(07-01-2013 01:04 PM)auburntigersouthernrock Wrote:  SEC won't be adding anyone else unless its NC State and Virginia Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State or UNC and UVA

ECU would have to upgrade their academics, and Cincy has a longshot chance , but I don't see it happening, Marshall, SMU, Southern Miss and Houston are all out of the question

and according to USA Today Slive isn't really in favor of going to 16 so don't plan on anything happening regarding future realignment unless Slive just feels pressured for two more teams

"In some ways 12 is ideal but at least 14 is sort of a cousin of 12. Sixteen is a distant relative. We're actually still in the process of absorbing both of these schools into our scheduling, particularly on the football side. its hard to absorb one let alone two.

There's been some movement throughout the country but that doesn't really affect us . Even when we were at 12 we weren't looking. Both Texas A&M and Missouri came to us. If they hadn't come to us, im not so sure we wouldn't still be at twelve."

(07-01-2013 01:54 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-01-2013 01:04 PM)auburntigersouthernrock Wrote:  SEC won't be adding anyone else unless its NC State and Virginia Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State or UNC and UVA

ECU would have to upgrade their academics, and Cincy has a longshot chance , but I don't see it happening, Marshall, SMU, Southern Miss and Houston are all out of the question

and according to USA Today Slive isn't really in favor of going to 16 so don't plan on anything happening regarding future realignment unless Slive just feels pressured for two more teams

"In some ways 12 is ideal but at least 14 is sort of a cousin of 12. Sixteen is a distant relative. We're actually still in the process of absorbing both of these schools into our scheduling, particularly on the football side. its hard to absorb one let alone two.

There's been some movement throughout the country but that doesn't really affect us . Even when we were at 12 we weren't looking. Both Texas A&M and Missouri came to us. If they hadn't come to us, im not so sure we wouldn't still be at twelve."

That's good temporary copy by Slive, but the goal is 16. It is just much easier to schedule than 14. We will move to 4 half divisions and rotate them each year. I guess that with 3 half division annual foes and 4 rotating foes, that we will still keep 1 permanent rival and stay at 8 games. 16 also accommodates a 9 game schedule easily.

You've got your teams for expansion down with one exception. I do believe we would consider Kansas if Oklahoma was in play. Kansas adds basketball tradition and is AAU. Jayhawks might not set well with the typical Southerner but they could cover some of our deficits nicely without being a real threat on the gridiron where we are stronger than anyone else anyway.

I see our preferences as: 1. Virginia & North Carolina, 2. Virginia Tech & N.C. State, 3. Oklahoma & Kansas. I seriously doubt we would take two Oklahoma schools. I could even see a compromise with another conference where the SEC would take either Oklahoma or Kansas, and then either Oklahoma State or Kansas State depending upon who the first selection was. If the Big 12 is raided I could even see either Oklahoma or Kansas and West Virginia. But that's about it.

(07-01-2013 04:34 PM)bigblueblindness Wrote:  WVU more likely over Kansas? Yes, but not preferred by the SEC. Kansas brings AAU status, a decent market, a built in rival in Mizzou, and a true blue blood basketball program (I consider blue bloods to be UCLA, Kansas, Kentucky, and UNC. Duke, Louisville, and Michigan St. are close for various reasons, most having to do with showing longevity.) That is not to dog WVU... I still think they would be the #5 preference behind UNC, UVA, Oklahoma, and Kansas.

(07-01-2013 04:34 PM)bigblueblindness Wrote:  WVU more likely over Kansas? Yes, but not preferred by the SEC. Kansas brings AAU status, a decent market, a built in rival in Mizzou, and a true blue blood basketball program (I consider blue bloods to be UCLA, Kansas, Kentucky, and UNC. Duke, Louisville, and Michigan St. are close for various reasons, most having to do with showing longevity.) That is not to dog WVU... I still think they would be the #5 preference behind UNC, UVA, Oklahoma, and Kansas.

(07-02-2013 08:32 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  Can we please keep this thread about ECU and our delusional pipe dream to join your mighty conference? LOL!

However, as soon as we win our 1st 3 games (all home games) this year (including VT - Yes book it) & we catapult into the top 20 then we may find a little more support and people will be able to ignore all our warts.

Point is, if we can have several really good seasons in a row & build up our reputation as an academic institution a little more then a pipe dream can turn into merely just a longshot.

