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Zimmerman Trial Updates - Bull_In_Exile - 06-26-2013 11:50 AM
Update #1 -
Martin's dad starts a fight with a Zimmerman Supporter. No it was not Barack "Martin could be my son" Obama....
Quote:Trayvon Martin’s father Tracy has reportedly “attacked” a supporter of George Zimmerman, mouthing an expletive (“motherf***er”) during pre-trial proceedings outside the courtroom during an alleged incident relayed by Zimmerman’s defense attorney Mark O’Mara as he argued that Martin and Trayvon’s mother should be barred from the courtroom if Zimmerman’s parents were. http://www.inquisitr.com/815308/trayvon-martins-father-viciously-attacks-zimmerman-supporter-in-court/#Z23U3tvWwTsliOFX.99
Tensions are going to be high here depending on the details of the "attack" it may certainly be understandable.
Update #2
Prosecution Witness says it was a "boys" voice screaming. Though at the time she did not know..
Quote:Manalo said she heard "howling" sounds while in her living room with her family. She later heard cries for help and a struggle outside. She looked out her sliding door and saw two people on the ground, one on top, hitting the other.
The witness said she initially didn't have an opinion on who was on top, but after watching news coverage, believes it was Zimmerman, who she described as the bigger of the two. -- http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/os-george-zimmerman-trial-day-13-20130625,0,638024.story?track=rss
Couple of inconsistencies here
1 - Zimmerman is not "the bigger guy"
In a police statement shortly after the Feb. 26, 2012, shooting, Zimmerman identified himself as 5 feet, 8 inches tall and 194 pounds. The former neighborhood watch volunteer, who has cited self-defense in the Sanford, Fla., shooting, was then 30 pounds heavier and four inches shorter than the teen.
Hard to see a 5'8" guy as "bigger than a 6'0 guy even if he is spotting the taller man 30 pounds.
2 - She sad she hear three pops but Z's gun was only fired once.
RE: Zimmerman Trial Updates - SumOfAllFears - 06-26-2013 11:51 AM
The acorn does not fall far from the tree.
RE: Zimmerman Trial Updates - GoApps70 - 06-26-2013 11:53 AM
Guess I could watch that.
Sounds better than cutting my grass.
RE: Zimmerman Trial Updates - smn1256 - 06-26-2013 11:58 AM
(06-26-2013 11:51 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: The acorn does not fall far from the tree.
You wrote the EXACT words I was going to write.
RE: Zimmerman Trial Updates - Ninerfan1 - 06-26-2013 12:01 PM
This is clearly a case of media coverage influencing a witness. I have no doubt she's convinced herself that Zimmerman was on top hitting Travon. Problem is Travon wasn't hit, but Zimmerman was, repeatedly.
The defense should be able to shred her testimony without much effort.
RE: Zimmerman Trial Updates - SumOfAllFears - 06-26-2013 12:03 PM
(06-26-2013 11:58 AM)smn1256 Wrote:(06-26-2013 11:51 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: The acorn does not fall far from the tree.
You wrote the EXACT words I was going to write.
true dat bro
RE: Zimmerman Trial Updates - Bull_In_Exile - 06-26-2013 12:03 PM
(06-26-2013 11:58 AM)smn1256 Wrote:(06-26-2013 11:51 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: The acorn does not fall far from the tree.
You wrote the EXACT words I was going to write.
Im not going to cast any aspersion the dad here... Nobody know what precipitated the event. If I lost my kid, his fault or not, I would be wound pretty tight.
RE: Zimmerman Trial Updates - Bull_In_Exile - 06-26-2013 12:05 PM
(06-26-2013 12:01 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote: This is clearly a case of media coverage influencing a witness. I have no doubt she's convinced herself that Zimmerman was on top hitting Travon. Problem is Travon wasn't hit, but Zimmerman was, repeatedly.
The defense should be able to shred her testimony without much effort.
Yea I don't know how in the dark, with non form fitting clothing, you say a 5"8 194 pound guy is "bigger" than a 6"0 164 pound guy. But Zimmerman has not done himself any favors by putting on 100+ pounds since the even took place.
RE: Zimmerman Trial Updates - Ninerfan1 - 06-26-2013 12:07 PM
(06-26-2013 12:05 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:(06-26-2013 12:01 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote: This is clearly a case of media coverage influencing a witness. I have no doubt she's convinced herself that Zimmerman was on top hitting Travon. Problem is Travon wasn't hit, but Zimmerman was, repeatedly.
The defense should be able to shred her testimony without much effort.
Yea I don't know how in the dark, with non form fitting clothing, you say a 5"8 194 pound guy is "bigger" than a 6"0 164 pound guy. But Zimmerman has not done himself any favors by putting on 100+ pounds since the even took place.
