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Stephan A. Smith on NFL fines on Michael Sam - Fitbud - 05-13-2014 10:44 AM
ESPN commentator Stephen A. Smith argued on Monday that suspending and fining NFL players over their personal opinions is a “very, very dangerous” thing. Miami Dolphins player Don Jones was fined, suspended and ordered to undergo “educational training” after he tweeted “OMG” and “Horrible” in reaction to Michael Sam kissing a man after being drafted by the St. Louis Rams over the weekend.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/05/12/popular-espn-commentator-takes-bold-stance-on-player-who-was-fined-suspended-for-negative-reaction-to-michael-sam-kiss/
RE: Stephan A. Smith on NFL fines on Michael Sam - mathenis89 - 05-13-2014 10:58 AM
Stephen Smith being an idiot.
That's new.
RE: Stephan A. Smith on NFL fines on Michael Sam - Owl 69/70/75 - 05-13-2014 11:01 AM
May be the first time I've ever agreed with Stephen A. on anything.
I think Jones was totally off the mark with his comments. But I think a fine and suspension are total overreactions. Maybe they felt a need to overreact because of what happened last year.
Again, I think Jones's comments are totally wrong and inappropriate. But this is not the proper discipline. If it were my team, I'd trade him if anybody would take him, because I don't want to be around people like that.
RE: Stephan A. Smith on NFL fines on Michael Sam - smn1256 - 05-13-2014 11:03 AM
(05-13-2014 11:01 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: May be the first time I've ever agreed with Stephen A. on anything.
I think Jones was totally off the mark with his comments. But I think a fine and suspension are total overreactions. Maybe they felt a need to overreact because of what happened last year.
Again, I think Jones's comments are totally wrong and inappropriate. But this is not the proper discipline. If it were my team, I'd trade him if anybody would take him, because I don't want to be around people like that.
What? "OMG" and "horrible" are inappropriate? Meanwhile the players call themselves the N word on the field...
RE: Stephan A. Smith on NFL fines on Michael Sam - nomad2u2001 - 05-13-2014 11:32 AM
The fine was an overreach. He didn't actually say anything bad. If he had called him a f**, threatened to paralyze him on the field, talked about how people like him didn't belong, or otherwise insulted his gayness, then yes. But saying a vague "horrible" isn't worth a fine.
RE: Stephan A. Smith on NFL fines on Michael Sam - nomad2u2001 - 05-13-2014 11:33 AM
(05-13-2014 11:01 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: May be the first time I've ever agreed with Stephen A. on anything.
I think Jones was totally off the mark with his comments. But I think a fine and suspension are total overreactions. Maybe they felt a need to overreact because of what happened last year.
Again, I think Jones's comments are totally wrong and inappropriate. But this is not the proper discipline. If it were my team, I'd trade him if anybody would take him, because I don't want to be around people like that.
I think you'd be surprised about some of Stephan A's views.
RE: Stephan A. Smith on NFL fines on Michael Sam - LSU04_08 - 05-13-2014 11:35 AM
(05-13-2014 10:58 AM)mathenis89 Wrote: Stephen Smith being an idiot.
That's new.
No, you're just a racist. Go figure.
RE: Stephan A. Smith on NFL fines on Michael Sam - mathenis89 - 05-13-2014 11:35 AM
(05-13-2014 11:35 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:(05-13-2014 10:58 AM)mathenis89 Wrote: Stephen Smith being an idiot.
That's new.
No, you're just a racist. Go figure.
Haha.
RE: Stephan A. Smith on NFL fines on Michael Sam - Owl 69/70/75 - 05-13-2014 11:36 AM
(05-13-2014 11:33 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:(05-13-2014 11:01 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: May be the first time I've ever agreed with Stephen A. on anything.
I think Jones was totally off the mark with his comments. But I think a fine and suspension are total overreactions. Maybe they felt a need to overreact because of what happened last year.
Again, I think Jones's comments are totally wrong and inappropriate. But this is not the proper discipline. If it were my team, I'd trade him if anybody would take him, because I don't want to be around people like that.
I think you'd be surprised about some of Stephan A's views.
Could be. I've heard that before about him. I haven't watched him much. His style is kind of off-putting to me.
RE: Stephan A. Smith on NFL fines on Michael Sam - LSU04_08 - 05-13-2014 11:37 AM
(05-13-2014 11:01 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: May be the first time I've ever agreed with Stephen A. on anything.
