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NYC Police officer not indicted - ClairtonPanther - 12-03-2014 03:39 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/03/justice/new-york-grand-jury-chokehold/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
RE: NYC Police officer not indicted - DrTorch - 12-03-2014 03:58 PM
I thought that case was far more troubling than Ferguson.
I would like to have seen a fair trial there.
RE: NYC Police officer not indicted - EagleRockCafe - 12-03-2014 04:50 PM
Well, there was video here. I think we need to see the evidence presented to the Grand Jury. Supposedly there was no damage to the victim's larynx or breathing ability. He suffered from asthma and died of a heart attack. This one is troubling. He was selling cigarettes that had no tax paid on them. I believe a civil suit will be a win in this case.
One thing is sure though, if Mike Brown and this person had not resisted arrest, they would both be alive today.
RE: NYC Police officer not indicted - VA49er - 12-03-2014 05:07 PM
(12-03-2014 04:50 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote: Well, there was video here. I think we need to see the evidence presented to the Grand Jury. Supposedly there was no damage to the victim's larynx or breathing ability. He suffered from asthma and died of a heart attack. This one is troubling. He was selling cigarettes that had no tax paid on them. I believe a civil suit will be a win in this case.
One thing is sure though, if Mike Brown and this person had not resisted arrest, they would both be alive today.
I don't think the cops tried to kill that man.
RE: NYC Police officer not indicted - JMUDunk - 12-03-2014 05:10 PM
Let's burn this b!tch down!!!
Whoooooo's with me?!?!?!?!?!? Lesss Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RE: NYC Police officer not indicted - VA49er - 12-03-2014 05:12 PM
(12-03-2014 05:10 PM)JMUDunk Wrote: Let's burn this b!tch down!!!
Whoooooo's with me?!?!?!?!?!? Lesss Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There is a hell of a lot more free stuff in NYC than little ol' Furgeson.
RE: NYC Police officer not indicted - LSU04_08 - 12-03-2014 05:13 PM
He was selling tobacco illegally and resisted arrest. Had he OBEYED the police, he'd still be alive. Oddly, it always goes back to not being an ass hole. This, too, could have been avoided.
RE: NYC Police officer not indicted - VA49er - 12-03-2014 05:14 PM
(12-03-2014 05:13 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote: He was selling tobacco illegally and resisted arrest. Had he OBEYED the police, he'd still be alive. Oddly, it always goes back to not being an ass hole. This, too, could have been avoided.
Apparently there is big money in selling illegal tobacco in NYC. Should we blame taxes for this? I dunno?
RE: NYC Police officer not indicted - EagleRockCafe - 12-03-2014 05:17 PM
(12-03-2014 05:14 PM)VA49er Wrote:(12-03-2014 05:13 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote: He was selling tobacco illegally and resisted arrest. Had he OBEYED the police, he'd still be alive. Oddly, it always goes back to not being an ass hole. This, too, could have been avoided.
Apparently there is big money in selling illegal tobacco in NYC. Should we blame taxes for this? I dunno?
This case is far more about Big Government going after a guy selling tax free single cigarettes than anything to do with racism.
RE: NYC Police officer not indicted - LSU04_08 - 12-03-2014 05:26 PM
I can't even send my buddy a pack of smokes from here without taking the risk of getting arrested. I pay $3.50, he pays $17.50
RE: NYC Police officer not indicted - TStatebobcat - 12-03-2014 05:42 PM
(12-03-2014 05:14 PM)VA49er Wrote:(12-03-2014 05:13 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote: He was selling tobacco illegally and resisted arrest. Had he OBEYED the police, he'd still be alive. Oddly, it always goes back to not being an ass hole. This, too, could have been avoided.
Apparently there is big money in selling illegal tobacco in NYC. Should we blame taxes for this? I dunno?
Absolutely.
RE: NYC Police officer not indicted - UConn-SMU - 12-03-2014 05:47 PM
New York taxes are beyond outrageous. There's a huge black market.
This is not a racial situation. The problem is a greedy, overbearing, and aggressive government.
RE: NYC Police officer not indicted - firmbizzle - 12-03-2014 08:21 PM
(12-03-2014 05:07 PM)VA49er Wrote:(12-03-2014 04:50 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote: Well, there was video here. I think we need to see the evidence presented to the Grand Jury. Supposedly there was no damage to the victim's larynx or breathing ability. He suffered from asthma and died of a heart attack. This one is troubling. He was selling cigarettes that had no tax paid on them. I believe a civil suit will be a win in this case.
One thing is sure though, if Mike Brown and this person had not resisted arrest, they would both be alive today.
I don't think the cops tried to kill that man.
Neither do drunk drivers.
RE: NYC Police officer not indicted - firmbizzle - 12-03-2014 08:24 PM
(12-03-2014 05:13 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote: He was selling tobacco illegally and resisted arrest. Had he OBEYED the police, he'd still be alive. Oddly, it always goes back to not being an ass hole. This, too, could have been avoided.
Did you see the cop jump the guy with a choke hold from behind? Most arrests involve resistance.
RE: NYC Police officer not indicted - Fitbud - 12-03-2014 08:25 PM
How many more times?
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NYC Police officer not indicted - South Carolina Duke - 12-03-2014 10:02 PM
As many as it takes for the ignorant bastards learn to listen and obey the law and its agents.
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RE: NYC Police officer not indicted - HeartOfDixie - 12-03-2014 10:05 PM
The Brown case was in no way a crime based on the narrative given by the DA.
This one on the other hand could be.
RE: NYC Police officer not indicted - firmbizzle - 12-03-2014 10:20 PM
(12-03-2014 10:02 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote: As many as it takes for the ignorant bastards learn to listen and obey the law and its agents.
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There was really no opportunity for him to obey. The choke hold was applied and natural reaction is to not fall on the ground.
RE: NYC Police officer not indicted - supertiger - 12-03-2014 10:28 PM
If they just gave him a good tasering, they could have just avoided this whole deal.
RE: NYC Police officer not indicted - UConn-SMU - 12-03-2014 10:52 PM
(12-03-2014 08:25 PM)Fitbud Wrote: How many more times?
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This stuff will happen as long as people (of any color) attempt to attack the police, resist arrest, etc.
Some hints at survival:
1) don't commit a crime
2) if caught committing a crime, don't fight with the police
3) absolutely never reach for an officer's gun