Amazing what you can convince yourself of when saying the opposite makes you the defender of a "white Hispanic" racist.
RE: Zimmerman Trial Updates - SumOfAllFears - 06-26-2013 12:11 PM
(06-26-2013 12:03 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:(06-26-2013 11:58 AM)smn1256 Wrote:(06-26-2013 11:51 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: The acorn does not fall far from the tree.
You wrote the EXACT words I was going to write.
Im not going to cast any aspersion the dad here... Nobody know what precipitated the event. If I lost my kid, his fault or not, I would be wound pretty tight.
Not casting anything. Facts can speak for themselves. You cannot claim the victim if you are banging someone's head into the concrete.
RE: Zimmerman Trial Updates - RobertN - 06-26-2013 02:31 PM
(06-26-2013 12:11 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:Huh? He was talking about the dad so I am not sure what "banging someone's head into the concrete" has to do with the dad getting upset. As for the last part, you certainly can. If a person attacks you and you fight back and still be the victim.(06-26-2013 12:03 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:(06-26-2013 11:58 AM)smn1256 Wrote:(06-26-2013 11:51 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: The acorn does not fall far from the tree.
You wrote the EXACT words I was going to write.
Im not going to cast any aspersion the dad here... Nobody know what precipitated the event. If I lost my kid, his fault or not, I would be wound pretty tight.
Not casting anything. Facts can speak for themselves. You cannot claim the victim if you are banging someone's head into the concrete.
RE: Zimmerman Trial Updates - smn1256 - 06-26-2013 02:38 PM
Rob, why do you hate brown people?
RE: Zimmerman Trial Updates - RobertN - 06-26-2013 03:15 PM
(06-26-2013 02:38 PM)smn1256 Wrote: Rob, why do you hate brown people?I don't hate anyone-anyone on this board, my old boss who was a complete dick or the former CEO(who just got indicted on fraud and money laundering charges).
RE: Zimmerman Trial Updates - dawgitall - 06-26-2013 04:05 PM
If they are both on the ground it would be hard to tell who is 4 inches taller. It would seem to me in that case, bigger would seem to me to denote larger in stature, heavier. Of course that is just speculation on my part. I don't know what the witness was thinking. There is a lot of that (speculation) going on here. :)
RE: Zimmerman Trial Updates - RobertN - 06-26-2013 04:07 PM
(06-26-2013 04:05 PM)dawgitall Wrote: If they are both on the ground it would be hard to tell who is 4 inches taller. It would seem to me in that case, bigger would seem to me to denote larger in stature, heavier. Of course that is just speculation on my part. I don't know what the witness was thinking. There is a lot of that (speculation) going on here. :)Yeah, I am pretty sure that is what was meant. Even with loose clothing, I think most can tell who is bigger(ie. who weighs more).
RE: Zimmerman Trial Updates - dawgitall - 06-26-2013 04:22 PM
I think all these attorneys must have gone to ritzy private schools. They can not understand that girl to save their lives. My daughter and I sat there and translated everything she said and we were getting very frustrated, just like she was. I guess they've never been around blacks before.
RE: Zimmerman Trial Updates - smn1256 - 06-26-2013 04:29 PM
The trial is televisesd? What network?
RE: Zimmerman Trial Updates - RobertN - 06-26-2013 04:29 PM
(06-26-2013 04:22 PM)dawgitall Wrote: I think all these attorneys must have gone to ritzy private schools. They can not understand that girl to save their lives. My daughter and I sat there and translated everything she said and we were getting very frustrated, just like she was. I guess they've never been around blacks before.While I was getting my brakes done today, they had Swamp People(or whatever that show on the History channel is called) on and it was very hard to understand those rednecks from Louisiana. Good thing they had captions.
RE: Zimmerman Trial Updates - smn1256 - 06-26-2013 04:32 PM
(06-26-2013 04:29 PM)RobertN Wrote:(06-26-2013 04:22 PM)dawgitall Wrote: I think all these attorneys must have gone to ritzy private schools. They can not understand that girl to save their lives. My daughter and I sat there and translated everything she said and we were getting very frustrated, just like she was. I guess they've never been around blacks before.While I was getting my brakes done today, they had Swamp People(or whatever that show on the History channel is called) on and it was very hard to understand those rednecks from Louisiana. Good thing they had captions.
Harder than understanding illegal wetbacks with no education? How come you libs can be bigots but not me?
RE: Zimmerman Trial Updates - firmbizzle - 06-26-2013 04:49 PM
(06-26-2013 04:22 PM)dawgitall Wrote: I think all these attorneys must have gone to ritzy private schools. They can not understand that girl to save their lives. My daughter and I sat there and translated everything she said and we were getting very frustrated, just like she was. I guess they've never been around blacks before.
You speak Ebonics?