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Four More Years of This?? - bearcat65 - 08-17-2012 01:07 PM
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/obamas-term-in-office-has-been-a-success-if-you-measure-success-by-government-dependency/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+SayAnything+%28Say+Anything%29&utm_content=Google+Reader
More welfare recipients, more food stamp recipients, more social security disability recipients, and less earnings for the proposed tax increase targets to pay for it all. How is this sustainable?
RE: Four More Years of This?? - smn1256 - 08-17-2012 07:07 PM
Quote:A 10 million person increase in the number of individuals receiving welfare, to 107 million, or more than one-third of the U.S. population;
Holy crap, can that be true?
RE: Four More Years of This?? - Fo Shizzle - 08-17-2012 07:10 PM
(08-17-2012 07:07 PM)smn1256 Wrote:Quote:A 10 million person increase in the number of individuals receiving welfare, to 107 million, or more than one-third of the U.S. population;
Holy crap, can that be true?
I call fabrics. That can't be correct. If it is?...WE ARE DONE.
RE: Four More Years of This?? - Paul M - 08-18-2012 08:31 AM
Welfare Statistics
That 107 million must be including other forms of government assistance.
RE: Four More Years of This?? - maximus - 08-18-2012 08:52 AM
(08-18-2012 08:31 AM)Paul M Wrote: Welfare Statistics
That 107 million must be including other forms of government assistance.
It doesn't include Medicare or SS IIRC
RE: Four More Years of This?? - Fo Shizzle - 08-18-2012 08:56 AM
(08-18-2012 08:31 AM)Paul M Wrote: Welfare Statistics
That 107 million must be including other forms of government assistance.
Yes.
BTW...Those stats are disturbing. Teachers make less than someone on welfare in 9 States?
RE: Four More Years of This?? - RobertN - 08-18-2012 10:46 AM
(08-18-2012 08:56 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:Yeah well those stats must be wrong becauses as you Coservalibertatians continually tell us teachers make unholy amounts of money.(08-18-2012 08:31 AM)Paul M Wrote: Welfare Statistics
That 107 million must be including other forms of government assistance.
Yes.
BTW...Those stats are disturbing. Teachers make less than someone on welfare in 9 States?
RE: Four More Years of This?? - Fo Shizzle - 08-18-2012 11:06 AM
(08-18-2012 10:46 AM)RobertN Wrote:(08-18-2012 08:56 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:Yeah well those stats must be wrong becauses as you Coservalibertatians continually tell us teachers make unholy amounts of money.(08-18-2012 08:31 AM)Paul M Wrote: Welfare Statistics
That 107 million must be including other forms of government assistance.
Yes.
BTW...Those stats are disturbing. Teachers make less than someone on welfare in 9 States?
You fail again. I could care less how much people make. Unlike you...I defer to the market to set the wage...not the force of government. Cars would not cost 30K in my world.
RE: Four More Years of This?? - TOGC - 08-18-2012 11:08 AM
(08-18-2012 11:06 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:(08-18-2012 10:46 AM)RobertN Wrote:(08-18-2012 08:56 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:Yeah well those stats must be wrong becauses as you Coservalibertatians continually tell us teachers make unholy amounts of money.(08-18-2012 08:31 AM)Paul M Wrote: Welfare Statistics
That 107 million must be including other forms of government assistance.
Yes.
BTW...Those stats are disturbing. Teachers make less than someone on welfare in 9 States?
You fail again. I could care less how much people make. Unlike you...I defer to the market to set the wage...not the force of government. Cars would not cost 30K in my world.
Yeah, they'd cost 50K because they wouldn't give a damn about the public.
Unrestricted capitalism has been proven to be a failure. It results in a feudalistic system with no protections for the public or the workers.
RE: Four More Years of This?? - THE NC Herd Fan - 08-18-2012 11:18 AM
Not four more years of this, Obama doesn't have to worry about re-election it will be much worse if he gets four more years. Congress will not be an obstacle to Obama's plan to remake the US in his image.
RE: Four More Years of This?? - Paul M - 08-18-2012 11:20 AM
(08-18-2012 10:46 AM)RobertN Wrote:(08-18-2012 08:56 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:Yeah well those stats must be wrong becauses as you Coservalibertatians continually tell us teachers make unholy amounts of money.(08-18-2012 08:31 AM)Paul M Wrote: Welfare Statistics
That 107 million must be including other forms of government assistance.
Yes.
BTW...Those stats are disturbing. Teachers make less than someone on welfare in 9 States?
Even if I or anyone think teachers are over paid, they should still receive more than someone who does nothing. Anyone who works should.
Doesn't it po you that there are people in your neighborhood/building doing better than you who do nothing?
RE: Four More Years of This?? - THE NC Herd Fan - 08-18-2012 11:20 AM
(08-17-2012 07:10 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:(08-17-2012 07:07 PM)smn1256 Wrote:Quote:A 10 million person increase in the number of individuals receiving welfare, to 107 million, or more than one-third of the U.S. population;
Holy crap, can that be true?
I call fabrics. That can't be correct. If it is?...WE ARE DONE.
