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Nearly 3x more new food stamp recipients than people who found jobs in June - BlazerFan11 - 09-04-2012 09:53 AM
Quote:Following a brief period in which it seemed that US foodstamp recipients may have peaked, with those living in poverty maxing out at 46.514 million in December 2011, and then declining modestly for the next few months, June saw a new surge in those Americans living in poverty and thus eligible for foodstamps, with 173,600 new entrants into the system, bringing the total to a new all time high of 46.670 million and once again rising fast. Furthermore, with subsequent emergency events affecting the heartland due to the drought, the administration has made sure even more Americans will be eligible going forward. As a result expect the July and August numbers to promptly surpass 47 million on their way to the psychological resistance level of 50 million. Indicatively, the 173,600 increase in Foodstamps recipients in June was three times greater than Americans finding jobs (64,000, most of which part-time) according to the BLS. Finally, a new record was also breached for American households on foodstamps, which now hit 22.4 million, an increase of 106,298 households.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/june-foodstamp-recipients-hit-all-time-high-three-times-many-americans-enter-poverty-find-jobs
http://www.fns.usda.gov/pd/34SNAPmonthly.htm
Welcome to the recovery.
RE: Nearly 3x more new food stamp recipients than people who found jobs in June - RobertN - 09-04-2012 10:05 AM
Ok. So if there are no jobs to be had and one doesn't have money coming in why is it surprising that there would be a lot of people going on food stamps? Do you think they should just starve(ok, dumb question, that is exactly what you want)?
RE: Nearly 3x more new food stamp recipients than people who found jobs in June - Smaug - 09-04-2012 10:13 AM
Swing and a miss.
RE: Nearly 3x more new food stamp recipients than people who found jobs in June - RobertN - 09-04-2012 10:37 AM
(09-04-2012 10:13 AM)Smaug Wrote: Swing and a miss.Please explain how I was wrong.
RE: Nearly 3x more new food stamp recipients than people who found jobs in June - ummechengr - 09-04-2012 10:45 AM
(09-04-2012 10:37 AM)RobertN Wrote:(09-04-2012 10:13 AM)Smaug Wrote: Swing and a miss.Please explain how I was wrong.
Try Google.
RE: Nearly 3x more new food stamp recipients than people who found jobs in June - BleedsHuskieRed - 09-04-2012 10:52 AM
(09-04-2012 10:05 AM)RobertN Wrote: Ok. So if there are no jobs to be had and one doesn't have money coming in why is it surprising that there would be a lot of people going on food stamps? Do you think they should just starve(ok, dumb question, that is exactly what you want)?I don't think he is saying it's a surprise, I think he is using it to refute the evidence that the economy is improving.
RE: Nearly 3x more new food stamp recipients than people who found jobs in June - DrTorch - 09-04-2012 07:04 PM
Its ok, according to rwt, thats helping the economy too.
RE: Nearly 3x more new food stamp recipients than people who found jobs in June - UConn-SMU - 09-04-2012 08:19 PM
(09-04-2012 10:05 AM)RobertN Wrote: Ok. So if there are no jobs to be had and one doesn't have money coming in why is it surprising that there would be a lot of people going on food stamps? Do you think they should just starve(ok, dumb question, that is exactly what you want)?
If Obama would stop attacking the private sector, maybe some jobs would appear. Obama has scared companies into paralysis - they're afraid to hire and expand.
Until the Demorcats are voted out, our current economy is "the new normal".
RE: Nearly 3x more new food stamp recipients than people who found jobs in June - DaSaintFan - 09-04-2012 08:22 PM
.. but, but.. we have all those "jobs that were created in the private sector" U-S!
RE: Nearly 3x more new food stamp recipients than people who found jobs in June - THE NC Herd Fan - 09-04-2012 08:25 PM
(09-04-2012 10:05 AM)RobertN Wrote: Ok. So if there are no jobs to be had and one doesn't have money coming in why is it surprising that there would be a lot of people going on food stamps? Do you think they should just starve(ok, dumb question, that is exactly what you want)?
