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IRS defends paying refunds to illegals who never filed taxes - EagleRockCafe - 03-03-2015 04:32 PM

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Non citizens who haven't even paid income taxes, get refunds....Only in Obama's America.

Quote:The IRS is defending its decision to let illegal immigrants claim up to three years’ refunds on income even if they never paid income taxes, telling Congress in a new letter last week that agency lawyers have concluded getting a Social Security number triggers the ability to go back and ask for previous refunds.

President Obama’s new deportation amnesty could grant Social Security numbers to as many as 4 million illegal immigrants, making many of them eligible for tax refunds under the Earned Income Tax Credit even for years when they cheated on their taxes, by working off the books and not filing tax returns.

“Section 32 of the Internal Revenue Code requires an SSN on the return, but a taxpayer claiming the EITC is not required to have an SSN before the close of the year for which the EITC is claimed,” IRS Commissioner John Koskinen wrote in his letter to Sen. Charles E. Grassley on Wednesday.

The IRS’s chief lawyer had reached that conclusion in 2000, and the agency has newly confirmed it, Mr. Koskinen said.

Mr. Grassley called that a mockery of the law and said he will try to write a bill specifically prohibiting it.

“The tax code shouldn’t reward those who broke our immigration laws,” the Iowa Republican and chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee said in a statement.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/2/irs-defends-refunds-illegals-never-filed-taxes/


RE: IRS defends paying refunds to illegals who never filed taxes - VA49er - 03-03-2015 04:34 PM

Just another way the govt wastes money.


RE: IRS defends paying refunds to illegals who never filed taxes - Crebman - 03-03-2015 04:37 PM

(03-03-2015 04:34 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Just another way the govt wastes money.

Just another way for Obama and the Democrats, by extension, to buy votes for 2016. I mean, what illegal in their right mind wouldn't vote for the group giving them candy and flowers?

Oh yeah - armed with Drivers Licenses and SS numbers, they will be voting - bank on it. They deserve their representation!!


RE: IRS defends paying refunds to illegals who never filed taxes - ECUGrad07 - 03-03-2015 04:38 PM

(03-03-2015 04:37 PM)Crebman Wrote:  
(03-03-2015 04:34 PM)VA49er Wrote:  Just another way the govt wastes money.

Just another way for Obama and the Democrats, by extension, to buy votes for 2016. I mean, what illegal in their right mind wouldn't vote for the group giving them candy and flowers?

Oh yeah - armed with Drivers Licenses and SS numbers, they will be voting - bank on it. They deserve their representation!!

They are "Americans in Waiting" after all. 03-banghead


RE: IRS defends paying refunds to illegals who never filed taxes - SuperFlyBCat - 03-03-2015 04:38 PM

You really can't defend it. Awful


RE: IRS defends paying refunds to illegals who never filed taxes - Redwingtom - 03-03-2015 05:43 PM

Pop quiz: How does an illegal alien work off the books?


Re: RE: IRS defends paying refunds to illegals who never filed taxes - blunderbuss - 03-03-2015 06:05 PM

(03-03-2015 05:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Pop quiz: How does an illegal alien work off the books?

A scumbag hires him.

Your turn. How is an illegal who didn't pay taxes entitled to a return?


RE: IRS defends paying refunds to illegals who never filed taxes - usmbacker - 03-03-2015 06:37 PM

When you strip all the layers away, it is just another Chicago political machine graduate buying votes.


RE: IRS defends paying refunds to illegals who never filed taxes - UConn-SMU - 03-03-2015 07:30 PM

Americans are the most generous and naive people on the planet.

What other country would do this?


RE: IRS defends paying refunds to illegals who never filed taxes - JMUDunk - 03-03-2015 07:54 PM

(03-03-2015 07:30 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  Americans are the most generous and naive people on the planet.

What other country would do this?

What other country would allow the illegal invaders in the first place?


RE: IRS defends paying refunds to illegals who never filed taxes - maximus - 03-03-2015 07:59 PM

(03-03-2015 06:05 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(03-03-2015 05:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Pop quiz: How does an illegal alien work off the books?