What's worse is his bragging he created 4million jobs but doesn't mention the 10million new welfare families.
RE: Four More Years of This?? - TheDancinMonarch - 08-18-2012 12:05 PM
(08-18-2012 11:18 AM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote: Not four more years of this, Obama doesn't have to worry about re-election it will be much worse if he gets four more years. Congress will not be an obstacle to Obama's plan to remake the US in his image.
Quite a deal. I always wanted to be a Kenyan and win the marathon in the Olympics.
RE: Four More Years of This?? - smn1256 - 08-18-2012 12:51 PM
(08-18-2012 11:08 AM)TOGC Wrote: Unrestricted capitalism has been proven to be a failure. It results in a feudalistic system with no protections for the public or the workers.
what proof are you offering up because I'm calling BS on this.
RE: Four More Years of This?? - TOGC - 08-18-2012 12:59 PM
(08-18-2012 12:51 PM)smn1256 Wrote:(08-18-2012 11:08 AM)TOGC Wrote: Unrestricted capitalism has been proven to be a failure. It results in a feudalistic system with no protections for the public or the workers.
what proof are you offering up because I'm calling BS on this.
Then I call BS on everything ever posted by a conservative in the Spin Room.
RE: Four More Years of This?? - Fo Shizzle - 08-18-2012 01:03 PM
(08-18-2012 12:51 PM)smn1256 Wrote:(08-18-2012 11:08 AM)TOGC Wrote: Unrestricted capitalism has been proven to be a failure. It results in a feudalistic system with no protections for the public or the workers.
what proof are you offering up because I'm calling BS on this.
First off...There is no such thing as unrestricted capitalism and there never has been. The concept of consumer choice and market signals is lost of Progs. Evidently government education is lacking on basic economics.
RE: Four More Years of This?? - TOGC - 08-18-2012 01:05 PM
(08-18-2012 01:03 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:(08-18-2012 12:51 PM)smn1256 Wrote:(08-18-2012 11:08 AM)TOGC Wrote: Unrestricted capitalism has been proven to be a failure. It results in a feudalistic system with no protections for the public or the workers.
what proof are you offering up because I'm calling BS on this.
First off...There is no such thing as unrestricted capitalism and there never has been. The concept of consumer choice and market signals is lost of Progs. Evidently government education is lacking on basic economics.
Laissez faire capitalism is a failed concept and people who believe otherwise are completely wrong.
RE: Four More Years of This?? - Fo Shizzle - 08-18-2012 01:18 PM
(08-18-2012 01:05 PM)TOGC Wrote:(08-18-2012 01:03 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:(08-18-2012 12:51 PM)smn1256 Wrote:(08-18-2012 11:08 AM)TOGC Wrote: Unrestricted capitalism has been proven to be a failure. It results in a feudalistic system with no protections for the public or the workers.
what proof are you offering up because I'm calling BS on this.
First off...There is no such thing as unrestricted capitalism and there never has been. The concept of consumer choice and market signals is lost of Progs. Evidently government education is lacking on basic economics.
Laissez faire capitalism is a failed concept and people who believe otherwise are completely wrong.
Again...That does not and never has existed. It is just a talking point used to justify government intervention. Usually it is simply crony capitalists using the force of government to inhibit competition. The consumer is perfectly capable of regulating the marketplace. The problem is...they rarely get to prove it.
RE: Four More Years of This?? - RobertN - 08-18-2012 01:29 PM
(08-18-2012 01:03 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:It is lost on us because we live in reality not some fantasy world.(08-18-2012 12:51 PM)smn1256 Wrote:(08-18-2012 11:08 AM)TOGC Wrote: Unrestricted capitalism has been proven to be a failure. It results in a feudalistic system with no protections for the public or the workers.
what proof are you offering up because I'm calling BS on this.
First off...There is no such thing as unrestricted capitalism and there never has been. The concept of consumer choice and market signals is lost of Progs. Evidently government education is lacking on basic economics.
RE: Four More Years of This?? - TOGC - 08-18-2012 01:33 PM
(08-18-2012 01:18 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:(08-18-2012 01:05 PM)TOGC Wrote:(08-18-2012 01:03 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:(08-18-2012 12:51 PM)smn1256 Wrote:(08-18-2012 11:08 AM)TOGC Wrote: Unrestricted capitalism has been proven to be a failure. It results in a feudalistic system with no protections for the public or the workers.
what proof are you offering up because I'm calling BS on this.
First off...There is no such thing as unrestricted capitalism and there never has been. The concept of consumer choice and market signals is lost of Progs. Evidently government education is lacking on basic economics.
Laissez faire capitalism is a failed concept and people who believe otherwise are completely wrong.
Again...That does not and never has existed. It is just a talking point used to justify government intervention. Usually it is simply crony capitalists using the force of government to inhibit competition. The consumer is perfectly capable of regulating the marketplace. The problem is...they rarely get to prove it.
That is an outright lie.
Laissez faire capitalism inhibits competition. When one group becomes a large enough monopoly, there is nothing that can be done to stop it. That group will control enough of the resouces and the market that they can dictate terms that the public will be forced to accept.