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RE: CUSA appears to be expanding again in the near future.... - EdisonDoyle - 07-28-2012 10:03 AM (07-28-2012 07:18 AM)WeatherfordMeanGreen Wrote: No more Texas-based schools. We don't want to become a little Southwest Conference within CUSA. We also do not want to water down our Lone Star State/CUSA product and give any semblance of a recruiting edge to any school presently not in CUSA or those on the way. I don't think Brit Banowsky has Texas in mind for any potential expansion whatsoever. Most from CUSA have already expressed on this board this>>>>>>>>>NO MORE SCHOOLS FROM TEXAS. Most all of us from Texas concur.I agree with no more schools from Texas. But no more schools from the deep south either (except maybe a Florida school). It's a highly saturated area already. As for the BE, C-USA's awfully spread out too. the BE will get a better TV deal than us. So, it's hard to understand how C-USA can survive and the BE fail...any greater travel costs they have will be offset by TV deal. RE: CUSA appears to be expanding again in the near future.... - Ned Low - 07-28-2012 10:09 AM (07-27-2012 11:38 PM)Tulsafanzz Wrote: Now that MWC Commissioner Craig Thompson says the alliance is dead & talks of MWC expansion in to Texas, it may be time for Banowsky & CUSA to be proactive. THIS. You could also Fresno and SJSU to the West, move Tulsa or Rice East to have two 10-team divisions. We need to think out of the box and this will be the way to go. RE: CUSA appears to be expanding again in the near future.... - Saint Greg - 07-28-2012 10:54 AM (07-28-2012 03:18 AM)randaddyminer Wrote:(07-28-2012 03:11 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:(07-28-2012 01:42 AM)randaddyminer Wrote: We should have just merged when both conferences had 8 teams and which ever conference was going to receive less in exit fees and ncaa credits, that conference would merge into the other and just viewed as a sunk cost. And you would've gone for the markets. RE: CUSA appears to be expanding again in the near future.... - LR Eagle - 07-28-2012 10:55 AM (07-28-2012 09:59 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:(07-28-2012 05:45 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:(07-27-2012 11:45 PM)GCEagle Wrote: Might as well add a bunch of garbage teams, this conference could not possibly get any worse. This. I've said it before, my disgust with this conference is approaching the point where just giving up and playing FCS would be cool with me. RE: CUSA appears to be expanding again in the near future.... - BamaScorpio69 - 07-28-2012 11:00 AM (07-28-2012 10:03 AM)EdisonDoyle Wrote: I agree with no more schools from Texas. But no more schools from the deep south either (except maybe a Florida school). It's a highly saturated area already. I don't think many here expect the BE to fail. Many do believe the New Big East isn't considered to be among the power conferences like many BE posters would like to think they are. And many here don't believe their TV contract will be lucrative like BE posters claim it will be. It will be decent and better than CUSA no doubt about that. But understand the basketball schools and Boise is what legitimizing the BE conference right now. You take away the basketball schools and the BE conference maybe slightly better than CUSA. UConn, Rutgers, or even UL leaves the BE.......well you see my point. RE: CUSA appears to be expanding again in the near future.... - oldtiger - 07-28-2012 11:34 AM (07-28-2012 11:00 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote: I don't think many here expect the BE to fail. Many do believe the New Big East isn't considered to be among the power conferences like many BE posters would like to think they are. And many here don't believe their TV contract will be lucrative like BE posters claim it will be. It will be decent and better than CUSA no doubt about that. Those are good, level headed comments. Hopefully the exit fee being exactly what they were supposed to be and between the high and low extremes that were discussed here will level out expectations for everyone. Like almost everything in sports/life, reality is mostly in the middle of extremes. I'll be pleased when football season starts and we can talk about real action and not have on in four threads diverted one to a BE/CUSA argument....and I'm not referring to you, Scorpio. RE: CUSA appears to be expanding again in the near future.... - EdisonDoyle - 07-28-2012 11:36 AM (07-28-2012 11:00 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:I agree with you. It's no power league, Boise or not.