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Obama admin. says there was no "actionable intelligence", BUT WAIT......REALLY? - SumOfAllFears - 09-15-2012 09:10 AM
Diplomatic Posts Targeted Repeatedly In Benghazi Prior to Deadly Assault
While Obama administration claims there was no actionable intelligence that could have stopped the assault on the US Consulate in Libya, there was a heightened threat in the area due to four attacks on diplomatic, western targets leading up to the murder of Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three others.
While the Obama administration says there was no "actionable intelligence" foreshadowing the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Libya, there were at least four attacks on diplomatic and western targets in Benghazi leading up to the murder of the U.S. ambassador.
“This (the U.S. Consulate) was a place that was targeted months before with an IED (improvised explosive device)," Rep. Mike Rogers, chairman of the House intelligence committee who has been briefed on the attack and investigation, told Fox News. “It's clearly a target that they wanted to hit and they wanted to cause casualties. ... It's just too many coincidences here”
On June 6, an IED was thrown at the perimeter of the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi. On June 11, the British ambassador's motorcade came under attack by a rocket-propelled grenade, or RPG. Two security personnel were injured. Seven days later, on June 18, armed gunmen attacked the Tunisian consulate and burned its flag. And on Aug. 5, five weeks before the assault on the U.S. Consulate, the International Committee of the Red Cross building in Benghazi was also struck by RPGs.
On Friday, the chairman and ranking members of the Senate homeland security committee, Joe Lieberman and Susan Collins, sent a letter to the State Department inspector general requesting an investigation into the U.S. Consulate’s security posture at the time of the attack. The letter specifically references the previous attacks in June on the consulate and the British ambassador’s convoy, adding:
“Does the risk assessment process consider the capacity or lack thereof of the host country to provide security? Did the Libyan government request or suggest that security could be improved at the Benghazi facility prior to September 12th, 2010?”
A spokesman for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the nation’s top intelligence officials, said “actionable intelligence would have meant that we either saw or heard something, through intelligence collection, that told us that a specific act was being planned or was imminent. As I have said, we are not aware of any actionable intelligence related to the attack in Benghazi.”
But a former official with the Bush administration said the Obama White House appeared to be dodging the real issue. “This definition relies on the notion that action is only taken to prevent a specific plot where we know the time, place and even method of attack. Action can be, and is taken, to increase security when more general threats, like what we saw this summer in Benghzai, are known,” the former official said.
Asked if the four attacks prior to the ambassador’s murder were briefed to the president as part of the highly classified daily briefing which details threats against the U.S. homeland and U.S. interests, there was no immediate response from the ODNI nor the spokesman for the National Security Council.
Given the heightened threat picture, the former Bush administration official questioned whether more aggressive precautionary measures should have been taken at diplomatic missions even though the intelligence was apparently not specific. “President Bush was criticized for being disengaged before 9/11, but given what we all know now about the terrorist threat, there is no excuse for lacking engagement or focus on the persistent threats to U.S. personnel in North Africa.”
RE: Obama admin. says there was no "actionable intelligence", BUT WAIT...... - boss man - 09-15-2012 09:27 AM
Please be patient. I am sure our reliable and trustworthy US media will fully investigate these intelligence reports and bring it to the light of day, and confront Obama with it. No way they would ignore this, right?
RE: Obama admin. says there was no "actionable intelligence", BUT WAIT...... - SumOfAllFears - 09-15-2012 09:33 AM
There was not enough intelligence to beef up Embassy security on the anniversary 911? Are you f'*king kidding me? The MSMedia continue to bombard the citizenry with propaganda, and the lefters just lick it up, from the feet of the one. Lefters response "yea, we'll go with that"
RE: Obama admin. says there was no "actionable intelligence", BUT WAIT......REALLY? - Owl 69/70/75 - 09-15-2012 09:51 AM
What this report does is corroborate what the Independent printed a couple of days ago. You remember, the story that the leftists said was bogus.
http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=587512&pid=8266961#pid8266961
Just so everyone understands, "actionable intelligence" means we get a corroborated source telling us that Johnny is going to blow up the XYZ Tower at noon on the 22nd of September. Who, what, when, where. Anything less specific is not "actionable intelligence." This has always been the mantra regarding 9/11--we didn't have "actionable intelligence." But we had plenty of reason to believe there was a problem, anyone with common sense would figure that likely targets of any terrorist action would be the World Trade Center and Washington, DC (and I would have included Chicago and Los Angeles, too), anyone with common sense would figure out that it would be a good idea to have someone in an upgraded state of readiness to respond, and anyone with common sense would figure out that with all the noise about airports and airplanes circulating through the rumors, it might be a good idea to beef up airport security and have some Air Force units ready to respond in a hurry around the threat areas. Then when flights started being hijacked (if they somehow got past your upgraded airport security), you put those units into action and defend those assets. I knew enough to know that much, and my TS clearance had not been active since I retired in 1992.
This ain't rocket science. Wasn't then, isn't now.
RE: Obama admin. says there was no "actionable intelligence", BUT WAIT......REALLY? - Ninerfan1 - 09-15-2012 09:57 AM
(09-15-2012 09:51 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: What this report does is corroborate what the Independent printed a couple of days ago. You remember, the story that the leftists said was bogus.
http://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=587512&pid=8266961#pid8266961
If there was a Republican in the WH this would be leading every news show, the first topic on every Sunday show tomorrow and would consume the new cycle every week between now and the first debate.
But I'm betting since the media are so invested in seeing Obama reelected it will get little to no coverage at all.
RE: Obama admin. says there was no "actionable intelligence", BUT WAIT......REALLY? - SumOfAllFears - 09-15-2012 11:11 AM
The complicity of the MSmedia is astounding.
WH says the movie was to blame and attack was not co-ordinated.
WH says attacks were not terrorists.
Feds detain author of movie.
RE: Obama admin. says there was no "actionable intelligence", BUT WAIT......REALLY? - WoodlandsOwl - 09-15-2012 03:09 PM
I honesty think the "chatter" about the impending threats was ignored because the Administration wants to declare Al Qaeda "dead" to facilitate the withdraw from Afghanistan.
AQ-Core may be degraded, but the various "Franchises" that have been set up in every Arab Country are alive and kicking and emboldened by the Arab Spring.
Too bad General Atomics, the manufacturer of the Predator and Reaper Drones, is a private company. I'd buy their stock in a heart beat.
RE: Obama admin. says there was no "actionable intelligence", BUT WAIT......REALLY? - Ninerfan1 - 09-15-2012 03:27 PM
(09-15-2012 03:09 PM)WMD Owl Wrote: I honesty think the "chatter" about the impending threats was ignored because the Administration wants to declare Al Qaeda "dead" to facilitate the withdraw from Afghanistan.
AQ-Core may be degraded, but the various "Franchises" that have been set up in every Arab Country are alive and kicking and emboldened by the Arab Spring.
Too bad General Atomics, the manufacturer of the Predator and Reaper Drones, is a private company. I'd buy their stock in a heart beat.
I think Obama just believes his own bullsh!t. He honestly believed that he could just talk to the Muslim world and the mere beauty of his words and his delivery would change the realities that have existed in the Middle East for a few dozen centuries.
Libya and Egypt falling were gifts to the radicals because we made clear we didn't want to be involved in any way with what happened after. It's clear to them Obama wants nothing to do with the ME, so that emboldens them.