But if America is better off NOW than four years ago as Obama and da democrats are TELLING people then the number of food stamp recipients should be going down and the number of new jobs UP, RIGHT?
RE: Nearly 3x more new food stamp recipients than people who found jobs in June - boss man - 09-04-2012 08:35 PM
The private sector is "doing well". Obama said so!!
I look forward to the COTUS zealots speaking this week in Charlotte defending these sterling economic achievements by their master in his 1st term:
- 42 straight months of 8.0% unemployment or higher
- Record food stamp enrollment
- 23,000,000 Americans either UNemployed or UNDERemployed.
- the passage of ObamaCare which taxes for a service they may not want and also will strangle private companies with extra bureacracy and fees while reducing the level of service by health care providers
- the crushing debt increase of $5.4 TRILLION since COTUS assumed office
- the downgrade of U.S. credit for the first time EVER
- the bailout of GM to appease the union vote sector that is losing money; the USA can only get repaid if the GM stock hits around $58.00...it is currently around $29.
- bailing out Solydra (sp) that led to jobs going overseas and is being investigated
- failing to reduce the corporate tax rate which stands at 38%, the highest on the planet
RE: Nearly 3x more new food stamp recipients than people who found jobs in June - Fo Shizzle - 09-04-2012 08:37 PM
The Democrats playbook is working. The more people you make dependent upon you...the more votes you get. GOOD WORK
RE: Nearly 3x more new food stamp recipients than people who found jobs in June - UConn-SMU - 09-04-2012 08:49 PM
(09-04-2012 08:37 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: The Democrats playbook is working. The more people you make dependent upon you...the more votes you get. GOOD WORK
That's the scary thing ... we've reached a tipping point where 50%+ are receiving benefits from Washington. So an honest politician that proposes "responsible, limited government" will have no chance of getting elected.
What did Franklin say about our democracy? It will last until the people find out they can vote themselves money out of the treasury? Something like that.
RE: Nearly 3x more new food stamp recipients than people who found jobs in June - Fo Shizzle - 09-04-2012 08:53 PM
(09-04-2012 08:49 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:(09-04-2012 08:37 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: The Democrats playbook is working. The more people you make dependent upon you...the more votes you get. GOOD WORK
That's the scary thing ... we've reached a tipping point where 50%+ are receiving benefits from Washington. So an honest politician that proposes "responsible, limited government" will have no chance of getting elected.
What did Franklin say about our democracy? It will last until the people find out they can vote themselves money out of the treasury? Something like that.
Stick a fork in America if Obama is re elected....Hell...I may not even really matter. We may well be done anyway.
RE: Nearly 3x more new food stamp recipients than people who found jobs in June - Owl 69/70/75 - 09-04-2012 09:38 PM
(09-04-2012 08:53 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:(09-04-2012 08:49 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:Stick a fork in America if Obama is re elected....Hell...I may not even really matter. We may well be done anyway.(09-04-2012 08:37 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: The Democrats playbook is working. The more people you make dependent upon you...the more votes you get. GOOD WORKThat's the scary thing ... we've reached a tipping point where 50%+ are receiving benefits from Washington. So an honest politician that proposes "responsible, limited government" will have no chance of getting elected.
What did Franklin say about our democracy? It will last until the people find out they can vote themselves money out of the treasury? Something like that.
I think we're far enough gone that Romney won't fix it. Gary Johnson is the only person who goes far enough to fix it.
RE: Nearly 3x more new food stamp recipients than people who found jobs in June - smn1256 - 09-04-2012 10:31 PM
(09-04-2012 10:05 AM)RobertN Wrote: Ok. So if there are no jobs to be had and one doesn't have money coming in why is it surprising that there would be a lot of people going on food stamps? Do you think they should just starve(ok, dumb question, that is exactly what you want)?
According to either Max or Tom we've added jobs every month since obama seized power and over threw the Constitution. If that's true, then either people are scamming the system or the job growth numbers are wrong.