I think Jones was totally off the mark with his comments. But I think a fine and suspension are total overreactions. Maybe they felt a need to overreact because of what happened last year.
Again, I think Jones's comments are totally wrong and inappropriate. But this is not the proper discipline. If it were my team, I'd trade him if anybody would take him, because I don't want to be around people like that.
Surely you're not serious. He didn't say anything offensive about sam. I would have kept him on my team and told everyone to grow up if they felt offended by his comments. None of this was worth a fine.
RE: Stephan A. Smith on NFL fines on Michael Sam - LSU04_08 - 05-13-2014 11:38 AM
(05-13-2014 11:35 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:(05-13-2014 11:35 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:(05-13-2014 10:58 AM)mathenis89 Wrote: Stephen Smith being an idiot.
That's new.
No, you're just a racist. Go figure.
Haha.
Exactly
RE: Stephan A. Smith on NFL fines on Michael Sam - smn1256 - 05-13-2014 11:48 AM
(05-13-2014 11:32 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: If he had called him a f**, ....
In my opinion the meaning of the word "f@g" has changed over time as it no longer does it applies to gays. Instead it applies to people who are less than manly, girly men, sissies, and Obama's pajama boy.
RE: Stephan A. Smith on NFL fines on Michael Sam - DrTorch - 05-13-2014 11:52 AM
(05-13-2014 10:44 AM)Fitbud Wrote: ESPN commentator Stephen A. Smith argued on Monday that suspending and fining NFL players over their personal opinions is a “very, very dangerous” thing.
He got this 100% right.
RE: Stephan A. Smith on NFL fines on Michael Sam - EpicNiner - 05-13-2014 12:05 PM
Interesting. That wasn't his opinion on the Donald Sterling matter. So I guess his opinion is that if you say things against black people, you should be banned from the league; if you say things against homosexuals, its just free speech and there should be no repercussions.
RE: Stephan A. Smith on NFL fines on Michael Sam - VA49er - 05-13-2014 12:08 PM
(05-13-2014 12:05 PM)EpicNiner Wrote: Interesting. That wasn't his opinion on the Donald Sterling matter. So I guess his opinion is that if you say things against black people, you should be banned from the league; if you say things against homosexuals, its just free speech and there should be no repercussions.
Don't you just love hypocrites?
RE: Stephan A. Smith on NFL fines on Michael Sam - LSU04_08 - 05-13-2014 12:16 PM
(05-13-2014 12:05 PM)EpicNiner Wrote: Interesting. That wasn't his opinion on the Donald Sterling matter. So I guess his opinion is that if you say things against black people, you should be banned from the league; if you say things against homosexuals, its just free speech and there should be no repercussions.
I was thinking the same thing because of Donald Sterling, but he got his message 100% correct. I mean, Condaleeza Rice was turned down for a speech because of her politics and nothing is said. This guy says "OMG" about two dudes kissing on national television and he gets sent back to school, so to speak.
RE: Stephan A. Smith on NFL fines on Michael Sam - Tom in Lazybrook - 05-13-2014 12:22 PM
Where's all the outrage over AJ Mccarron flouting his sexual orientation just about every time the cameras are on his with his gf? He's a draftee too.
RE: Stephan A. Smith on NFL fines on Michael Sam - EverRespect - 05-13-2014 12:23 PM
(05-13-2014 12:22 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: Where's all the outrage over AJ Mccarron flouting his sexual orientation just about every time the cameras are on his with his gf? He's a draftee too.
If you want to express outrage over his behavior, you are free to.
RE: Stephan A. Smith on NFL fines on Michael Sam - EverRespect - 05-13-2014 12:26 PM
(05-13-2014 12:05 PM)EpicNiner Wrote: Interesting. That wasn't his opinion on the Donald Sterling matter. So I guess his opinion is that if you say things against black people, you should be banned from the league; if you say things against homosexuals, its just free speech and there should be no repercussions.
One is a reaction to a behavior staged for a controversial reaction (two men kissing with schit on all over their faces). The other was racism. Not even close to a comparison.
RE: Stephan A. Smith on NFL fines on Michael Sam - ericsrevenge76 - 05-13-2014 12:28 PM
(05-13-2014 12:23 PM)EverRespect Wrote:(05-13-2014 12:22 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: Where's all the outrage over AJ Mccarron flouting his sexual orientation just about every time the cameras are on his with his gf? He's a draftee too.
If you want to express outrage over his behavior, you are free to.
And I , for one, wouldn't demand his job or even an apology because of it.
That's the way it should be in America.