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'12 Commit Ceth Miller Transferring out of EMU - EMUEagle17 - 04-03-2013 02:47 PM
2012 Commit Ceth Miller is leaving EMU for Ashland University.
He was a long snapper and a Defensive End.
https://twitter.com/cethmiller12
RE: '12 Commit Ceth Miller Transferring out of EMU - emu79 - 04-03-2013 04:59 PM
Wasn't he brough in as a preferred walk on?
RE: '12 Commit Ceth Miller Transferring out of EMU - ljmhurons - 04-03-2013 10:51 PM
(04-03-2013 05:05 PM)EagleHawk Wrote:(04-03-2013 04:59 PM)emu79 Wrote: Wasn't he brough in as a preferred walk on?
That is correct.
I've always believed that a coach that can get his players to stay and develop will go a long way toward building a program. Now another guy will have to be recruited, coached and grow. It's like starting all over every year.
RE: '12 Commit Ceth Miller Transferring out of EMU - emu steve - 04-04-2013 02:26 AM
(04-03-2013 10:51 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:(04-03-2013 05:05 PM)EagleHawk Wrote:(04-03-2013 04:59 PM)emu79 Wrote: Wasn't he brough in as a preferred walk on?
That is correct.
I've always believed that a coach that can get his players to stay and develop will go a long way toward building a program. Now another guy will have to be recruited, coached and grow. It's like starting all over every year.
In all due regard, this player was a walk-on.
With regards to walk-ons, I assume one of several things will happen:
1). He will progress to the 1st or 2nd team and earn a scholarship (I assume this isn't as common as folk lore would have of the walk-on to all-conference). He would have to beat out scholarship athletes to do and implicitly be a case where college coaches were wrong about his abilities when he was recruitable.
2). He makes special teams, etc. but doesn't go on scholarship and has to decide to:
a). Continue to pay his own way,
b). transfer down and seek scholarship monies, say in D-II,
c). quit the game
Majority/most preferred walk-ons are long shots to make the 2 deeps.
In all due regard, I believe we make too much of preferred walk-ons.
Reminds me of the Rule 5 in baseball, it is a nice program but the odds of finding a player capable of starting isn't good in Rule 5. Most don't pan out.
RE: '12 Commit Ceth Miller Transferring out of EMU - emu79 - 04-04-2013 06:14 AM
It always nice to have more than one long snapper. As it currently stands Riskey will be the only one on the roster when practice commences in the fall.
Still curious about that last scholie for 2013.
RE: '12 Commit Ceth Miller Transferring out of EMU - emu steve - 04-04-2013 07:46 AM
(04-04-2013 06:14 AM)emu79 Wrote: It always nice to have more than one long snapper. As it currently stands Riskey will be the only one on the roster when practice commences in the fall.
Still curious about that last scholie for 2013.
That is true (nice having a 2nd long snapper) but it also shows the inherit difficulties of being a walk-on snapper, punter or kicker.
How many snaps did Miller make last year? Zero?
Certain FB specialties aren't like hoops or baseball where it is easy to give minutes or innings to bench players, esp as game get out of hand (e.g., the game is 10 - 2 and the manager brings in the reliever and says, "mop up").
Does a 2nd string snapper get one snap in the 4th quarter of a blow out?
EDIT: I should add that a long snapper is pretty important because if any snap goes awry that could mean the loss of one or three points!
And also punts are critical too.
I assume the centers are also trained as backup LS too.
RE: '12 Commit Ceth Miller Transferring out of EMU - Eagles2008 - 04-04-2013 09:55 PM
Coach E doesn't like giving up a scholarship to a long snapper.
RE: '12 Commit Ceth Miller Transferring out of EMU - ljmhurons - 04-04-2013 10:34 PM
(04-04-2013 02:26 AM)emu steve Wrote:(04-03-2013 10:51 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:(04-03-2013 05:05 PM)EagleHawk Wrote:(04-03-2013 04:59 PM)emu79 Wrote: Wasn't he brough in as a preferred walk on?
That is correct.
I've always believed that a coach that can get his players to stay and develop will go a long way toward building a program. Now another guy will have to be recruited, coached and grow. It's like starting all over every year.
In all due regard, this player was a walk-on.
With regards to walk-ons, I assume one of several things will happen:
1). He will progress to the 1st or 2nd team and earn a scholarship...
2). He makes special teams, etc. but doesn't go on scholarship and has to decide to:
a). Continue to pay his own way,
b). transfer down and seek scholarship monies, say in D-II,
c). quit the game
Majority/most preferred walk-ons are long shots to make the 2 deeps.
In all due regard, I believe we make too much of preferred walk-ons.
Reminds me of the Rule 5 in baseball, it is a nice program but the odds of finding a player capable of starting isn't good in Rule 5. Most don't pan out.
My point was much larger than Ceth Miller. Each year we have far too few seniors, and too many of them are transfers who played perhaps only two years with us. We need to keep our players.
RE: '12 Commit Ceth Miller Transferring out of EMU - emu steve - 04-05-2013 12:30 AM
LJM,
I agree. Hopefully it changes in 2014 which should have a large senior class.