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Crimea 2.0: Donetsk Activists Declare Independence from Kiev - Jugnaut - 04-07-2014 06:51 AM
Link to Zerohedge Story
They seized government buildings, scheduled a referendum, and requested Russian troops come protect them as peace-keeping forces. It's all coming around again.
RE: Crimea 2.0: Donetsk Activists Declare Independence from Kiev - Machiavelli - 04-07-2014 07:17 AM
So do we send in Patton's 3rd?
Honestly what can we do about it? What are you willing to sacrifice?
RE: Crimea 2.0: Donetsk Activists Declare Independence from Kiev - Jugnaut - 04-07-2014 07:23 AM
(04-07-2014 07:17 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: So do we send in Patton's 3rd?
Honestly what can we do about it? What are you willing to sacrifice?
Personally, I'd do nothing, it's not our conflict. I wouldn't bother with sanctions. It's for Europe to handle.
RE: Crimea 2.0: Donetsk Activists Declare Independence from Kiev - Machiavelli - 04-07-2014 07:24 AM
Ok
RE: Crimea 2.0: Donetsk Activists Declare Independence from Kiev - Jerry Falwell - 04-07-2014 07:26 AM
I declare VA independent from the US and request Canadian forces to protect us. LOL
RE: Crimea 2.0: Donetsk Activists Declare Independence from Kiev - EverRespect - 04-07-2014 07:43 AM
Gog meet Magog
RE: Crimea 2.0: Donetsk Activists Declare Independence from Kiev - Machiavelli - 04-07-2014 07:46 AM
Gog meet Magog
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
said about every conflict in the last 2000 years.
RE: Crimea 2.0: Donetsk Activists Declare Independence from Kiev - HeartOfDixie - 04-07-2014 08:47 AM
Nothing may yet come of this.
RE: Crimea 2.0: Donetsk Activists Declare Independence from Kiev - Tom in Lazybrook - 04-07-2014 10:01 AM
The issue is that Donetsk might actually vote a referendum down. 60 percent of the province is Ukrainian (but Russian speaking). Crimea was 20 percent Ukrainian. Every province in Eastern Ukraine has a Ukrainian majority. And we're talking about hundreds not thousands of protesters.
We all know the way that this has to end. But so long as Merkel is appeasing, there's little the US can do.
RE: Crimea 2.0: Donetsk Activists Declare Independence from Kiev - Owl 69/70/75 - 04-07-2014 03:56 PM
(04-07-2014 10:01 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: The issue is that Donetsk might actually vote a referendum down. 60 percent of the province is Ukrainian (but Russian speaking). Crimea was 20 percent Ukrainian. Every province in Eastern Ukraine has a Ukrainian majority. And we're talking about hundreds not thousands of protesters.
We all know the way that this has to end. But so long as Merkel is appeasing, there's little the US can do.
And exactly what is the way that this has to end?
And exactly how do we all know that?
RE: Crimea 2.0: Donetsk Activists Declare Independence from Kiev - SumOfAllFears - 04-07-2014 04:48 PM
(04-07-2014 10:01 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: The issue is that Donetsk might actually vote a referendum down. 60 percent of the province is Ukrainian (but Russian speaking). Crimea was 20 percent Ukrainian. Every province in Eastern Ukraine has a Ukrainian majority. And we're talking about hundreds not thousands of protesters.
We all know the way that this has to end. But so long as Merkel is appeasing, there's little the US can do.
You do believe in Shitcago Jesus?
RE: Crimea 2.0: Donetsk Activists Declare Independence from Kiev - Tom in Lazybrook - 04-07-2014 06:17 PM
(04-07-2014 03:56 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:(04-07-2014 10:01 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: The issue is that Donetsk might actually vote a referendum down. 60 percent of the province is Ukrainian (but Russian speaking). Crimea was 20 percent Ukrainian. Every province in Eastern Ukraine has a Ukrainian majority. And we're talking about hundreds not thousands of protesters.
We all know the way that this has to end. But so long as Merkel is appeasing, there's little the US can do.
And exactly what is the way that this has to end?
And exactly how do we all know that?
The only way Putin stops is when Europe stands up to him.
RE: Crimea 2.0: Donetsk Activists Declare Independence from Kiev - Owl 69/70/75 - 04-08-2014 06:09 AM
(04-07-2014 06:17 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:(04-07-2014 03:56 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:The only way Putin stops is when Europe stands up to him.(04-07-2014 10:01 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: The issue is that Donetsk might actually vote a referendum down. 60 percent of the province is Ukrainian (but Russian speaking). Crimea was 20 percent Ukrainian. Every province in Eastern Ukraine has a Ukrainian majority. And we're talking about hundreds not thousands of protesters.And exactly what is the way that this has to end?
We all know the way that this has to end. But so long as Merkel is appeasing, there's little the US can do.
And exactly how do we all know that?
We agree there.
And Europe doesn't as long as they need his gas.
So, what does that suggest about solutions?
RE: Crimea 2.0: Donetsk Activists Declare Independence from Kiev - tigertom - 04-08-2014 07:53 AM
(04-08-2014 06:09 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:(04-07-2014 06:17 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:(04-07-2014 03:56 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:The only way Putin stops is when Europe stands up to him.(04-07-2014 10:01 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: The issue is that Donetsk might actually vote a referendum down. 60 percent of the province is Ukrainian (but Russian speaking). Crimea was 20 percent Ukrainian. Every province in Eastern Ukraine has a Ukrainian majority. And we're talking about hundreds not thousands of protesters.And exactly what is the way that this has to end?
We all know the way that this has to end. But so long as Merkel is appeasing, there's little the US can do.
And exactly how do we all know that?
We agree there.
And Europe doesn't as long as they need his gas.
If Europe doesn't wake up, they will be "taking gas"... in any form Putin wants to lay it on them. I don't mean for heatin' and cookin' and industry either.
What can we little pontificates have as an effect here, however?
Makes you feel a bit unappreciated. I hope the snoopin' watch dogs are reading our site.