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Navy releases map showing location of fleet during Benghazi attacks - smn1256 - 02-15-2014 12:30 PM

Our government simply let our people die.

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The Navy has released a map showing the locations of its fleet positions near Benghazi, Libya on Sept. 11, 2012 — when terrorists killed four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens.

The unclassified map — which was obtained by a retired Air Force veteran investigating the attacks through a public records request and published online by the group Judicial Watch — shows that there were dozens of vessels in the region during the attacks.

On the day of the attacks, the Navy had two aircraft carriers, four amphibious ships, 13 destroyers, three cruisers, a dozen small Navy boats and a command ship, Judicial Watch noted in its analysis of the map.

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http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/13/navy-releases-map-showing-location-of-fleet-positions-during-benghazi-attacks/



RE: Navy releases map showing location of fleet during Benghazi attacks - mptnstr@44 - 02-15-2014 12:58 PM

Answer from the left: What difference does it make?

The GOP needs to hang Benghazi around Hillary's neck, make her own it and wear it with no mercy. Woman or not, she should be held fully accountable for what happens on her watch.

I hope those who are investigating this do not relent until we know the truth about what happened, why no aid was sent, and the guilty are brought to justice.

To this day I wonder how could those people who knew what was happening on that night (Clinton, Obama, Panetta, etc,) could stand by and watch and do nothing?

The Navy seals who died had to defy orders to stand down to give aid to those under attack. To this day do we know who ordered them to stand down and why?

Shame on those who had the opportunity to send help and did nothing. The blood of the four dead is as much on their hands as those who did the actual killing.


RE: Navy releases map showing location of fleet during Benghazi attacks - SumOfAllFears - 02-15-2014 01:00 PM

Zero was asleep getting ready for the campaign trip to Nevada, and Killary feared another "black hawk down" situation. She gave the stand down order and let them die. Blood on their hands.


RE: Navy releases map showing location of fleet during Benghazi attacks - mathenis89 - 02-15-2014 01:00 PM

Democrats sure are the only ones who let Americans overseas die on their watch.

Oh wait.

January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of "Bali Bombings." No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name "David Foy." This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what's considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting "Allahu akbar" storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

September 17, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.


RE: Navy releases map showing location of fleet during Benghazi attacks - SumOfAllFears - 02-15-2014 01:02 PM

(02-15-2014 01:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  Democrats sure are the only ones who let Americans overseas die on their watch.

Oh wait.

January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of "Bali Bombings." No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name "David Foy." This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what's considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting "Allahu akbar" storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

September 17, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

I did not see a dead US ambassador in there, hmmmmm.


RE: Navy releases map showing location of fleet during Benghazi attacks - mathenis89 - 02-15-2014 01:02 PM

(02-15-2014 01:02 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 01:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  Democrats sure are the only ones who let Americans overseas die on their watch.

Oh wait.

January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of "Bali Bombings." No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name "David Foy." This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what's considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting "Allahu akbar" storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

September 17, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

I did not see a US ambassador in there, hmmmmm.

Good argument. Move those goal posts, kiddo.


RE: Navy releases map showing location of fleet during Benghazi attacks - SumOfAllFears - 02-15-2014 01:04 PM

(02-15-2014 01:02 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 01:02 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 01:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  Democrats sure are the only ones who let Americans overseas die on their watch.

Oh wait.

January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of "Bali Bombings." No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name "David Foy." This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what's considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting "Allahu akbar" storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

September 17, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

I did not see a US ambassador in there, hmmmmm.

Good argument. Move those goal posts, kiddo.

The Ambassador was left to die by Zero and Killary for political reasons. Those were their goals. Your projections only show guilt.


RE: Navy releases map showing location of fleet during Benghazi attacks - mathenis89 - 02-15-2014 01:11 PM

(02-15-2014 01:04 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 01:02 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 01:02 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 01:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  Democrats sure are the only ones who let Americans overseas die on their watch.

Oh wait.

January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of "Bali Bombings." No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name "David Foy." This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what's considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting "Allahu akbar" storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

September 17, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

I did not see a US ambassador in there, hmmmmm.

Good argument. Move those goal posts, kiddo.

The Ambassador was left to die by Zero and Killary for political reasons. Those were their goals. Your projections only show guilt.

Calm down there, champ.

What proof do you have of what you're saying, bud?

"Bush let all those Americans die for political reasons." There, I win now, right? I said it so it's true.


RE: Navy releases map showing location of fleet during Benghazi attacks - SumOfAllFears - 02-15-2014 01:20 PM

(02-15-2014 01:11 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 01:04 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 01:02 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 01:02 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 01:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  Democrats sure are the only ones who let Americans overseas die on their watch.

Oh wait.

