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Missouri bill to nullify virtually all federal gun control - Love and Honor - 04-04-2014 02:24 PM

http://blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2014/04/missouri-house-votes-to-nullify-all-federal-gun-control-measures/?doing_wp_cron=1396636660.3803360462188720703125#.Uz8FWPldWSp

RE: Missouri bill to nullify virtually all federal gun control - ClairtonPanther - 04-04-2014 02:33 PM

So does this mean people can walk the streets w/ M16's?

RE: Missouri bill to nullify virtually all federal gun control - Fitbud - 04-04-2014 02:37 PM

(04-04-2014 02:33 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  So does this mean people can walk the streets w/ M16's?

I just love it when a Southern state plays the nullify card. It makes for a good teaching moment for my students.

RE: Missouri bill to nullify virtually all federal gun control - pharaoh0 - 04-04-2014 02:39 PM

(04-04-2014 02:33 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  So does this mean people can walk the streets w/ M16's?

It depends on what the laws of the state say about that. The effect of this legislation is to remove state and local gov't resources from aiding the federal gov't in policing certain federal statutes. And second, to nullify federal rules that are enacted to reduce gun ownership by law abiding citizens. The legality of the second is going to be complicated though.

RE: Missouri bill to nullify virtually all federal gun control - pharaoh0 - 04-04-2014 02:40 PM

(04-04-2014 02:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 02:33 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  So does this mean people can walk the streets w/ M16's?

I just love it when a Southern state plays the nullify card. It makes for a good teaching moment for my students.

What do you think a sanctuary city is?

RE: Missouri bill to nullify virtually all federal gun control - dfarr - 04-04-2014 02:54 PM

(04-04-2014 02:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 02:33 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  So does this mean people can walk the streets w/ M16's?

I just love it when a Southern state plays the nullify card. It makes for a good teaching moment for my students.

Well, I hope that you teach your students that Missouri isn't in the south. Just because they play in the SEC doesn't make them southern.

RE: Missouri bill to nullify virtually all federal gun control - Fitbud - 04-04-2014 02:54 PM

(04-04-2014 02:40 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 02:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 02:33 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  So does this mean people can walk the streets w/ M16's?

I just love it when a Southern state plays the nullify card. It makes for a good teaching moment for my students.

What do you think a sanctuary city is?

I don't see where you are going with this.

RE: Missouri bill to nullify virtually all federal gun control - pharaoh0 - 04-04-2014 03:09 PM

(04-04-2014 02:54 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 02:40 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 02:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 02:33 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  So does this mean people can walk the streets w/ M16's?

I just love it when a Southern state plays the nullify card. It makes for a good teaching moment for my students.

What do you think a sanctuary city is?

I don't see where you are going with this.

If that's the case, then you shouldn't be using this as a "teaching moment" for anyone. But, I'll help you. The major chunk of this statute merely says that Missouri is no longer going to help enforce federal law regarding gun control. No different than sanctuary cities.

RE: Missouri bill to nullify virtually all federal gun control - Fitbud - 04-04-2014 04:45 PM

(04-04-2014 03:09 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 02:54 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 02:40 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 02:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 02:33 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  So does this mean people can walk the streets w/ M16's?

I just love it when a Southern state plays the nullify card. It makes for a good teaching moment for my students.

What do you think a sanctuary city is?

I don't see where you are going with this.

If that's the case, then you shouldn't be using this as a "teaching moment" for anyone. But, I'll help you. The major chunk of this statute merely says that Missouri is no longer going to help enforce federal law regarding gun control. No different than sanctuary cities.

Sanctuary cities aren't something that comes up in the first part of U.S. history.

Nullification does. So whenever a state uses nullification in current events, it because a teaching moment for my students to refer to.

RE: Missouri bill to nullify virtually all federal gun control - DaSaintFan - 04-04-2014 04:49 PM

(04-04-2014 02:33 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  So does this mean people can walk the streets w/ M16's?

No, the state declares what is and isn't an illegal weapon in Missouri, and what kind of carry is allowed (right now Missouri is concealed carry, and you're permitted to have guns in your vehicles, as long as they are separated from the magazine and unloaded.)

But there are still some limits as to what you can / cannot carry. I don't have the full list though.

Federal officials cannot come in and usurp the authority of Missouri to arrest/prosecute if Missouri says nothing illegal is going on.

RE: Missouri bill to nullify virtually all federal gun control - supertiger - 04-04-2014 05:34 PM

(04-04-2014 02:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 02:33 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  So does this mean people can walk the streets w/ M16's?

I just love it when a Southern state plays the nullify card. It makes for a good teaching moment for my students.

Missouri isn't the South....It's midwestern.

Missouri is where all cowards fled during the civil war.

