCAA didn't make an example of UNC...why would anyone think they would hold these schools accountable? These asst. coaches will be held accountable but these P5 schools are out of control. The NCAA is scared to do anything because of the $.
The FBI being involved changes things. You aren't talking about academic misconduct, but criminal misconduct and investigations will be detailed and public.
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RE: Men's Basketball Recruiting: 2018 - Gilesfan - 09-27-2017 07:07 AM
I would be shocked if there arent major sanctions. “Failure to monitor”. NCAAs hands are going to be tied.
RE: Men's Basketball Recruiting: 2018 - ODU BBALL - 09-27-2017 07:52 AM
Someone has opened an aptly titled thread this morning to discuss these NCAA recruiting wrong doings.