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87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - smn1256 - 12-30-2014 05:25 PM

I'm in the 13%. A medication that once cost me $9 for a 90 day supply now costs me $400 per month. I had to drop it and there are no alternatives. A doctor visit used to cost me $5. Now it costs me $100. I had a quad bypass in 2001 and it cost me $100 TOTAL out of pocket. A stress test a month ago cost me $800. On 1/7/2015 I go in for a possible stent, maybe another bypass. My wife and I are sshitting bricks over the possible cost. During a recent conference call with my company and United Health Care, many of us questioned the HUGE increases in 2015 and UHC started every answer with "Changes required by the affordable healthcare act." They pretty much said the law is driving up costs and there is no end in sight.

To add insult to injury, both my primary and cardiologist won't take Obamacare policies because they say the out of pocket costs are too high for most people and they don't return for follow up care. So if people aren't going to the doctor or getting follow up care, then where are their premiums going? To the evil insurance companies, that's where. Obama is making every living thing in this country pay the insurance companies he wanted you to hate cold hard cash.

Quote:87 percent of people who selected 2015 plans through HealthCare.gov in first month of open enrollment are getting financial assistance to lower monthly premiums

A report released by the Department of Health and Human Services today provides the first detailed analysis of enrollment in the Marketplaces for the first month of the 2015 open enrollment period. About 87 percent of people who selected health insurance plans through HealthCare.gov for coverage beginning Jan. 1, 2015 were determined eligible for financial assistance to lower their monthly premiums, compared to 80 percent of enrollees who selected plans over a similar period last year. In addition, more than 4 million people in both the state and federal Marketplaces signed up for the first time or reenrolled in coverage for 2015 during the first month of open enrollment. That includes more than 3.4 million people who selected a plan in the 37 states that are using the HealthCare.gov platform for 2015, and more than 600,000 consumers who selected plans in the 14 states that are operating their own Marketplace platform for 2015.

Today’s report includes data through December 15 for the 37 states using the HealthCare.gov platform, and through December 13 for 12 states and the District of Columbia that are using their own Marketplace platforms. Data for California are through December 14. Data for automatic reenrollments are not yet available in the vast majority of states, so today’s report does not fully capture the number of people who selected plans leading up to the deadline for Jan. 1, 2015 coverage. In particular, the automatic reenrollment process for the 37 states using the HealthCare.gov platform began on December 16 and was completed for the vast majority of consumers on December 18.

HHS also released a Weekly Enrollment Snapshot that captures more recent enrollment activity in the 37 states using the HealthCare.gov platform. The Weekly Snapshot shows that from November 15 to December 26, nearly 6.5 million consumers selected a plan or were automatically reenrolled.

“We’re pleased that nationwide, millions of people signed up for Marketplace coverage starting January 1. The vast majority were able to lower their costs even further by getting tax credits, making a difference in the bottom lines of so many families,” HHS Secretary Sylvia M. Burwell said. “Interest in the Marketplace has been strong during the first month of open enrollment. We still have a ways to go and a lot of work to do before February 15, but this is an encouraging start.”

Detailed findings for HealthCare.gov states through December 15:

More than 3.4 million people selected a plan through December 15 in the 37 states that are using the HealthCare.gov platform for 2015, including Oregon and Nevada. Of those:
•87 percent selected a plan with financial assistance compared to 80 percent in the early months of the first open enrollment period.
•33 percent were under 35 years of age compared to 29 percent in the early months of the first open enrollment period.
•Nearly 1 million consumers selected a plan in the three days leading up to December 15. That is almost one third (28 percent) of total plan selections from November 15 through December 15.
•Of the 3.4 million plan selections, 48 percent (1.6 million) reenrolled in a Marketplace plan and 52 percent (1.8 million) signed up for the first time.

The most recent Weekly Enrollment Snapshot with data available through December 26 can be found here.

Detailed findings for the 14 states using state based Marketplace enrollment platforms:

More than 600,000 consumers selected plans in the 14 states that are operating their own Marketplace platform for 2015. That includes:
•161,752 Marketplace plan selections in two states reporting only data for new consumers (California and New York);
•153,011 Marketplace plan selections in seven states reporting data on new consumers and consumers actively reenrolling in Marketplace coverage (Colorado, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, and Rhode Island); and
•318,075 Marketplace plan selections in five states reporting data on new enrollees, consumers actively reenrolling in Marketplace coverage, and automatic reenrollees (Connecticut, Idaho, Kentucky, Vermont, and Washington).

The information contained in this report provides the most systematic summary of enrollment-related activity in the Marketplaces to date. Data for the various metrics are counted using comparable definitions for data elements across states and Marketplace types. But because many states extended their plan selection deadlines for January 1 coverage, the report does not include the full count of consumers who will have selected coverage that begins Jan. 1, 2015.

Open Enrollment in the Marketplace runs from Nov. 15, 2014, through Feb. 15, 2015. Consumers should visit HealthCare.gov to review and compare health plan options. Consumers shopping for health insurance coverage should sign up by Jan. 15, 2015, in order to have coverage effective on Feb. 1, 2015. If consumers who were automatically reenrolled decide in the coming weeks that a better plan exists for their families, they can make that change at any time before the end of open enrollment on February 15.

Consumers can find local help at: Localhelp.healthcare.gov/. Or call the Federally-facilitated Marketplace Call Center at 1-800-318-2596. TTY users should call 1-855- 889-4325. Translation services are available. The call is free.

