(06-08-2016 06:24 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  Very glad to have this amazing donation from the Barry family. One question I have is it seems that it's going to be built where the new administration building was going to be built. This is the one that was going to replace Koch and would house student services along with admin space. I wonder where that's going to go now. Unfortunately we don't really have that much space to be moving buildings around willy nilly.

I also wonder why they didn't put it with the rest of the arts district at ODU. It would've fit perfectly next to the Goode theatre, the new arts building and what will eventually be the new performance hall for Music and Fine Arts majors. It also would've been across from the 2 ponds/fountains so that would've been a nice view. Right now it looks like this amazing museum is going to wedged between a McDonalds, a parking garage, a basketball stadium and a fire station. It also looks to be a fairly small building on a larger tract of land. Maybe they'll wedge a taller but thinner admin building between it and the parking garage? I hope that this museum is a good land use for that area.

Looking at the Master Plan, the administration and student services together would have provided around 90,000 square feet of space, while this art museum will only provide 24,000 square feet of space. This would be fine if they just built 2 buildings in that space but from the pictures it looks like it takes up the whole plot of land. I wonder how that affects the replacement of the Koch building, and how that in turn affects the construction of our stadium if we build the new one at Foreman. If we can't get Koch replaced, can we get Foreman Field expanded?

As I said, very happy for the amazing gift, but the placement on our land-strapped campus confuses me.

(06-06-2016 06:52 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  Yes. I guess the more accurate terminology would be "the building that will be on the current footprint of the chemistry and planetarium buildings".

Also, you ever go to UrbanPlanet.org? It's got this kinda stuff but for cities. I'm super into master plans too and this site seemed to fulfill that for a while.

Hampton Roads board: https://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/forum/342-hampton-roads/

Norfolk board: https://www.urbanplanet.org/forums/forum/226-norfolk/

(06-08-2016 08:23 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  Why block the TED. Can't they do at the SE corner of 43rd and Hampton blvd. The last i have seen there's no construction on it things could've changed though.

(06-08-2016 08:29 AM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(06-08-2016 08:23 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  Why block the TED. Can't they do at the SE corner of 43rd and Hampton blvd. The last i have seen there's no construction on it things could've changed though.

That was just my reading of the article, I could easily be wrong. As Blue_Trombone said, the corner you mentioned is the proposed site of the future replacement for Koch Hall. I suppose both buildings could be built on that lot as well.

(06-08-2016 08:33 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  

(06-08-2016 08:29 AM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  

(06-08-2016 08:23 AM)12thmonarch Wrote:  Why block the TED. Can't they do at the SE corner of 43rd and Hampton blvd. The last i have seen there's no construction on it things could've changed though.

That was just my reading of the article, I could easily be wrong. As Blue_Trombone said, the corner you mentioned is the proposed site of the future replacement for Koch Hall. I suppose both buildings could be built on that lot as well.

Thanks PB that makes sense and yes that lot is definitely big enough to accommodate both koch and the new museum. I wish we had some land near the art scene on the campus, corner of 47 th and Hampton the site of current Nursing department. Well what can we do such is the life of an urban school.

(06-08-2016 12:14 AM)nakas12 Wrote:  http://pilotonline.com/news/local/education/higher-education/barry-family-gives-odu-largest-donation-in-school-s-history/article_eb508a16-461e-52c7-a531-c794f6ddd4bd.html

Barry family gives the biggest donation in ODU history! New art museum will be built in 2017-2018.

(06-08-2016 10:45 AM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  saunders + crouse is the firm that designed the new "Glass Wheel Gallery" in the NEON District. They did a great job with that building.

(06-08-2016 11:53 AM)GhentFan Wrote:  Might not be related but Channel 13 is on the corner of 45th and Hampton right now setting up. Wrong intersection if they are going to talk about the new building. Didn't see if channel 3 was on 43rd already.

(06-08-2016 10:11 AM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  Here is a rendering of the new museum from architects saunders + crouse.



It will be on the lot next to the proposed replacement of Koch Hall, not directly next to a McDonalds.

(06-08-2016 07:01 AM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  ^^^ The article says the new museum will be "adjacent" to the Ted Constant Center, and across from the new Education Building, so it sounds like they might be putting it on the Ted side of that corner. They would have to relocate the box office, but there is enough space. The museum will be 24K sq. ft., and the Mitchum Basketball Facility is going to be 25k sq. ft.

Broderick said they chose to build it on Hampton Blvd. for increased visibility of that site..

(06-08-2016 12:26 PM)GhentFan Wrote:  

(06-08-2016 10:11 AM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  Here is a rendering of the new museum from architects saunders + crouse.



It will be on the lot next to the proposed replacement of Koch Hall, not directly next to a McDonalds.

If it is going right along the Ted, will it fit?