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You don't have control of YOUR children. - Fo Shizzle - 01-23-2012 05:36 PM
Cobb county woman arrested for allowing her 10 year old to get a tattoo of his dead brother.
http://http//www.thegrio.com/news/georgia-woman-charged-with-cruelty-for-tattooing-her-10-year-old.php
While I would not allow my child to do this. It is no more wrong than circumcision or piercing of ears. Why is this against the law?
RE: You don't have control of YOUR children. - BleedsHuskieRed - 01-23-2012 05:38 PM
Link broken.
RE: You don't have control of YOUR children. - DrTorch - 01-23-2012 06:05 PM
(01-23-2012 05:36 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: Cobb county woman arrested for allowing her 10 year old to get a tattoo of his dead brother.
http://http//www.thegrio.com/news/georgia-woman-charged-with-cruelty-for-tattooing-her-10-year-old.php
While I would not allow my child to do this. It is no more wrong than circumcision or piercing of ears. Why is this against the law?
While I would object to this w/in a Christian church, I can see no reason why this isn't permissible. Very disturbing.
RE: You don't have control of YOUR children. - smn1256 - 01-23-2012 06:35 PM
A guy in California almost got sentenced to life for tattooing his kid.
http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/local&id=7502941
RE: You don't have control of YOUR children. - aTxTIGER - 01-23-2012 06:39 PM
the tattoo artist should've known better and really should've known it was against state law.
RE: You don't have control of YOUR children. - Fo Shizzle - 01-23-2012 10:05 PM
(01-23-2012 06:39 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote: the tattoo artist should've known better and really should've known it was against state law.
There is a question in this as to if the mom went to a "unlicensed" artist. If so...this is a direct example of the consequences of prohibitions. If she did go to a "garage tattoo artist" it is because she was forced into a unsafe and dangerous black market. The legitimate marketplace is ALWAYS safer than the black market in ALL respects. Our history has proven this to be unquestionable.
RE: You don't have control of YOUR children. - aTxTIGER - 01-23-2012 11:01 PM
(01-23-2012 10:05 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:(01-23-2012 06:39 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote: the tattoo artist should've known better and really should've known it was against state law.
There is a question in this as to if the mom went to a "unlicensed" artist. If so...this is a direct example of the consequences of prohibitions. If she did go to a "garage tattoo artist" it is because she was forced into a unsafe and dangerous black market. The legitimate marketplace is ALWAYS safer than the black market in ALL respects. Our history has proven this to be unquestionable.
I'm sorry. I just can't get behind the tattooing of a 10 year old despite your very logical argument about the creation of black markets in prohibited sectors. It just sickens me to no end that a parent would let their kid go through that pain. I know I am being a hypocrite in relation to my belief in a hands-off government, but I can live with that.
RE: You don't have control of YOUR children. - Fo Shizzle - 01-24-2012 06:47 AM
(01-23-2012 11:01 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:(01-23-2012 10:05 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:(01-23-2012 06:39 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote: the tattoo artist should've known better and really should've known it was against state law.
There is a question in this as to if the mom went to a "unlicensed" artist. If so...this is a direct example of the consequences of prohibitions. If she did go to a "garage tattoo artist" it is because she was forced into a unsafe and dangerous black market. The legitimate marketplace is ALWAYS safer than the black market in ALL respects. Our history has proven this to be unquestionable.
I'm sorry. I just can't get behind the tattooing of a 10 year old despite your very logical argument about the creation of black markets in prohibited sectors. It just sickens me to no end that a parent would let their kid go through that pain. I know I am being a hypocrite in relation to my belief in a hands-off government, but I can live with that.
I agree...I think the mom was out of her mind. I think though, if an underage girl can have their ears pierced and have breast augmentation and baby boy's are submitted to surgical mutilation at birth... that there is no logical reason that this should not be allowed with parental permission. It is another example of the inconsistencies of statutes.
One of the things that bothers me about cops is they use the same old line..."Our hands are tied"...when they arrest people in situations like this. I call BS. They have the option to simply do nothing. They just don't have the balls to do it.
RE: You don't have control of YOUR children. - SumOfAllFears - 01-24-2012 08:42 AM
What is the difference between this and the lesbian couple raising their male child as a female?
