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Tell me McCarthy wasn't right - Rebel - 03-14-2013 09:42 AM
Aside from him already being vindicated by the Verdona papers...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10243040
RE: Tell me McCarthy wasn't right - Rebel - 03-14-2013 09:44 AM
BTW:
http://thespeechatimeforchoosing.wordpress.com/2010/08/15/socialist-party-of-america-releases-the-names-of-70-democrat-members-of-congress-who-are-members-of-their-caucus/
We have an enemy within.
Here's the actual document screencapped:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/35733956/DSA-Members-American-Socialist-Voter-Democratic-Socialists-of-America-10-1-09
RE: Tell me McCarthy wasn't right - Motown Bronco - 03-14-2013 09:52 AM
Wikipedia describes DU as "an online community for U.S. Democrats." But I've long determined that it doesn't cater to your next-door-neighbor Average Joe Dem. And definitely not a place for Blue Dogs. Maybe it did when it was founded. But it's long since been a haven for militant leftists, hoodied Occupiers, and socialists. It's more fringe than mainstream.
RE: Tell me McCarthy wasn't right - Rebel - 03-14-2013 09:53 AM
(03-14-2013 09:52 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote: Wikipedia describes DU as "an online community for U.S. Democrats." But I've long determined that it doesn't cater to your next-door-neighbor Average Joe Dem. And definitely not a place for Blue Dogs. Maybe it did when it was founded. But it's long since been a haven for militant leftists, hoodied Occupiers, and socialists. It's more fringe than mainstream.
Alan Grayson is a member there. I assure you, it is mainstream. Even the DNC itself prided itself on "purging" the Blue Dogs years ago.
RE: Tell me McCarthy wasn't right - Bull_In_Exile - 03-14-2013 10:11 AM
The problem is that conservatives are largely static. That's not great for perception but it is great for reality. The conservative ideals of today are more or less the same that they will be in 20 years. They may vacillate a little here or there but basically you can count on it.
Progressives, by their very nature, are going to move further and further to the left. Unlike traditional Liberals modern progressives are not really open and honest about their 50 year plan. They just try to sell you what they can today in an attempt to boil America like a frog in water.
RE: Tell me McCarthy wasn't right - RobertN - 03-14-2013 10:20 AM
(03-14-2013 09:42 AM)Rebel Wrote: Aside from him already being vindicated by the Verdona papers...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10243040
Yeah, this country is being overrun by Communists.
RE: Tell me McCarthy wasn't right - DrTorch - 03-14-2013 10:28 AM
(03-14-2013 10:11 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: The problem is that conservatives are largely static. That's not great for perception but it is great for reality. The conservative ideals of today are more or less the same that they will be in 20 years. They may vacillate a little here or there but basically you can count on it.
Progressives, by their very nature, are going to move further and further to the left. Unlike traditional Liberals modern progressives are not really open and honest about their 50 year plan. They just try to sell you what they can today in an attempt to boil America like a frog in water.
There is truth to that.
I think there is more as well.
One is that disaster doesn't usually strike the next day, so people venture liberal, don't see any immediate negative consequences, so they think it was ok, and all those warnings were just nonsense.
Then that starts to wipe the collective memory of the society. They forget what hard work it took to get them success, they forget how hard life was before, so they're willing to risk that success. On the flip side, even as things get worse, they don't have a good recollection of what they lost. They don't fight for it b/c they can't remember it.
None of this is new phenomena, but I get angriest at those whose responsibility it was to keep those memories in the culture.
RE: Tell me McCarthy wasn't right - SuperFlyBCat - 03-14-2013 10:37 AM
Over the years people talk about Socialists, Communists etc., trying to take over the
Country, and others kind of laugh it off. But those radicals now run mainstream organizations
and are elected officials.
RE: Tell me McCarthy wasn't right - RobertN - 03-14-2013 10:42 AM
(03-14-2013 10:37 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: Over the years people talk about Socialists, Communists etc., trying to take over the
Country, and others kind of laugh it off. But those radicals now run mainstream organizations
and are elected officials.
I can think of one Socialist(Bernie Sanders) but I am not aware of any more than that. Have any more you would like to share with me?
RE: Tell me McCarthy wasn't right - Fo Shizzle - 03-14-2013 10:49 AM
(03-14-2013 10:42 AM)RobertN Wrote:(03-14-2013 10:37 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: Over the years people talk about Socialists, Communists etc., trying to take over the
Country, and others kind of laugh it off. But those radicals now run mainstream organizations
and are elected officials.
Find a mirror.
RE: Tell me McCarthy wasn't right - Rebel - 03-14-2013 11:00 AM
(03-14-2013 10:42 AM)RobertN Wrote:(03-14-2013 10:37 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: Over the years people talk about Socialists, Communists etc., trying to take over the
Country, and others kind of laugh it off. But those radicals now run mainstream organizations
and are elected officials.
Do you realize how much of an ass you make out of yourself by not reading?
http://www.scribd.com/doc/35733956/DSA-Members-American-Socialist-Voter-Democratic-Socialists-of-America-10-1-09
RE: Tell me McCarthy wasn't right - Brookes Owl - 03-14-2013 12:51 PM
(03-14-2013 09:42 AM)Rebel Wrote: Aside from him already being vindicated by the Verdona papers...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10243040
WTF? You're not going to get much traction with an argument where rehabbing McCarthy is a central point, especially as out of context as this one.
Bull and Torch are framing the problem correctly. Socialism in the US isn't the fault of the socialists.