RE: Missouri bill to nullify virtually all federal gun control - gdunn - 04-05-2014 12:24 PM

Trust me.. Been living in Big Mo' since October.. These folks ain't Southern.

Fitbud fails... Again.

RE: Missouri bill to nullify virtually all federal gun control - Fitbud - 04-05-2014 12:33 PM

(04-04-2014 05:34 PM)supertiger Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 02:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 02:33 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  So does this mean people can walk the streets w/ M16's?

I just love it when a Southern state plays the nullify card. It makes for a good teaching moment for my students.

Missouri isn't the South....It's midwestern.

Missouri is where all cowards fled during the civil war.

But it was a slave state. I consider all slave states part of the South.

RE: Missouri bill to nullify virtually all federal gun control - smn1256 - 04-05-2014 12:33 PM

(04-04-2014 02:40 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 02:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 02:33 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  So does this mean people can walk the streets w/ M16's?

I just love it when a Southern state plays the nullify card. It makes for a good teaching moment for my students.

What do you think a sanctuary city is?

Don't forget pot laws.

RE: Missouri bill to nullify virtually all federal gun control - Fitbud - 04-05-2014 12:34 PM

Missouri is where all the cowards fled?

Yeah because defending the institution of slavery is for tough guys right?

RE: Missouri bill to nullify virtually all federal gun control - gdunn - 04-05-2014 12:37 PM

(04-05-2014 12:33 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 05:34 PM)supertiger Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 02:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 02:33 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  So does this mean people can walk the streets w/ M16's?

I just love it when a Southern state plays the nullify card. It makes for a good teaching moment for my students.

Missouri isn't the South....It's midwestern.

Missouri is where all cowards fled during the civil war.

But it was a slave state. I consider all slave states part of the South.

So was NY, PA, Maine, Vermont, etc.

RE: Missouri bill to nullify virtually all federal gun control - Fitbud - 04-05-2014 12:38 PM

(04-05-2014 12:37 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(04-05-2014 12:33 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 05:34 PM)supertiger Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 02:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 02:33 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  So does this mean people can walk the streets w/ M16's?

I just love it when a Southern state plays the nullify card. It makes for a good teaching moment for my students.

Missouri isn't the South....It's midwestern.

Missouri is where all cowards fled during the civil war.

But it was a slave state. I consider all slave states part of the South.

So was NY, PA, Maine, Vermont, etc.

Those states outlawed slavery long before the Civil War.

RE: Missouri bill to nullify virtually all federal gun control - gdunn - 04-05-2014 12:41 PM

(04-05-2014 12:38 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(04-05-2014 12:37 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(04-05-2014 12:33 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 05:34 PM)supertiger Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 02:37 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I just love it when a Southern state plays the nullify card. It makes for a good teaching moment for my students.

Missouri isn't the South....It's midwestern.

Missouri is where all cowards fled during the civil war.

But it was a slave state. I consider all slave states part of the South.

So was NY, PA, Maine, Vermont, etc.

Those states outlawed slavery long before the Civil War.
You said: I consider any slave state a Southern State.. These states as part of the original 13 began slavery in America. After the Revolutionary War, they began to slowly emancipate them, not eradicate, but it was up to the people what to do. After cotton boomed in the south and manufacturing boomed up north, the Northern states didn't need slavery.. However, the Emancipation Proclamation wasn't just for the Southern States.. It was for all of the United States.

You know for a history teacher you don't know much about history.

RE: Missouri bill to nullify virtually all federal gun control - Fitbud - 04-05-2014 12:55 PM

(04-05-2014 12:41 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(04-05-2014 12:38 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(04-05-2014 12:37 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(04-05-2014 12:33 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 05:34 PM)supertiger Wrote:  Missouri isn't the South....It's midwestern.

Missouri is where all cowards fled during the civil war.

But it was a slave state. I consider all slave states part of the South.

So was NY, PA, Maine, Vermont, etc.

Those states outlawed slavery long before the Civil War.
You said: I consider any slave state a Southern State.. These states as part of the original 13 began slavery in America. After the Revolutionary War, they began to slowly emancipate them, not eradicate, but it was up to the people what to do. After cotton boomed in the south and manufacturing boomed up north, the Northern states didn't need slavery.. However, the Emancipation Proclamation wasn't just for the Southern States.. It was for all of the United States.

You know for a history teacher you don't know much about history.

You didn't tell me anything I didn't already know. You simply took what I first said literally.

You guys do a lot of that.

RE: Missouri bill to nullify virtually all federal gun control - HeartOfDixie - 04-05-2014 12:57 PM

Well this thread has gone downhill.

This isn't actually nullification; I'd hope teachers would pay more attention to particulars.