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Union leaders demanding change to Obamacare - DrTorch - 07-16-2013 08:01 AM now who will tommy and peanut side with?http://blogs.wsj.com/corporate-intelligence/2013/07/12/union-letter-obamacare-will-destroy-the-very-health-and-wellbeing-of-workers/ Quote:Dear Leader Reid and Leader Pelosi: RE: Union leaders demanding change to Obamacare - blah - 07-16-2013 08:20 AM I read the entire letter and the funny thing is that there is not one mention of what Hoffa actually wants congress to do. He wants them to fix it, but how? He never specifically asks for anything. I'm not sure if that is because he is a democrat and is not smart enough to come up with a solution, if he can't understand what the law is saying or if he realizes that there is no solution to this crappy law other than repeal and is afraid to ask for it. RE: Union leaders demanding change to Obamacare - UConn-SMU - 07-16-2013 08:58 AM (07-16-2013 08:20 AM)blah Wrote: I read the entire letter and the funny thing is that there is not one mention of what Hoffa actually wants congress to do. He wants them to fix it, but how? He never specifically asks for anything. I'm not sure if that is because he is a democrat and is not smart enough to come up with a solution, if he can't understand what the law is saying or if he realizes that there is no solution to this crappy law other than repeal and is afraid to ask for it. He probably just wants a waiver. All of Obama's friends will get waivers, then the only ones stuck with Obamacare will be Republicans. RE: Union leaders demanding change to Obamacare - Crebman - 07-16-2013 09:30 AM (07-16-2013 08:58 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:(07-16-2013 08:20 AM)blah Wrote: I read the entire letter and the funny thing is that there is not one mention of what Hoffa actually wants congress to do. He wants them to fix it, but how? He never specifically asks for anything. I'm not sure if that is because he is a democrat and is not smart enough to come up with a solution, if he can't understand what the law is saying or if he realizes that there is no solution to this crappy law other than repeal and is afraid to ask for it. Exactly. He just wants the government to "fix it" for the Unions only so they are exempt. These guys could care less about everyone else. Actually, I doubt they reallly care about the rank & file union members except they want those union dues to keep coming in. This is political cover. RE: Union leaders demanding change to Obamacare - JMUDunk - 07-16-2013 10:30 AM Interesting. so now even Hoffa wants out. Who's left? Who still wants this boondoggle? Can anyone point out the advantages and who should be looking forward to this thing and it's implementation? This is public policy at it's absolute worst. RE: Union leaders demanding change to Obamacare - Smaug - 07-16-2013 10:37 AM So, 15% of the population was uninsured and the president's plan was to wreck it for the other 85%. Brilliant. RE: Union leaders demanding change to Obamacare - JMUDunk - 07-16-2013 10:41 AM (07-16-2013 10:37 AM)Smaug Wrote: So, 15% of the population was uninsured and the president's plan was to wreck it for the other 85%. That's really not too far off. It isn't fair that some have comprehensive health care and others have something less, either by choice or circumstance. Soooo, what's the solution? dumb it all down for everyone. If it sucks for all, that's fine, at least it will be "fair". Welcome to the new socialist utopia. RE: Union leaders demanding change to Obamacare - DrTorch - 07-16-2013 11:29 AM (07-16-2013 10:37 AM)Smaug Wrote: So, 15% of the population was uninsured and the president's plan was to wreck it for the other 85%. It's called progressiveism. And that's how it's worked for decades. RE: Union leaders demanding change to Obamacare - smn1256 - 07-16-2013 11:37 AM Hoffa needs to get thousands of trucks to parade through every capital and major city, block traffic, cause unrest, and maybe even cause a riot or two. They are, after all, the Teamsters. RE: Union leaders demanding change to Obamacare - UConn-SMU - 07-16-2013 11:42 AM (07-16-2013 11:37 AM)smn1256 Wrote: Hoffa needs to get thousands of trucks to parade through every capital and major city, block traffic, cause unrest, and maybe even cause a riot or two. They are, after all, the Teamsters. That would be nice to see, with union members burning Obama in effigy. But the networks wouldn't show it. RE: Union leaders demanding change to Obamacare - MileHighBronco - 07-16-2013 01:33 PM I just love it when some of those who fought so hard for 'the cause' and