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Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU? - billyoregon - 12-02-2012 04:55 PM
http://tracking.si.com/2012/12/01/pac-12-expansion-boise-state-san-diego-state/?sct=cf_t2_a15
RE: Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU? - Niner National - 12-02-2012 04:56 PM
If they can suck up their academic pride like the ACC did with the Louisville addition, they'd get excellent adds for both basketball and football.
RE: Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU? - TheEastisPurple - 12-02-2012 04:57 PM
(12-02-2012 04:55 PM)billyoregon Wrote: http://tracking.si.com/2012/12/01/pac-12-expansion-boise-state-san-diego-state/?sct=cf_t2_a15
If Boise State, good for them. If SDSU, talk about hitting the jackpot...
RE: Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU? - GrayBeard - 12-02-2012 04:59 PM
(12-02-2012 04:56 PM)Niner National Wrote: If they can suck up their academic pride like the ACC did with the Louisville addition, they'd get excellent adds for both basketball and football.
I don't see it happening. The two UC schools will not want to add a Cal State school.
RE: Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU? - Old Dominion Navy - 12-02-2012 05:19 PM
I can see Boise eventually but SDSU has already met their ceiling.
RE: Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU? - techdawg88 - 12-02-2012 05:29 PM
I really can't see the California schools wanting SDSU
RE: Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU? - GreenMississippi - 12-02-2012 05:52 PM
This isn't just a "no" but a "hell no". He was being nice about saying he was including them on a list.
RE: Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU? - billyoregon - 12-02-2012 05:54 PM
If......if.......the Pac-12 decides it needs to expand, there isn't much choice geographically between the ocean and the Big-12. There's BYU, but that would mark the admission of the Pac-12's first denominational school.
At very least, if Fresno and BYU were considering the possiblity of nBE, this could give them reason to pause
RE: Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU? - olliebaba - 12-02-2012 06:00 PM
It'll be UTEP. Bank on it.
ha,ha.
RE: Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU? - ECU-DMB Fanatic - 12-02-2012 06:10 PM
This is a classic case of an persons comments being taken out of context and completely blown out of proportion. The Pac 12 commissioner was asked about expansion and he said they had no plans and were happy at 12. Then he was specifically asked if they did expand would they possibly look at teams like Boise St and SDSU. And then he gave some PC answer as to not bash them in public...What was he supposed to say?? Hell no ???
Read his quote again and read between the lines...These schools do not meet all of the standards.
“When we expanded in the past we looked at them because they are prominent schools in the West, with very strong athletics programs, in markets we are not in,” Scott said when asked if those two schools would get a look, according to the San Diego Union-Tribune. ”There’s a lot of criteria that we looked at last time, that I’m sure we’d look at again. If we were to look at expanding again, I’m sure both those schools would be on the list. But, we don’t have any plans.”
RE: Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU? - techdawg88 - 12-02-2012 06:13 PM
PAC 12 to add Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma & OK St.
now back to reality, they will stay at 12
RE: Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU? - PurpleReigns - 12-03-2012 09:56 AM
If this happens just remember who said it first
http://www.csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=600771
RE: Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU? - blunderbuss - 12-03-2012 12:01 PM
I can't believe how many people on these boards actually think Boise to P12 is a remote possibility. Boise isn't too far removed from their roots as a community college, only has a handful of doctorate degrees and has under a $100M endowment. They've actually got a trucker school and other vocational programs.
Yeah, that's Pac 12 material right there.
RE: Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU? - Bluedawg10 - 12-03-2012 02:12 PM
The most Boise State can ever hope for is that the Big XII gets desperate and runs out of options. Otherwise it is nBE or MWC. SDSU has hit their peak in conference realignment.
RE: Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU? - Miner 2 da Bone - 12-03-2012 03:09 PM
BSU and SDSU will not be in the Pac 12.
The Pac 12 would take BYU and AFA before they take BSU and SDSU.
Go Miners...
RE: Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU? - PuddlePirate - 12-03-2012 04:54 PM
(12-03-2012 12:01 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: I can't believe how many people on these boards actually think Boise to P12 is a remote possibility. Boise isn't too far removed from their roots as a community college, only has a handful of doctorate degrees and has under a $100M endowment. They've actually got a trucker school and other vocational programs.