To read the monthly enrollment report visit: http://aspe.hhs.gov/health/reports/2014/MarketPlaceEnrollment/Dec2014/ib_2014Dec_enrollment.pdf

http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/2014pres/12/20141230a.html



RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - UofMstateU - 12-30-2014 05:38 PM

But you get a free pap smear!!!!!!!


RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - blah - 12-30-2014 05:58 PM

And birth control....

P.S. Why didn't you have your procedure done in 2014? Rookie mistake....


RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - UConn-SMU - 12-30-2014 06:23 PM

It doesn't quite apply here, but this reminds me of what writer PJ O'Rourke said before socialized medicine:

"You think health care is expensive now, wait until it's free".


RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - Fitbud - 12-30-2014 06:27 PM

I'm sorry that you are in the 13%. Obamacare never intended to help everyone.


RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - Owl 69/70/75 - 12-30-2014 06:34 PM

(12-30-2014 06:27 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I'm sorry that you are in the 13%. Obamacare never intended to help everyone.

But Obamacare can't help anyone without hurting somebody else.

It's a zero-sum game, until supply starts declining, at which point it becomes a negative-sum game.


RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - UConn-SMU - 12-30-2014 07:18 PM

(12-30-2014 06:34 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 06:27 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I'm sorry that you are in the 13%. Obamacare never intended to help everyone.

But Obamacare can't help anyone without hurting somebody else.

It's a zero-sum game, until supply starts declining, at which point it becomes a negative-sum game.

That's what income redistribution is all about.

That's all that Obamacare is: income redistribution. The goal never was to improve health care.


Re: RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - Fitbud - 12-30-2014 07:24 PM

(12-30-2014 06:34 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  [quote='Fitbud' pid='11603118' dateline='1419982054']
I'm sorry that you are in the 13%. Obamacare never intended to help everyone.

But Obamacare can't help anyone without hurting somebody else.

It's a zero-sum game, until supply starts declining, at which point it becomes a negative-sum game.

It's not a perfect system.


RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - Owl 69/70/75 - 12-30-2014 07:29 PM

(12-30-2014 07:24 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  It's not a perfect system.

Systems that suck are not generally regarded as perfect systems.


RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - Fitbud - 12-30-2014 07:58 PM

It was an attempt to make health care more widely available. It accomplished that.


RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - Owl 69/70/75 - 12-30-2014 08:07 PM

(12-30-2014 07:58 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  It was an attempt to make health care more widely available. It accomplished that.

No it wasn't and no it didn't. It's an income redistribution scheme that made winners and losers with no net gain.
It was a program to make health INSURANCE more widely available. Health INSURANCE is not health CARE.
In the end it will most likely make health CARE either less available or of lower quality. CBO says that.


RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - Crebman - 12-30-2014 08:45 PM

.....and what we knew all along was going to happen - screw the paying customers by making them pay for not only their health insurance, but also fund the non- payers. That was the plan all along and the numbers are bearing it out. What a surprise!

Income redistribution disguised as healthcare.........and the "free crowd" is loving it.


RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - smn1256 - 12-30-2014 09:12 PM

(12-30-2014 05:58 PM)blah Wrote:  And birth control....

P.S. Why didn't you have your procedure done in 2014? Rookie mistake....

Saw the doc in mid October, but a shortage of something or another had me wait until January.


RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - UConn-SMU - 12-30-2014 09:13 PM

(12-30-2014 08:45 PM)Crebman Wrote:  .....and what we knew all along was going to happen - screw the paying customers by making them pay for not only their health insurance, but also fund the non- payers. That was the plan all along and the numbers are bearing it out. What a surprise!

Income redistribution disguised as healthcare.........and the "free crowd" is loving it.

The "free crowd" elected Obama. They didn't get the new cars or new houses like they expected. But they got Obamacare.


RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - smn1256 - 12-30-2014 09:15 PM

(12-30-2014 09:13 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  
(12-30-2014 08:45 PM)Crebman Wrote:  .....and what we knew all along was going to happen - screw the paying customers by making them pay for not only their health insurance, but also fund the non- payers. That was the plan all along and the numbers are bearing it out. What a surprise!

Income redistribution disguised as healthcare.........and the "free crowd" is loving it.

The "free crowd" elected Obama. They didn't get the new cars or new houses like they expected. But they got Obamacare.

They may have cheap insurance policies but when the out of pocket costs are more than they can afford they'll stop seeing doctors.


RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - Fitbud - 12-30-2014 09:42 PM

I think it's going to take time for people to get used to having health insurance before they start seeing the doctor regularly. It's a learning curb.


RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - DefCONNOne - 12-30-2014 09:56 PM

(12-30-2014 09:42 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I think it's going to take time for people to get used to having health insurance before they start seeing the doctor regularly. It's a learning curb.

Are you serious?


RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - EagleRockCafe - 12-30-2014 09:59 PM

Those that are leeching off of others in Obamacare might find an end to that coming....

Supreme Court to take up Obamacare subsidies case


RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - Fo Shizzle - 12-30-2014 10:03 PM

(12-30-2014 06:27 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I'm sorry that you are in the 13%. Obamacare never intended to help everyone.

No schit Sherlock.07-coffee3


RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - Fo Shizzle - 12-30-2014 10:03 PM

(12-30-2014 09:42 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I think it's going to take time for people to get used to having health insurance before they start seeing the doctor regularly. It's a learning curb.

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