January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of "Bali Bombings." No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name "David Foy." This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what's considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting "Allahu akbar" storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

September 17, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

I did not see a US ambassador in there, hmmmmm.

Good argument. Move those goal posts, kiddo.

The Ambassador was left to die by Zero and Killary for political reasons. Those were their goals. Your projections only show guilt.

Calm down there, champ.

What proof do you have of what you're saying, bud?

"Bush let all those Americans die for political reasons." There, I win now, right? I said it so it's true.

What do you call a bunch of liberals standing ear to ear?

A wind tunnel!


RE: Navy releases map showing location of fleet during Benghazi attacks - blah - 02-15-2014 01:31 PM

(02-15-2014 01:11 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 01:04 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 01:02 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 01:02 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 01:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  Democrats sure are the only ones who let Americans overseas die on their watch.

Oh wait.

January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of "Bali Bombings." No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name "David Foy." This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what's considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting "Allahu akbar" storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

September 17, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

I did not see a US ambassador in there, hmmmmm.

Good argument. Move those goal posts, kiddo.

The Ambassador was left to die by Zero and Killary for political reasons. Those were their goals. Your projections only show guilt.

Calm down there, champ.

What proof do you have of what you're saying, bud?

"Bush let all those Americans die for political reasons." There, I win now, right? I said it so it's true.

You are right....Bush was a terrible president. Now admit that Obama is too....


RE: Navy releases map showing location of fleet during Benghazi attacks - smn1256 - 02-15-2014 01:37 PM

(02-15-2014 01:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  Democrats sure are the only ones who let Americans overseas die on their watch.

Oh wait.

January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of "Bali Bombings." No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name "David Foy." This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what's considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting "Allahu akbar" storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

September 17, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

So while all these attacks took place we did nothing? Not a chance in the world Bush would let that happen. And even if he did let it happen, it certainly doesn't justify Obama and Clinton's actions. If you were in a life or death situation, who would you trust to come and save you, Clinton, Obama, or Bush?

Face it, the decision to abandon Americans in Benghazi was a political one.


RE: Navy releases map showing location of fleet during Benghazi attacks - Claw - 02-15-2014 02:21 PM

(02-15-2014 01:02 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 01:02 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 01:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  Democrats sure are the only ones who let Americans overseas die on their watch.

Oh wait.

January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of "Bali Bombings." No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name "David Foy." This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what's considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting "Allahu akbar" storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

September 17, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

I did not see a US ambassador in there, hmmmmm.

Good argument. Move those goal posts, kiddo.

I don't see a massive cover up, or fabricated cover stories about mobs reacting to a move, or faked medical problems to avoid testifying at Congressional hearings.

Hillary ruined her career AFTER the incident. Her mishandling of the incident could be dismissed as a mistake in judgment during the hear of the moment. What she did afterwards displays a lack of character and an inability to lead. She's done.


RE: Navy releases map showing location of fleet during Benghazi attacks - mptnstr@44 - 02-15-2014 02:31 PM

(02-15-2014 01:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  Democrats sure are the only ones who let Americans overseas die on their watch.

Oh wait.

January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of "Bali Bombings." No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name "David Foy." This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what's considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting "Allahu akbar" storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

September 17, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

I don't care which administration was in charge as it has nothing to do with it. And while each of those attacks above were grave situations to use them as equivalencies you have to ask of each or any of them:

1) Did we have warning ahead of time for any or all of those attacks?
We did for Benghazi.

2) Did we have an ambassador asking for greater protection knowing that the area was becoming a powderkeg?
Chris Stevens asked for additional protection and was told no.

3) Did we have ships in the area close enough to offer aid?
By the map above we certainly did and could have possibly in time to save them.

4) Did we have air power close enough to offer aid? There were fighter planes that could've been deployed maybe in time to save the dying.

5) Did we have military on the ground in the area ready to offer assistance but told to stand down?
We did and they were.

Fact is...four Americans fought for their lives WAITING FOR THEIR COUNTRY TO COME TO THEIR AID and even though we could've offered aid, possibly in time, those in charge stood by and DID NOTHING.

Their coverup and story-telling after that fact just adds to their ineptitude and cowardice.


RE: Navy releases map showing location of fleet during Benghazi attacks - Paul M - 02-15-2014 03:07 PM

(02-15-2014 01:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  Democrats sure are the only ones who let Americans overseas die on their watch.

Oh wait.
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This is so idiotically stupid only a complete and total moron could type it. No need in responding to the brain dead.


RE: Navy releases map showing location of fleet during Benghazi attacks - mathenis89 - 02-15-2014 03:12 PM

(02-15-2014 01:31 PM)blah Wrote:  You are right....Bush was a terrible president. Now admit that Obama is too....