(07-28-2012 10:03 AM)EdisonDoyle Wrote: I agree with no more schools from Texas. But no more schools from the deep south either (except maybe a Florida school). It's a highly saturated area already. But it can survive and is ahead of C-USA. RE: CUSA appears to be expanding again in the near future.... - C2__ - 07-28-2012 12:13 PM (07-28-2012 10:03 AM)EdisonDoyle Wrote:(07-28-2012 07:18 AM)WeatherfordMeanGreen Wrote: No more Texas-based schools. We don't want to become a little Southwest Conference within CUSA. We also do not want to water down our Lone Star State/CUSA product and give any semblance of a recruiting edge to any school presently not in CUSA or those on the way. I don't think Brit Banowsky has Texas in mind for any potential expansion whatsoever. Most from CUSA have already expressed on this board this>>>>>>>>>NO MORE SCHOOLS FROM TEXAS. Most all of us from Texas concur.I agree with no more schools from Texas. But no more schools from the deep south either (except maybe a Florida school). It's a highly saturated area already. Yep, from Ohio to New Mexico (Huntington and El Paso are right there, I'm just saying). It's not as bad as having a team in the four corners of the continental US but still very large. RE: CUSA appears to be expanding again in the near future.... - HerdZoned - 07-28-2012 12:15 PM (07-28-2012 12:28 AM)Kronke Wrote:(07-27-2012 10:14 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:(07-27-2012 09:48 PM)CougarRed Wrote: I feel sorry for East Carolina, Tulsa and Southern Miss. Have fun when Louie, Cincy, UConn, Rutgers and the BE3.1 Basketball schools leave you in the dust again. The only way it doesn't happen is if the NCAA puts a freeze on all school movement. RE: CUSA appears to be expanding again in the near future.... - SouthernMiss3613 - 07-28-2012 12:15 PM (07-27-2012 09:48 PM)CougarRed Wrote: I feel sorry for East Carolina, Tulsa and Southern Miss. I feel sorry for what happened to UofH. It felt like I was in a foreign country for the championship game. Lots of girls wearing burkas and a bunch of -------. RE: CUSA appears to be expanding again in the near future.... - SouthernMiss3613 - 07-28-2012 12:19 PM We shouldn't take anymore teams that don't have on campus stadiums. Watch what happens when UTSA has 3 losing seasons in a row. They won't have 5k people at their games. RE: CUSA appears to be expanding again in the near future.... - EdisonDoyle - 07-28-2012 12:25 PM The other thing about the BE is that it's not going to help anyone's attendance. OH Boise, as a top 10 program, will draw a few more fans. But unless you have some historical relationship with a specific BE team, they aren't going to bring out casual fans, unlike, say, a SEC or Big 12 team always will. RE: CUSA appears to be expanding again in the near future.... - WeatherfordMeanGreen - 07-28-2012 12:27 PM (07-28-2012 10:03 AM)EdisonDoyle Wrote:(07-28-2012 07:18 AM)WeatherfordMeanGreen Wrote: No more Texas-based schools. We don't want to become a little Southwest Conference within CUSA. We also do not want to water down our Lone Star State/CUSA product and give any semblance of a recruiting edge to any school presently not in CUSA or those on the way. I don't think Brit Banowsky has Texas in mind for any potential expansion whatsoever. Most from CUSA have already expressed on this board this>>>>>>>>>NO MORE SCHOOLS FROM TEXAS. Most all of us from Texas concur.I agree with no more schools from Texas. But no more schools from the deep south either (except maybe a Florida school). It's a highly saturated area already. I will believe that the Big East gets a "Big 5 NCAA FBS conference" type TV revenue contract when I see it in black and white print. Sure they'll get more than CUSA but will it be significantly more plus they still have all those additional B.E. "basketball only" schools to share that TV revenue with. Maybe it works out for them now, but there will be future TV revenue contracts to negotiate and it wlll be at that time I believe all the Big East newcomers will see if the initial move will have been worth it all for their respective schools. GMG! RE: CUSA appears to be expanding again in the near future.... - C2__ - 07-28-2012 12:27 PM (07-28-2012 12:19 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote: We shouldn't take anymore teams that don't have on campus stadiums. Watch what happens when UTSA has 3 losing seasons in a row. They won't have 5k people at their games. People don't understand the concept of a novelty wearing off. And look how tough their schedules