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87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - smn1256 - 12-30-2014 05:25 PM I'm in the 13%. A medication that once cost me $9 for a 90 day supply now costs me $400 per month. I had to drop it and there are no alternatives. A doctor visit used to cost me $5. Now it costs me $100. I had a quad bypass in 2001 and it cost me $100 TOTAL out of pocket. A stress test a month ago cost me $800. On 1/7/2015 I go in for a possible stent, maybe another bypass. My wife and I are sshitting bricks over the possible cost. During a recent conference call with my company and United Health Care, many of us questioned the HUGE increases in 2015 and UHC started every answer with "Changes required by the affordable healthcare act." They pretty much said the law is driving up costs and there is no end in sight. To add insult to injury, both my primary and cardiologist won't take Obamacare policies because they say the out of pocket costs are too high for most people and they don't return for follow up care. So if people aren't going to the doctor or getting follow up care, then where are their premiums going? To the evil insurance companies, that's where. Obama is making every living thing in this country pay the insurance companies he wanted you to hate cold hard cash. Quote:87 percent of people who selected 2015 plans through HealthCare.gov in first month of open enrollment are getting financial assistance to lower monthly premiums RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - UofMstateU - 12-30-2014 05:38 PM But you get a free pap smear!!!!!!! RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - blah - 12-30-2014 05:58 PM And birth control.... P.S. Why didn't you have your procedure done in 2014? Rookie mistake.... RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - UConn-SMU - 12-30-2014 06:23 PM It doesn't quite apply here, but this reminds me of what writer PJ O'Rourke said before socialized medicine: "You think health care is expensive now, wait until it's free". RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - Fitbud - 12-30-2014 06:27 PM I'm sorry that you are in the 13%. Obamacare never intended to help everyone. RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - Owl 69/70/75 - 12-30-2014 06:34 PM (12-30-2014 06:27 PM)Fitbud Wrote: I'm sorry that you are in the 13%. Obamacare never intended to help everyone. But Obamacare can't help anyone without hurting somebody else. It's a zero-sum game, until supply starts declining, at which point it becomes a negative-sum game. RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - UConn-SMU - 12-30-2014 07:18 PM (12-30-2014 06:34 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:(12-30-2014 06:27 PM)Fitbud Wrote: I'm sorry that you are in the 13%. Obamacare never intended to help everyone. That's what income redistribution is all about. That's all that Obamacare is: income redistribution. The goal never was to improve health care. Re: RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - Fitbud - 12-30-2014 07:24 PM (12-30-2014 06:34 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [quote='Fitbud' pid='11603118' dateline='1419982054'] But Obamacare can't help anyone without hurting somebody else. It's a zero-sum game, until supply starts declining, at which point it becomes a negative-sum game. It's not a perfect system. RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - Owl 69/70/75 - 12-30-2014 07:29 PM (12-30-2014 07:24 PM)Fitbud Wrote: It's not a perfect system. Systems that suck are not generally regarded as perfect systems. RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - Fitbud - 12-30-2014 07:58 PM It was an attempt to make health care more widely available. It accomplished that. RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - Owl 69/70/75 - 12-30-2014 08:07 PM (12-30-2014 07:58 PM)Fitbud Wrote: It was an attempt to make health care more widely available. It accomplished that. No it wasn't and no it didn't. It's an income redistribution scheme that made winners and losers with no net gain. It was a program to make health INSURANCE more widely available. Health INSURANCE is not health CARE. In the end it will most likely make health CARE either less available or of lower quality. CBO says that. RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - Crebman - 12-30-2014 08:45 PM .....and what we knew all along was going to happen - screw the paying customers by making them pay for not only their health insurance, but also fund the non- payers. That was the plan all along and the numbers are bearing it out. What a surprise! Income redistribution disguised as healthcare.........and the "free crowd" is loving it. RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - smn1256 - 12-30-2014 09:12 PM (12-30-2014 05:58 PM)blah Wrote: And birth control.... Saw the doc in mid October, but a shortage of something or another had me wait until January. RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - UConn-SMU - 12-30-2014 09:13 PM (12-30-2014 08:45 PM)Crebman Wrote: .....and what we knew all along was going to happen - screw the paying customers by making them pay for not only their health insurance, but also fund the non- payers. That was the plan all along and the numbers are bearing it out. What a surprise! The "free crowd" elected Obama. They didn't get the new cars or new houses like they expected. But they got Obamacare. RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - smn1256 - 12-30-2014 09:15 PM (12-30-2014 09:13 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:(12-30-2014 08:45 PM)Crebman Wrote: .....and what we knew all along was going to happen - screw the paying customers by making them pay for not only their health insurance, but also fund the non- payers. That was the plan all along and the numbers are bearing it out. What a surprise! They may have cheap insurance policies but when the out of pocket costs are more than they can afford they'll stop seeing doctors. RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - Fitbud - 12-30-2014 09:42 PM I think it's going to take time for people to get used to having health insurance before they start seeing the doctor regularly. It's a learning curb. RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - DefCONNOne - 12-30-2014 09:56 PM (12-30-2014 09:42 PM)Fitbud Wrote: I think it's going to take time for people to get used to having health insurance before they start seeing the doctor regularly. It's a learning curb. Are you serious? RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - EagleRockCafe - 12-30-2014 09:59 PM Those that are leeching off of others in Obamacare might find an end to that coming.... Supreme Court to take up Obamacare subsidies case RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - Fo Shizzle - 12-30-2014 10:03 PM (12-30-2014 06:27 PM)Fitbud Wrote: I'm sorry that you are in the 13%. Obamacare never intended to help everyone. No schit Sherlock. RE: 87% of Obamacare enrollees are leeching off the other 13% - Fo Shizzle - 12-30-2014 10:03 PM (12-30-2014 09:42 PM)Fitbud Wrote: I think it's going to take time for people to get used to having health insurance before they start seeing the doctor regularly. It's a learning curb. |