RE: Nearly 3x more new food stamp recipients than people who found jobs in June - smn1256 - 09-04-2012 11:58 PM
(09-04-2012 10:05 AM)RobertN Wrote: Ok. So if there are no jobs to be had and one doesn't have money coming in why is it surprising that there would be a lot of people going on food stamps? Do you think they should just starve(ok, dumb question, that is exactly what you want)?
But the mayor of San Antonio just told the world Obama created 4.5 million new jobs. So why the food stamp increase? And if true, why do we still have 27,000,000 unwmployed?
How can you, on one hand, make excuses why there are no jobs while claiming to be creating them?
RE: Nearly 3x more new food stamp recipients than people who found jobs in June - RobertN - 09-05-2012 12:37 AM
(09-04-2012 10:31 PM)smn1256 Wrote:(09-04-2012 10:05 AM)RobertN Wrote: Ok. So if there are no jobs to be had and one doesn't have money coming in why is it surprising that there would be a lot of people going on food stamps? Do you think they should just starve(ok, dumb question, that is exactly what you want)?
According to either Max or Tom we've added jobs every month since obama seized power and over threw the Constitution. If that's true, then either people are scamming the system or the job growth numbers are wrong.
We have but not enough to really dent the unemployment.
RE: Nearly 3x more new food stamp recipients than people who found jobs in June - RobertN - 09-05-2012 12:43 AM
(09-04-2012 11:58 PM)smn1256 Wrote:I am completely confused by your post. I think you answered the question in your response. 4.5 million created and 27 million unemployed. So there are still lots of people out of work. Many of those still out of work are now on food stamps. It isn't difficult to understand for someone who can actually think. Which explains why you don't understand.(09-04-2012 10:05 AM)RobertN Wrote: Ok. So if there are no jobs to be had and one doesn't have money coming in why is it surprising that there would be a lot of people going on food stamps? Do you think they should just starve(ok, dumb question, that is exactly what you want)?
But the mayor of San Antonio just told the world Obama created 4.5 million new jobs. So why the food stamp increase? And if true, why do we still have 27,000,000 unwmployed?
How can you, on one hand, make excuses why there are no jobs while claiming to be creating them?
RE: Nearly 3x more new food stamp recipients than people who found jobs in June - boss man - 09-05-2012 08:18 AM
Let's assume the 4.5mm jobs created argument is true. Let me blow some holes in it.
Obama has been in office 43 months. So the average is just over 100,000 jobs are being created each month. Yet how many months have we had one larger total reported and then the CBO comes back a month later and revises it DOWNWARD? Quite often.
Plus most economists have pointed out that a minimum of 250,000 jobs per month must be created for about 4 years to get back to normal. I might be understating that total; I believe Owl69 and others can cite the specific numbers necessary for a FULL recovery.
Third, the jobs lost were career level jobs. Most of the jobs being created are at McDonald's, Walmart, or entry level clerk jobs. People were in careers making $40-70k before they got laid off/downsized/etc and now are desperately taking jobs at McDonalds, landscaping companies, etc. 60 Minutes had a piece on this about 3 weeks ago. Not to mention college graduates are not finding good work and are waiting tables, mowing lawns, etc.
NEWS FLASH to DNC - A lot of Americans are REALLY hurting due to the lack of jobs! They have used the maximum 99 week unemployment benefits, exhausted their savings, cashed out their IRAS, sold their homes, and many are on the edge of HOPELESSNESS with ZERO alternatives. There are American citizens reduced to living in their vehicles in public parks, washing in public bathrooms, and taking any odd job they can just to get food for the day. They look at Obama and see a person who has FAILED to deliver and exacerbated the problem with his poor decisions (bail outs, slashing domestic and off shore drilling, ObamaCare, escalating debt, major food stamp dependency, unemployment above 8% for virtually all of his term, etc.). All they hear from the President are excuses about how hard it was stepping into this job and his incessant tendency of blaming Bush...as usual.
Excuses are for losers. Obama is a loser.
The Dems are very carefully cherrypicking the few statistics that make Obama and his band of incompetents look good. I eagerly await answers to the issues I posed in post # 11. Will any of that be addressed in Charlotte by anyone? I doubt it.
Yet Obama has the gall to stand before America and say he is DESERVING of a second term.