Obama is a terrible president. I have never said he was a good one.

I'm just sick of Conservatives conveniently forgetting the ****** things their party has done and lay all blame on the Left. Christ, you behave like petty 10 year olds.


RE: Navy releases map showing location of fleet during Benghazi attacks - UM2001GRAD - 02-15-2014 03:13 PM

This is yet another issue where the right-wing is out of touch with the American people. 2016 will be another big loss for the GOPers if you push conspiracy theories again. We on the left are counting on you to do it.


RE: Navy releases map showing location of fleet during Benghazi attacks - mathenis89 - 02-15-2014 03:14 PM

(02-15-2014 03:13 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  This is yet another issue where the right-wing is out of touch with the American people. 2016 will be another big loss for the GOPers if you push conspiracy theories again. We on the left are counting on you to do it.

The 2016 elections belong to the Democrats.

I just want a Third Party to come to prominence, but the powers that be would never allow it.


RE: Navy releases map showing location of fleet during Benghazi attacks - UM2001GRAD - 02-15-2014 03:20 PM

(02-15-2014 03:14 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(02-15-2014 03:13 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  This is yet another issue where the right-wing is out of touch with the American people. 2016 will be another big loss for the GOPers if you push conspiracy theories again. We on the left are counting on you to do it.

The 2016 elections belong to the Democrats.

I just want a Third Party to come to prominence, but the powers that be would never allow it.

The only way for the smaller parties to gain traction is to change the voting system. IRV would make a massive difference along with serious campaign finance changes. It will never happen, but it's nice to think about.


RE: Navy releases map showing location of fleet during Benghazi attacks - Owl 69/70/75 - 02-15-2014 03:25 PM

(02-15-2014 02:31 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  I don't care which administration was in charge as it has nothing to do with it. And while each of those attacks above were grave situations to use them as equivalencies you have to ask of each or any of them:
1) Did we have warning ahead of time for any or all of those attacks?
We did for Benghazi.

True, beyond any reasonable doubt. If you doubt this, then please explain why the Brits and others pulled out before this.

Quote:2) Did we have an ambassador asking for greater protection knowing that the area was becoming a powderkeg?
Chris Stevens asked for additional protection and was told no.

True. Stevens asked for protection from State and his request was denied. Much has been made by some on the left that Stevens was offered protection by the military and refused it. But that was accepting help from another agency after his own agency had denied it. That's how you destroy a career in federal government. Of course, he ended up destroying more than that. And for those who want to blame republican efforts to cut spending for the problem, note that the military didn't have any problem finding the means to offer protection. And given the nature and scope of the attacks, it probably would have taken military action to stop the attack.

Quote:3) Did we have ships in the area close enough to offer aid?
By the map above we certainly did and could have possibly in time to save them.

No, not really. Laboon, Forrest Sherman, Dunham, and Cole probably could have done something had they been brought into the area beforehand, but they were too far away. And they were 1) the only ships close enough to make any difference at all, and 2) not really what we needed. New York (in the Red Sea) was the closest ship that is really equipped to land a force of sufficient size to make a difference. That, of course, does not give the administration a free pass but rather calls into question exactly why at least some of those ships were not moved into the area. Somebody had to realize that 9/11 in Benghazi was a much higher risk that Souda Bay, Crete

Quote:4) Did we have air power close enough to offer aid? There were fighter planes that could've been deployed maybe in time to save the dying.

They could have flown over and made a lot of noise. But that wouldn't have made much difference, and there wouldn't really have been much else they could have done. Would we have wanted them to drop bombs? Bombs aren't very accurate. Even guided weapons wouldn't have been precise enough to use.

Quote:5) Did we have military on the ground in the area ready to offer assistance but told to stand down?
We did and they were.

This does appear to be the case to at least some extent. Whether there were enough forces close enough to make a difference is questionable to doubtful. But as I said above, that doesn't excuse not sending them in, rather it provokes the question why we were so unprepared.

Quote:Their coverup and story-telling after that fact just adds to their ineptitude and cowardice.

Yep. It's not the screw up, it's the coverup that gets you.


RE: Navy releases map showing location of fleet during Benghazi attacks - smn1256 - 02-15-2014 03:27 PM

(02-15-2014 03:13 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  This is yet another issue where the right-wing is out of touch with the American people. 2016 will be another big loss for the GOPers if you push conspiracy theories again. We on the left are counting on you to do it.


Nah, Obama has nothing to hide or run from.

http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2013/08/01/obama-dozen-scandals-counting/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Obama_administration_controversies

http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-complete-list-of-barack-obamas-scandals-misdeeds-crimes-and-blunders/

http://www.naturalnews.com/041056_obama_scandals_benghazi_fast_and_furious.html#