will be in the coming seasons. They would have been much more successful taking a page out of the Bill Snyder-Greg Schiano-Boise State playbook of playing maybe one tough OOC game a year at the most and racking up easy wins (or at least winnable games) elsewhere to build your brand and pad your record. Look at Boise as opposed to Fresno or ECU. Boise usually has a one game season which they have used to turn themselves into a power because people usually just look at their record while ECU and Fresno have 4-5 losses a year and are just looked at like blah minor conference teams by the average fan (not necesarily me). RE: CUSA appears to be expanding again in the near future.... - LR Eagle - 07-28-2012 12:32 PM (07-28-2012 12:19 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote: We shouldn't take anymore teams that don't have on campus stadiums. Watch what happens when UTSA has 3 losing seasons in a row. They won't have 5k people at their games. They'll just do more chicken give aways. UTSA is in for a shock soon, they may get 40 or 50 dropped on them a few times. We'll see if anyone cares about them then. RE: CUSA appears to be expanding again in the near future.... - Proud El Pasoan - 07-28-2012 12:34 PM Wouldn't be surprised if New Mexico State and Idaho want to try to join C-USA. http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/eye-on-college-football/19655764/mountain-west-commish-shuts-door-on-idaho-new-mexico-state RE: CUSA appears to be expanding again in the near future.... - DrBox - 07-28-2012 12:37 PM (07-28-2012 12:27 PM)Caltex2 Wrote: Look at Boise as opposed to Fresno or ECU. Boise usually has a one game season which they have used to turn themselves into a power because people usually just look at their record while ECU and Fresno have 4-5 losses a year and are just looked at like blah minor conference teams by the average fan (not necesarily me). ONe thing that Boise did that Fresno could not do the last decade was bring home the WAC titles. Now perhaps that's because Fresno played such a killer ooc schedule that it wore them out for the WAC. C-USA teams have done that a time or two. That's why we never have had a BCS buster: over-scheduling OOC. Houston did it right last year (although it was actually a little too light). La Tech has a good one this year (although it's too road-heavy and I'm not sure they quite have the team to win all those games, but we'll see). I'll second the thoughts up there. Our best draws in C-USA have come from USM and then Memphis. That's because we've played them every year since the 1970s, until the recent version of C-USA. (Rice and TCU were good too). I'm not counting visiting fans....just locals. No Cincinnati, Louisville etc. When we played as an independent, our best draw was Georgia Tech (except for LSU) for some reason - well, because we had played them every year in the SEC. RE: CUSA appears to be expanding again in the near future.... - randaddyminer - 07-28-2012 12:47 PM (07-28-2012 12:15 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:(07-27-2012 09:48 PM)CougarRed Wrote: I feel sorry for East Carolina, Tulsa and Southern Miss. Now I know where the band gets it from edit: how come the word illegals was dashed out in my reply, but still remains in this tool's original post? RE: CUSA appears to be expanding again in the near future.... - C2__ - 07-28-2012 12:48 PM Exactly, until you have the speed and depth to do so, you shouldn't be playing three Cartel teams a year. Houston in 2009 was not the same team, especially defensively, after the Texas Tech game because the Oklahoma State and Tech games took a toll on our limited depth which is why we got pushed around the field the rest of the season. Houston's depth by comparison this year is outstanding and this is also what I'm trying to get across to people making predictions that UH will falter greatly just because Keenum, Carrier and Edwards are gone (though those do hurt significantly). Anyways, smart scheduling for non-Cartel teams should be two games against them (hopefully one at home), an FCS/easy win game plus a lower tier Cartel team or solid mid-major. Look at Boise's schedule this year as a close example (BYU might as well be in the Cartel). RE: CUSA appears to be expanding again in the near future.... - LR Eagle - 07-28-2012 12:49 PM (07-28-2012 12:34 PM)Proud El Pasoan Wrote: Wouldn't be surprised if New Mexico State and Idaho want to try to join C-USA. They may want to, but I highly doubt anyone wants them. Especially not Idaho, they need to just bite the bullet and head to FCS or DII. |