Not that I'm defending Boise, because I don't have a dog in the fight and generally couldn't care less, but where do you see vocational training and truck driver training listed as offerings? I looked after I read your post and maybe I'm missing someting but I don't see that. I work with a curriculum designer/ master training specialist who received his Masters from Boise and he's a pretty sharp fellow and very knowledgeable of the college game and not in an obnoxious way. So, if they do actually have those as offerings I would certainly not let it get past our next meeting without bringing it to his attention, in a good nature'd way. As I said, he's a decent dude so it'd be fun at the very least.
RE: Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU? - TodgeRodge - 12-03-2012 06:18 PM
(12-03-2012 04:54 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote:(12-03-2012 12:01 PM)blunderbuss Wrote: I can't believe how many people on these boards actually think Boise to P12 is a remote possibility. Boise isn't too far removed from their roots as a community college, only has a handful of doctorate degrees and has under a $100M endowment. They've actually got a trucker school and other vocational programs.
Not that I'm defending Boise, because I don't have a dog in the fight and generally couldn't care less, but where do you see vocational training and truck driver training listed as offerings? I looked after I read your post and maybe I'm missing someting but I don't see that. I work with a curriculum designer/ master training specialist who received his Masters from Boise and he's a pretty sharp fellow and very knowledgeable of the college game and not in an obnoxious way. So, if they do actually have those as offerings I would certainly not let it get past our next meeting without bringing it to his attention, in a good nature'd way. As I said, he's a decent dude so it'd be fun at the very least.
Boise had those programs in the past when they had a "college" that was set up for vocational and community college type training
since then a new community college has opened in Boise and that college was transferred from Boise State to the community college and Boise state has been able to move away from having a technical and vocational training mission
some people don't seem to be intelligent enough to understand that Idaho is a very large state in size with a very small population overall and so they are not going to have 30 different public universities, a community college system in every area of the state, and some vocational only 4 year schools as well
those same people don't seem to realize that Idaho is not broke like many of their states are and part of the reason for that is they did not build 12 public universities that are 6,000 to 8,000 students all trying to offer a large range of classes, plus a bunch of community colleges, and some technical/vocational schools that are all now suffering from lack of funding
Idaho has 3 public universities and a 4 year technical school and several state sponsored community colleges and Idaho State has some branch campuses and Boise started as a Jr College as well and was the school that grew enough to become the third state university
I am not saying that the Boise Academics compare to many or any of the PAC schools, but they have and continue to elevate themselves as their state grows and their budget allows VS being broke and not even knowing it like California and many other states that are slashing education massively yearly
and as for SDSU if it was not for the UC/Cal State PhD and other restrictions made by the "California Plan" in the 60s they would probably be extremely competitive with several Pac 12 schools if not better and they are extremely competitive as a university now research and education wise, but they lack the ability to offer anything but a very few PhD or Doctoral or professional degrees and that holds them back greatly
at this point it is probably a moot point for the state of California overall because they are broke and will not be funding any school to elevate themselves especially CSU schools, but if SDSU would be even better with just a part of the funding the UC schools get and with the ability to offer PhDs.....the same can be said for Cal Ploy as well and Fresno and SJSU as well
RE: Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU? - Old Dominion Navy - 12-03-2012 06:30 PM
Ya beat me to it Todge. I was about to write the same thing about Boise.
RE: Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU? - C2__ - 12-03-2012 08:08 PM
Boise and their alums should pressure the state into joining the UI system then becoming the flagship. It would be the only way to get the funding and respect on the academic side that is already there for parts of the athletic program.
RE: Pac-12 Dangling Bait for BSU and SDSU? - cocky - 12-04-2012 01:37 AM
(12-02-2012 06:13 PM)techdawg88 Wrote: PAC 12 to add Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma & OK St.
now back to reality, they will stay at 12
Don't see Pac-12 and Texas agreeing on the Longhorn Network. Otherwise, that would be believable.