A scumbag hires him.

Your turn. How is an illegal who didn't pay taxes entitled to a return?
**** you **** you **** you

Who next


RE: IRS defends paying refunds to illegals who never filed taxes - THE NC Herd Fan - 03-03-2015 09:54 PM

In Amerika you can pay no taxes and file no returns for three years, then file for refunds for three years of income you can prove you made much less paid taxes on.....

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RE: IRS defends paying refunds to illegals who never filed taxes - Fo Shizzle - 03-04-2015 06:51 AM

(03-03-2015 05:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Pop quiz: How does an illegal alien work off the books?

Cash only. Ever seen them use a Debit card at Walmart?


RE: IRS defends paying refunds to illegals who never filed taxes - blunderbuss - 03-04-2015 07:27 AM

(03-03-2015 06:05 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(03-03-2015 05:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Pop quiz: How does an illegal alien work off the books?

A scumbag hires him.

Your turn. How is an illegal who didn't pay taxes entitled to a return?

Still waiting Tom....


RE: IRS defends paying refunds to illegals who never filed taxes - VA49er - 03-04-2015 09:10 AM

(03-03-2015 05:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Pop quiz: How does an illegal alien work off the books?

You are assuming they all are working.


RE: IRS defends paying refunds to illegals who never filed taxes - Redwingtom - 03-04-2015 10:09 AM

(03-04-2015 07:27 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(03-03-2015 06:05 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(03-03-2015 05:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Pop quiz: How does an illegal alien work off the books?

A scumbag hires him.

Your turn. How is an illegal who didn't pay taxes entitled to a return?

Still waiting Tom....

Excuse me dude, but I don't read this site much at all when I'm not at work.

But I am curious to know that you mean by "entitled to a return"?

I assume you mean entitled to a refund. And that's a simple answer, it's the law.

The Earned Income Credit allows some individuals to get a refund even when they didn't pay any taxes. That's the law. And this particular law was even enacted by Ford and expanded under Reagan.

They need to have Social Security Numbers to get these refunds...so this is just a necessary evil under Obama's action because that's the law. Was it intentional...to buy votes? It would be a pretty lame way to go about if you ask me. Spending loads of political capital in the off chance that many illegals will come forward and out themselves and then lie about their citizenship and vote in enough numbers to sway the electoral college. To me, a bridge WAY to far.

When they get a SSN, the have to register. So they make themselves known to our government. Now we can track them.

But bottom line: No illegal should be working in America anyway! But we refuse to go after the employers who keep hiring them without green cards, SSN's and proof of citizenship.


RE: IRS defends paying refunds to illegals who never filed taxes - Redwingtom - 03-04-2015 10:11 AM

(03-04-2015 09:10 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(03-03-2015 05:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Pop quiz: How does an illegal alien work off the books?

You are assuming they all are working.

I didn't assume anything.


RE: IRS defends paying refunds to illegals who never filed taxes - Redwingtom - 03-04-2015 10:11 AM

(03-04-2015 06:51 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(03-03-2015 05:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Pop quiz: How does an illegal alien work off the books?

Cash only. Ever seen them use a Debit card at Walmart?

No. What's an illegal look like?


RE: IRS defends paying refunds to illegals who never filed taxes - Kaplony - 03-04-2015 10:15 AM

(03-04-2015 10:11 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-04-2015 06:51 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(03-03-2015 05:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Pop quiz: How does an illegal alien work off the books?

Cash only. Ever seen them use a Debit card at Walmart?

No. What's an illegal look like?

I would post a picture but some oversensitive leftist would probably get offended and report it.


RE: IRS defends paying refunds to illegals who never filed taxes - Redwingtom - 03-04-2015 10:17 AM

(03-04-2015 10:15 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(03-04-2015 10:11 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(03-04-2015 06:51 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(03-03-2015 05:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Pop quiz: How does an illegal alien work off the books?

Cash only. Ever seen them use a Debit card at Walmart?

No. What's an illegal look like?

I would post a picture but some oversensitive leftist would probably get offended and report it.

Really...you have the power to look at someone and tell if they are an illegal? You should apply at ICE.