ignored the warnings of others who said this bill would be a train wreck find out that those people were correct and it IS a train wreck. The rank and file should look hard at their leadership's blind willingness to follow a charlatan and his minions down a rat hole that will destroy their own healthcare plan. They were sold out by their own stupid leadership. The unions supported it. Now, it's time to pay the piper for being stupid. RE: Union leaders demanding change to Obamacare - Crebman - 07-16-2013 01:40 PM (07-16-2013 01:33 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote: I just love it when some of those who fought so hard for 'the cause' and ignored the warnings of others who said this bill would be a train wreck find out that those people were correct and it IS a train wreck. The rank and file should look hard at their leadership's blind willingness to follow a charlatan and his minions down a rat hole that will destroy their own healthcare plan. They were sold out by their own stupid leadership. I agree 100%, but you know that the Obama administration will give them waivers as sure as the sun rises in the east............because this whole boondoggle is about garnering the power to pick the winners and losers. RE: Union leaders demanding change to Obamacare - Fitbud - 07-16-2013 01:45 PM What is likely the issue here is that the Union's originally wanted the public option. The compromise was Obamacare. The Unions are just making sure that they still get their end of the bargain. RE: Union leaders demanding change to Obamacare - GoApps70 - 07-16-2013 01:47 PM Got to redistribute our wealth to be able to add new union members for additional union bosses to be paid. So instead of owning the latest jets, they can afford to have them gold plated. RE: Union leaders demanding change to Obamacare - Fitbud - 07-16-2013 01:50 PM (07-16-2013 01:47 PM)GoApps70 Wrote: Got to redistribute our wealth to be able to add new union members for additional union bosses to be paid. Let's not forget that if employers treated their employees with respect in the first place, there would be no need for unions. RE: Union leaders demanding change to Obamacare - smn1256 - 07-16-2013 02:02 PM (07-16-2013 01:50 PM)Fitbud Wrote:(07-16-2013 01:47 PM)GoApps70 Wrote: Got to redistribute our wealth to be able to add new union members for additional union bosses to be paid. These days that's no longer a problem. If you think unions promote fairness and equality then all you need to look at are the unions for athletes and actors. One guy could have been on the job for years and gets the minimum while the noob gets millions. RE: Union leaders demanding change to Obamacare - DrTorch - 07-16-2013 02:14 PM (07-16-2013 01:50 PM)Fitbud Wrote:(07-16-2013 01:47 PM)GoApps70 Wrote: Got to redistribute our wealth to be able to add new union members for additional union bosses to be paid. Fail. As I asked before, what exactly was the problem? You couldn't answer it then, and you can't answer it now. RE: Union leaders demanding change to Obamacare - Fitbud - 07-16-2013 02:17 PM (07-16-2013 02:14 PM)DrTorch Wrote:(07-16-2013 01:50 PM)Fitbud Wrote:(07-16-2013 01:47 PM)GoApps70 Wrote: Got to redistribute our wealth to be able to add new union members for additional union bosses to be paid. When did you ask that question? The problem? The problem is that the Union leaders think that Obama is going to back out of his original promises he made to the Unions. RE: Union leaders demanding change to Obamacare - JMUDunk - 07-16-2013 02:37 PM (07-16-2013 01:50 PM)Fitbud Wrote:(07-16-2013 01:47 PM)GoApps70 Wrote: Got to redistribute our wealth to be able to add new union members for additional union bosses to be paid. Good grief. Do you exist in 1850's or 1920's America or what? Slavery is still an issue apparently as is the industrial revolution. When are we allowed to finally move along? 150 years isn't long enough? Not sure I'll make it to 200, so let me know. k. thx. RE: Union leaders demanding change to Obamacare - Crebman - 07-16-2013 02:37 PM (07-16-2013 02:17 PM)Fitbud Wrote:(07-16-2013 02:14 PM)DrTorch Wrote:(07-16-2013 01:50 PM)Fitbud Wrote:(07-16-2013 01:47 PM)GoApps70 Wrote: Got to redistribute our wealth to be able to add new union members for additional union bosses to be paid. Bingo. They want their "Cadillac Plans" exempt from any penalties, etc. They couldn't care less about anyone else. In fact, they are probably salivating for the exemptions - more fodder to try and recruit other places to "join the union" = more union dues for the Union Heads to play politics with........ see, power and money. |