RE: Tell me McCarthy wasn't right - RobertN - 03-14-2013 12:54 PM
(03-14-2013 10:49 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:I am not a socialist or a cimmunist so you are already wrong(like usual) but I was talking about politicians.(03-14-2013 10:42 AM)RobertN Wrote:(03-14-2013 10:37 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: Over the years people talk about Socialists, Communists etc., trying to take over the
Country, and others kind of laugh it off. But those radicals now run mainstream organizations
and are elected officials.
Find a mirror.
RE: Tell me McCarthy wasn't right - RobertN - 03-14-2013 01:02 PM
(03-14-2013 11:00 AM)Rebel Wrote:Thanks. I signed up with them and gave my life savings. dumb***. Nobody said there were no socialists, just that they weren't all over and taking the country over. It is just one of your paranoib delusions.(03-14-2013 10:42 AM)RobertN Wrote:(03-14-2013 10:37 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: Over the years people talk about Socialists, Communists etc., trying to take over the
Country, and others kind of laugh it off. But those radicals now run mainstream organizations
and are elected officials.
Do you realize how much of an ass you make out of yourself by not reading?
http://www.scribd.com/doc/35733956/DSA-Members-American-Socialist-Voter-Democratic-Socialists-of-America-10-1-09
RE: Tell me McCarthy wasn't right - AirRaid - 03-14-2013 01:04 PM
(03-14-2013 01:02 PM)RobertN Wrote:(03-14-2013 11:00 AM)Rebel Wrote:Thanks. I signed up with them and gave my life savings. dumb***. Nobody said there were no socialists, just that they weren't all over and taking the country over. It is just one of your paranoib delusions.(03-14-2013 10:42 AM)RobertN Wrote:(03-14-2013 10:37 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: Over the years people talk about Socialists, Communists etc., trying to take over the
Country, and others kind of laugh it off. But those radicals now run mainstream organizations
and are elected officials.
Do you realize how much of an ass you make out of yourself by not reading?
http://www.scribd.com/doc/35733956/DSA-Members-American-Socialist-Voter-Democratic-Socialists-of-America-10-1-09
+1
RE: Tell me McCarthy wasn't right - RobertN - 03-14-2013 01:08 PM
(03-14-2013 01:04 PM)AirRaid Wrote:You probably don't want to agree with me too often. It isn't good for your reputation here.(03-14-2013 01:02 PM)RobertN Wrote:(03-14-2013 11:00 AM)Rebel Wrote:Thanks. I signed up with them and gave my life savings. dumb***. Nobody said there were no socialists, just that they weren't all over and taking the country over. It is just one of your paranoib delusions.(03-14-2013 10:42 AM)RobertN Wrote:(03-14-2013 10:37 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: Over the years people talk about Socialists, Communists etc., trying to take over the
Country, and others kind of laugh it off. But those radicals now run mainstream organizations
and are elected officials.
Do you realize how much of an ass you make out of yourself by not reading?
http://www.scribd.com/doc/35733956/DSA-Members-American-Socialist-Voter-Democratic-Socialists-of-America-10-1-09
+1
RE: Tell me McCarthy wasn't right - UofMemphis - 03-14-2013 01:10 PM
Good night, and good luck...
RE: Tell me McCarthy wasn't right - Rebel - 03-14-2013 02:00 PM
(03-14-2013 01:02 PM)RobertN Wrote:(03-14-2013 11:00 AM)Rebel Wrote:Thanks. I signed up with them and gave my life savings. dumb***. Nobody said there were no socialists, just that they weren't all over and taking the country over. It is just one of your paranoib delusions.(03-14-2013 10:42 AM)RobertN Wrote:(03-14-2013 10:37 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: Over the years people talk about Socialists, Communists etc., trying to take over the
Country, and others kind of laugh it off. But those radicals now run mainstream organizations
and are elected officials.
Do you realize how much of an ass you make out of yourself by not reading?
http://www.scribd.com/doc/35733956/DSA-Members-American-Socialist-Voter-Democratic-Socialists-of-America-10-1-09
Really? Almost the entire Obama administration has Socialist ties as do many of his mentors, if not downright Communist. Then again, I see no f'n difference between a Communist and a Socialist. Same principle.
RE: Tell me McCarthy wasn't right - Smaug - 03-14-2013 02:01 PM
(03-14-2013 01:08 PM)RobertN Wrote: You probably don't want to agree with me too often. It isn't good for your reputation here.
He'll also be wrong a lot.
RE: Tell me McCarthy wasn't right - AirRaid - 03-14-2013 07:31 PM
(03-14-2013 02:00 PM)Rebel Wrote:(03-14-2013 01:02 PM)RobertN Wrote:(03-14-2013 11:00 AM)Rebel Wrote:Thanks. I signed up with them and gave my life savings. dumb***. Nobody said there were no socialists, just that they weren't all over and taking the country over. It is just one of your paranoib delusions.(03-14-2013 10:42 AM)RobertN Wrote:(03-14-2013 10:37 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: Over the years people talk about Socialists, Communists etc., trying to take over the
Country, and others kind of laugh it off. But those radicals now run mainstream organizations
and are elected officials.
Do you realize how much of an ass you make out of yourself by not reading?
http://www.scribd.com/doc/35733956/DSA-Members-American-Socialist-Voter-Democratic-Socialists-of-America-10-1-09
Really? Almost the entire Obama administration has Socialist ties as do many of his mentors, if not downright Communist. Then again, I see no f'n difference between a Communist and a Socialist. Same principle.
LOL....