You gotta have dreams and you gotta shoot for the stars. Where would all our heroes be if they gave up when everyone else told them they didn't stand a chance. No one has a chance if they don't try.

That is why the SEC is ECU's impossible dream and we won't back down until it is reality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaN8jxAFtDY

(07-02-2013 06:50 PM)Gamecock Wrote:  

(07-02-2013 08:32 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  Can we please keep this thread about ECU and our delusional pipe dream to join your mighty conference? LOL!

However, as soon as we win our 1st 3 games (all home games) this year (including VT - Yes book it) & we catapult into the top 20 then we may find a little more support and people will be able to ignore all our warts.

Point is, if we can have several really good seasons in a row & build up our reputation as an academic institution a little more then a pipe dream can turn into merely just a longshot.

You gotta have dreams and you gotta shoot for the stars. Where would all our heroes be if they gave up when everyone else told them they didn't stand a chance. No one has a chance if they don't try.

That is why the SEC is ECU's impossible dream and we won't back down until it is reality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaN8jxAFtDY

This thread won't be allowed to die until ECU gets the invite.

(07-06-2013 02:13 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  I think we should just brand ourselves ECU and not "East Carolina" for athletic purposes for sure. Look at TCU. Nobody refers to them a "Texas Christian" anymore and everybody in the nation knows TCU. Best thing ECU can do right now is win and dump money into academics as much as possible.

(07-06-2013 03:50 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(07-06-2013 02:13 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  I think we should just brand ourselves ECU and not "East Carolina" for athletic purposes for sure. Look at TCU. Nobody refers to them a "Texas Christian" anymore and everybody in the nation knows TCU. Best thing ECU can do right now is win and dump money into academics as much as possible.

Welcome Blunderbuss. You may be right here...

(07-07-2013 06:31 PM)JRsec Wrote:  I could see East Carolina in an SEC that looked like this:

East: East Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, W. Virginia

Central: Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi, Miss St., Tennessee, Vanderbilt

West: Arkansas, Kansas State, L.S.U., Missouri, Oklahoma/OSU, Texas A&M

9 Conference Games: 5 divisional, 2 each from the other divisions rotated every year for 3 years to play everyone.

Conference Championships to include the 3 divisional champions and the remaining team with the best conference record.

(07-07-2013 06:31 PM)JRsec Wrote:  I could see East Carolina in an SEC that looked like this:

East: East Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, W. Virginia

Central: Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi, Miss St., Tennessee, Vanderbilt

West: Arkansas, Kansas State, L.S.U., Missouri, Oklahoma/OSU, Texas A&M

9 Conference Games: 5 divisional, 2 each from the other divisions rotated every year for 3 years to play everyone.

Conference Championships to include the 3 divisional champions and the remaining team with the best conference record.

(07-08-2013 02:30 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(07-07-2013 06:31 PM)JRsec Wrote:  I could see East Carolina in an SEC that looked like this:

East: East Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, W. Virginia

Central: Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi, Miss St., Tennessee, Vanderbilt

West: Arkansas, Kansas State, L.S.U., Missouri, Oklahoma/OSU, Texas A&M

9 Conference Games: 5 divisional, 2 each from the other divisions rotated every year for 3 years to play everyone.

Conference Championships to include the 3 divisional champions and the remaining team with the best conference record.

JR,

Your 18 plan isn't that dissimilar to my 15 proposal. Especially the consideration given the 'Bama with the Central division. It's imperative that the Tide get their own division with opponents that will put up with them.

(07-10-2013 09:25 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  Not very well written (it is the campus paper after all) but here's an article about ECU potentially joining the SEC in the not too distant future.

http://theeastcarolinian.com/?p=28423

I think that with several years of recruiting in the SEC, ECU could grow like SC has. ECU has a lot in common with schools like SC, VT & WVU & could flourish like those programs have if given the opportunity.

(07-10-2013 08:49 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(07-10-2013 09:25 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  Not very well written (it is the campus paper after all) but here's an article about ECU potentially joining the SEC in the not too distant future.

http://theeastcarolinian.com/?p=28423

I think that with several years of recruiting in the SEC, ECU could grow like SC has. ECU has a lot in common with schools like SC, VT & WVU & could flourish like those programs have if given the opportunity.

It's actually a pretty good article with a few good points.