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Social conservatives make it illegal to modify your car in the name of the drug war - WPDAWG08 - 11-21-2013 07:53 PM
For the first time in Northeast Ohio, state troopers made an arrest under the state's new "hidden compartment" law.
The bust happened yesterday on the turnpike in Lorain County.
They pulled over the driver for speeding, but then troopers noticed several wires running to the back of the car.
Those wires then led them directly to a hidden compartment.
Around 5 p.m. on Tuesday state troopers made the arrest under the law, which is meant to combat criminals who modify the inside of their car, allowing them to store drugs or weapons inside secret compartments, which can often only be accessed electronically.
"During the search, they noticed some components inside the vehicle that did not appear to be factory," says Lt. Michael Combs with State Highway Patrol.
Channel 3 was not able to shoot video of that car right now because it is being held as evidence, but we can tell you it's "hide" was accessed electronically, meaning you needed to perform a series of events in the correct order, and the the false floor seats or taillights would then pop out, revealing the secret compartment.
The giveaway this time?
"We figured it out and followed the wiring and we were able to get it open," says Combs.
Troopers arrested 30-year-old Norman Gurley, who didn't even have any drugs on him, but it didn't matter, because in Ohio, just driving a "trap" car is now a felony.
"Without the hidden compartment law, we would not have had any charges on the suspect," says Combs.
But because of this law, one more "trap car" is now off Northeast Ohio roads.
"We apparently caught them between runs, so to speak, so this takes away one tool they have in their illegal trade. The law does help us and is on our side," says Combs.
Gurley, who is from Michigan, was arraigned this morning and has since posted bond.
Combs says the "hide" in Gurley's car was big enough to carry several pounds of drugs.
RE: Social conservatives make it illegal to modify your car in the name of the drug war - smn1256 - 11-21-2013 08:16 PM
This is bullcrap. Using the same logic, I wouldn't be allowed to have a hidden safe in my house.
RE: Social conservatives make it illegal to modify your car in the name of the drug war - JMUDunk - 11-21-2013 08:35 PM
It's the same cat and mouse game as running shine. This guy just got popped.
No problem with this, much lower expectation of privacy in your car than your home.
RE: Social conservatives make it illegal to modify your car in the name of the drug war - oklalittledixie - 11-21-2013 08:38 PM
and this has to do with social conservatives, how? Were they worried that they were performing abortions in that hidden compartment? Maybe holding gay weddings in the glove box?
RE: Social conservatives make it illegal to modify your car in the name of the drug war - WPDAWG08 - 11-21-2013 08:59 PM
(11-21-2013 08:38 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: and this has to do with social conservatives, how? Were they worried that they were performing abortions in that hidden compartment? Maybe holding gay weddings in the glove box?
Hmm yeah b/c the drug war is not fully and exclusively supported by social conservatives. Heck Obama smoked crack!
RE: Social conservatives make it illegal to modify your car in the name of the drug war - THE NC Herd Fan - 11-21-2013 09:11 PM
(11-21-2013 08:59 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:(11-21-2013 08:38 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: and this has to do with social conservatives, how? Were they worried that they were performing abortions in that hidden compartment? Maybe holding gay weddings in the glove box?
Hmm yeah b/c the drug war is not fully and exclusively supported by social conservatives. Heck Obama smoked crack!
I'm having a tough time making a connection on this with So. Cons too. No one but So. Cons. what to stop the ILLEGAL drug trade?
How do you know it wasn't the Left Wingnuts who wanted the law to stop illegal gun running?
Social conservatives make it illegal to modify your car in the name of the drug war - EverRespect - 11-21-2013 09:15 PM
What the hell does this have to do with conservatism?
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RE: Social conservatives make it illegal to modify your car in the name of the drug war - Bull_In_Exile - 11-21-2013 09:26 PM
(11-21-2013 08:59 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:(11-21-2013 08:38 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: and this has to do with social conservatives, how? Were they worried that they were performing abortions in that hidden compartment? Maybe holding gay weddings in the glove box?
Hmm yeah b/c the drug war is not fully and exclusively supported by social conservatives. Heck Obama smoked crack!
You do know a whole lot of those WOD laws were passed by democratic legislatures right?
RE: Social conservatives make it illegal to modify your car in the name of the drug war - smn1256 - 11-21-2013 09:46 PM
(11-21-2013 08:35 PM)JMUDunk Wrote: It's the same cat and mouse game as running shine. This guy just got popped.
No problem with this, much lower expectation of privacy in your car than your home.
I still don't know why it's illegal to modify a car if it doesn't cause a safety concern. Just because someone "might" do something is not a reason to arrest someone. The are making some assumptions with this one.
RE: Social conservatives make it illegal to modify your car in the name of the drug war - WPDAWG08 - 11-21-2013 09:57 PM
(11-21-2013 09:11 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:(11-21-2013 08:59 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:(11-21-2013 08:38 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: and this has to do with social conservatives, how? Were they worried that they were performing abortions in that hidden compartment? Maybe holding gay weddings in the glove box?