RE: You don't have control of YOUR children. - I'mMoreAwesomeThanYou - 01-24-2012 08:47 AM
(01-23-2012 10:05 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:(01-23-2012 06:39 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote: the tattoo artist should've known better and really should've known it was against state law.
There is a question in this as to if the mom went to a "unlicensed" artist. If so...this is a direct example of the consequences of prohibitions. If she did go to a "garage tattoo artist" it is because she was forced into a unsafe and dangerous black market. The legitimate marketplace is ALWAYS safer than the black market in ALL respects. Our history has proven this to be unquestionable.
You're an idiot. These places are licensed for our safety. They are inspected for cleanliness and their instruments must be sterile. Getting a tattoo isn't illegal but to think that licensing them is a bad idea just perpetuates the idea that libertarians are crazy. Oh, and kids shouldn't be allowed to get tattoo'd, drink, or smoke. There are reasons for these things...
RE: You don't have control of YOUR children. - AtlanticLeague - 01-24-2012 08:54 AM
(01-24-2012 08:42 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: What is the difference between this and the lesbian couple raising their male child as a female?
how is this related to anything?
RE: You don't have control of YOUR children. - Bull_In_Exile - 01-24-2012 09:35 AM
(01-24-2012 08:54 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:(01-24-2012 08:42 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: What is the difference between this and the lesbian couple raising their male child as a female?
how is this related to anything?
It's a great example of selective outrage of the left..
1) Bring home a deceased baby to say goodbye to the family sick
2) Allowing your 10 yo to get a tat of his deceased brothers name sick
3) Allowing your 5yo boy to gender cast himself as a girl *AWSOME*
RE: You don't have control of YOUR children. - Fo Shizzle - 01-24-2012 09:35 AM
(01-24-2012 08:47 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:(01-23-2012 10:05 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:(01-23-2012 06:39 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote: the tattoo artist should've known better and really should've known it was against state law.
There is a question in this as to if the mom went to a "unlicensed" artist. If so...this is a direct example of the consequences of prohibitions. If she did go to a "garage tattoo artist" it is because she was forced into a unsafe and dangerous black market. The legitimate marketplace is ALWAYS safer than the black market in ALL respects. Our history has proven this to be unquestionable.
You're an idiot. These places are licensed for our safety. They are inspected for cleanliness and their instruments must be sterile. Getting a tattoo isn't illegal but to think that licensing them is a bad idea just perpetuates the idea that libertarians are crazy. Oh, and kids shouldn't be allowed to get tattoo'd, drink, or smoke. There are reasons for these things...
First off...If anyone is the idiot...it is you. No where did I say that the damn places did not need to be licensed. My point was that she was not allowed to go to a damn legal establishment and was forced into the black market. I swear...I wish people would read once in a while and stop and think for a f'ng second before they hit "post". Now feel free to blast away some more GD nonsense.
It is fine to mutilate a child with parental consent and this is not OK? What a bunch of hogwash!
RE: You don't have control of YOUR children. - Fo Shizzle - 01-24-2012 09:40 AM
(01-24-2012 09:35 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:(01-24-2012 08:54 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:(01-24-2012 08:42 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: What is the difference between this and the lesbian couple raising their male child as a female?
how is this related to anything?
It's a great example of selective outrage of the left..
1) Bring home a deceased baby to say goodbye to the family sick
2) Allowing your 10 yo to get a tat of his deceased brothers name sick
3) Allowing your 5yo boy to gender cast himself as a girl *AWSOME*
I agree. All of the above are nonsense. I also believe telling parents how they should raise their children is equally wrong. Unfortunately..it is the price of freedom. What surprises me constantly is that so called conservatives that love to expound upon freedom are the damn first to want to control peoples lives.
RE: You don't have control of YOUR children. - I'mMoreAwesomeThanYou - 01-24-2012 09:43 AM
(01-24-2012 09:35 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:(01-24-2012 08:47 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:(01-23-2012 10:05 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:(01-23-2012 06:39 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote: the tattoo artist should've known better and really should've known it was against state law.
There is a question in this as to if the mom went to a "unlicensed" artist. If so...this is a direct example of the consequences of prohibitions. If she did go to a "garage tattoo artist" it is because she was forced into a unsafe and dangerous black market. The legitimate marketplace is ALWAYS safer than the black market in ALL respects. Our history has proven this to be unquestionable.