Hmm yeah b/c the drug war is not fully and exclusively supported by social conservatives. Heck Obama smoked crack!
I'm having a tough time making a connection on this with So. Cons too. No one but So. Cons. what to stop the ILLEGAL drug trade?
How do you know it wasn't the Left Wingnuts who wanted the law to stop illegal gun running?
No money to motivate going after illegal guns. Mucho profits for the justice system, law enforcement, and prisons in finding another way to drug charge you and invade profiled persons freedoms.
RE: Social conservatives make it illegal to modify your car in the name of the drug war - SumOfAllFears - 11-21-2013 09:58 PM
(11-21-2013 08:59 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:(11-21-2013 08:38 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: and this has to do with social conservatives, how? Were they worried that they were performing abortions in that hidden compartment? Maybe holding gay weddings in the glove box?
Hmm yeah b/c the drug war is not fully and exclusively supported by social conservatives. Heck Obama smoked crack!
Hey, DumbDawg, Obama's Fed's raided Colorado's pot dispensaries today.
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_24570937/feds-involved-raid-at-denver-area-marijuana
So much for your stupid theories.
RE: Social conservatives make it illegal to modify your car in the name of the drug war - WPDAWG08 - 11-21-2013 10:05 PM
Progressives can be socially conservative but they mainly like it b/c it is a growth of government both sides of the isle agree on. RINOs and Progs in perfect unity!
RE: Social conservatives make it illegal to modify your car in the name of the drug war - RaiderATO - 11-21-2013 10:08 PM
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/03/alfred-anaya/all/
"Alfred Anaya was a genius at installing secret compartments in cars. If they were used to smuggle drugs without his knowledge, he figured that wasn’t his problem. He was wrong."
RE: Social conservatives make it illegal to modify your car in the name of the drug war - SumOfAllFears - 11-21-2013 10:12 PM
(11-21-2013 10:05 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote: Progressives can be socially conservative but they mainly like it b/c it is a growth of government both sides of the isle agree on. RINOs and Progs in perfect unity!
WTF are you babbling about, now. Put the crack pipe down and step away from the keyboard.
RE: Social conservatives make it illegal to modify your car in the name of the drug war - WPDAWG08 - 11-22-2013 09:54 AM
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/North-Texas-Drivers-Stopped-at-Roadblock-Asked-for-Saliva-Blood-232438621.html
These people were forced to pull over and then intimidated to give a saliva and blood sample to the police officers. Don't get it twisted, THESE PEOPLE WERE FORCED to be checked for drugs for no reason. Social conservatism FTW!
RE: Social conservatives make it illegal to modify your car in the name of the drug war - SumOfAllFears - 11-22-2013 10:07 AM
(11-22-2013 09:54 AM)WPDAWG08 Wrote: http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/North-Texas-Drivers-Stopped-at-Roadblock-Asked-for-Saliva-Blood-232438621.html
These people were forced to pull over and then intimidated to give a saliva and blood sample to the police officers. Don't get it twisted, THESE PEOPLE WERE FORCED to be checked for drugs for no reason. Social conservatism FTW!
How is that Social conservatism? We are living in a police state encouraged by big gov't liberals whose goal is to control everyone's entire life. You've been brainwashed.
RE: Social conservatives make it illegal to modify your car in the name of the drug war - ummechengr - 11-22-2013 10:10 AM
(11-22-2013 09:54 AM)WPDAWG08 Wrote: http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/North-Texas-Drivers-Stopped-at-Roadblock-Asked-for-Saliva-Blood-232438621.html
These people were forced to pull over and then intimidated to give a saliva and blood sample to the police officers. Don't get it twisted, THESE PEOPLE WERE FORCED to be checked for drugs for no reason. Social conservatism FTW!
RE: Social conservatives make it illegal to modify your car in the name of the drug war - Jerry Falwell - 11-22-2013 10:24 AM
Any $2 lawyer could beat this law. The man bought the car with the compartment and didn't even know it was there... after all, it is "hidden" by definition.
His main offense was doing a halfway job modifying his vehicle, which should be a crime. There's a word for that riggin'
RE: Social conservatives make it illegal to modify your car in the name of the drug war - Bull_In_Exile - 11-22-2013 10:37 AM
(11-22-2013 09:54 AM)WPDAWG08 Wrote: http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/North-Texas-Drivers-Stopped-at-Roadblock-Asked-for-Saliva-Blood-232438621.html
These people were forced to pull over and then intimidated to give a saliva and blood sample to the police officers. Don't get it twisted, THESE PEOPLE WERE FORCED to be checked for drugs for no reason. Social conservatism FTW!
Yea you never saw this type of crap in leftist utopias where people are serfs of the government...
By the way this was for a study on drunk driving habit, a government funded study.
Im not saying pure social conservatives don't have their faults but when a Government can force you to buy insurance they can compel that you submit yourself to a health screening.
RE: Social conservatives make it illegal to modify your car in the name of the drug war - WPDAWG08 - 11-22-2013 11:03 AM
Well it is implied that the leftest are all about big government crack downs. This is where social conservatives and leftists are in agreement.