You're an idiot. These places are licensed for our safety. They are inspected for cleanliness and their instruments must be sterile. Getting a tattoo isn't illegal but to think that licensing them is a bad idea just perpetuates the idea that libertarians are crazy. Oh, and kids shouldn't be allowed to get tattoo'd, drink, or smoke. There are reasons for these things...
First off...If anyone is the idiot...it is you. No where did I say that the damn places did not need to be licensed. My point was that she was not allowed to go to a damn legal establishment and was forced into the black market. I swear...I wish people would read once in a while and stop and think for a f'ng second before they hit "post". Now feel free to blast away some more GD nonsense.
I guess you missed the part about not allowing a child to get tattoo'd. I swear I wish people would read once and a while...
By the way you as crappy a communicator as your messiah...RP. Maybe you should read what you type before you click "Post".
RE: You don't have control of YOUR children. - AtlanticLeague - 01-24-2012 09:44 AM
(01-24-2012 09:40 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:(01-24-2012 09:35 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:(01-24-2012 08:54 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:(01-24-2012 08:42 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: What is the difference between this and the lesbian couple raising their male child as a female?
how is this related to anything?
It's a great example of selective outrage of the left..
1) Bring home a deceased baby to say goodbye to the family sick
2) Allowing your 10 yo to get a tat of his deceased brothers name sick
3) Allowing your 5yo boy to gender cast himself as a girl *AWSOME*
I agree. All of the above are nonsense. I also believe telling parents how they should raise their children is equally wrong. Unfortunately..it is the price of freedom. What surprises me constantly is that so called conservatives that love to expound upon freedom are the damn first to want to control peoples lives.
Partisanship and consistency don't play nicely together.
RE: You don't have control of YOUR children. - I'mMoreAwesomeThanYou - 01-24-2012 09:45 AM
(01-24-2012 09:44 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:(01-24-2012 09:40 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:(01-24-2012 09:35 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:(01-24-2012 08:54 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:(01-24-2012 08:42 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: What is the difference between this and the lesbian couple raising their male child as a female?
how is this related to anything?
It's a great example of selective outrage of the left..
1) Bring home a deceased baby to say goodbye to the family sick
2) Allowing your 10 yo to get a tat of his deceased brothers name sick
3) Allowing your 5yo boy to gender cast himself as a girl *AWSOME*
I agree. All of the above are nonsense. I also believe telling parents how they should raise their children is equally wrong. Unfortunately..it is the price of freedom. What surprises me constantly is that so called conservatives that love to expound upon freedom are the damn first to want to control peoples lives.
Partisanship and consistency don't play nicely together.
Pot meet kettle...
Prayer vs. Science....Really?
RE: You don't have control of YOUR children. - Owl 69/70/75 - 01-24-2012 09:47 AM
(01-24-2012 09:44 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote: Partisanship and consistency don't play nicely together.
But isn't that largely because much of our partisanship is based on convenience or personality instead of principle?
RE: You don't have control of YOUR children. - AtlanticLeague - 01-24-2012 09:48 AM
(01-24-2012 09:45 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:(01-24-2012 09:44 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote:(01-24-2012 09:40 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:(01-24-2012 09:35 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:(01-24-2012 08:54 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote: how is this related to anything?
It's a great example of selective outrage of the left..
1) Bring home a deceased baby to say goodbye to the family sick
2) Allowing your 10 yo to get a tat of his deceased brothers name sick
3) Allowing your 5yo boy to gender cast himself as a girl *AWSOME*
I agree. All of the above are nonsense. I also believe telling parents how they should raise their children is equally wrong. Unfortunately..it is the price of freedom. What surprises me constantly is that so called conservatives that love to expound upon freedom are the damn first to want to control peoples lives.
Partisanship and consistency don't play nicely together.
Pot meet kettle...
Prayer vs. Science....Really?
You commented, really?
RE: You don't have control of YOUR children. - AtlanticLeague - 01-24-2012 09:49 AM
(01-24-2012 09:47 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:(01-24-2012 09:44 AM)AtlanticLeague Wrote: Partisanship and consistency don't play nicely together.
But isn't that largely because much of our partisanship is based on convenience or personality instead of principle?
Probably more about avoiding cognitive dissonance.