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Keith Ellison Hearts Herman Cain - Redwingtom - 07-21-2011 02:56 PM
I don't know if Herman Cain is just a sick individual, or if he is using bigotry to strategically move his campaign forward. But in either case it's reprehensible that he just will not relent with this bigotry and that he actually thinks it's going to enhance his chances to get the Republican nomination. If I were a Republican, I would be outraged. Anyone who cares about religious liberty and inclusion has got to be offended by Herman Cain.
Muslim lawmaker: Herman Cain is a "bigot"
RE: Keith Ellison Hearts Herman Cain - Rebel - 07-21-2011 02:58 PM
A bigot calling someone else a bigot isn't convincing. Sorry.
RE: Keith Ellison Hearts Herman Cain - aTxTIGER - 07-21-2011 03:35 PM
That doesnt mean Herman Cain isnt a bigot. I honestly dont think he believes any of the **** he says. He is too smart of a man to actually believe it.
RE: Keith Ellison Hearts Herman Cain - Lord Stanley - 07-21-2011 03:54 PM
Ellison has a remarkably racist past with the Nation of Islam, and currently has not come out in support of any tenent of liberal faith so important to the left like gay rights, abortion or feminism because of his Muslim faith.
He should not be casting "bigot" stones.
RE: Keith Ellison Hearts Herman Cain - Rebel - 07-21-2011 03:55 PM
(07-21-2011 03:35 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote: That doesnt mean Herman Cain isnt a bigot. I honestly dont think he believes any of the **** he says. He is too smart of a man to actually believe it.
Why? I believe it. They should be made to take a loyalty oath. ...then again, doesn't everyone upon being sworn into office? As for Ellison, anyone that has ties to CAIR is suspect and when your shining example of "Peaceful Islam" is a congressman with those ties, well, do the math.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Maurice_Ellison
RE: Keith Ellison Hearts Herman Cain - SumOfAllFears - 07-21-2011 04:04 PM
Quote:Have you talked to him at all or do you know anyone who has talked to him to try to communicate with him about Islam?
No. But I can't imagine that it would make any difference. Take him -- and you can even add Newt Gingrich to the list -- these guys are not without resources. If they want to know something, they can find it out. If they want access to people to give them information, they can get it. They're saying this even though they know what they're saying is likely to antagonize and inflame people. I have to say, it's a scary prospect. A lot of times ideas take years to germinate. But if you keep whipping up hate and hysteria against a religious minority long enough, catastrophic things can happen.
A case could be made for Keith Ellison being a paranoid schizophrenic. <do, da> <do, da>
RE: Keith Ellison Hearts Herman Cain - smn1256 - 07-21-2011 04:05 PM
One group calls for the deaths of infidels, one man says he won't hire from that group. What's the problem?
RE: Keith Ellison Hearts Herman Cain - aTxTIGER - 07-21-2011 05:47 PM
(07-21-2011 03:55 PM)Rebel Wrote:(07-21-2011 03:35 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote: That doesnt mean Herman Cain isnt a bigot. I honestly dont think he believes any of the **** he says. He is too smart of a man to actually believe it.
Why? I believe it. They should be made to take a loyalty oath. ...then again, doesn't everyone upon being sworn into office? As for Ellison, anyone that has ties to CAIR is suspect and when your shining example of "Peaceful Islam" is a congressman with those ties, well, do the math.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Maurice_Ellison
I have no love for Keith Ellison. Herman Cain is talking about a special loyalty oath for muslims(like he would put any in his cabinet anyway).
RE: Keith Ellison Hearts Herman Cain - aTxTIGER - 07-21-2011 05:48 PM
(07-21-2011 04:05 PM)smn1256 Wrote: One group calls for the deaths of infidels, one man says he won't hire from that group. What's the problem?
So every American muslim is waging jihad on the US?
RE: Keith Ellison Hearts Herman Cain - Mr. Peanut - 07-21-2011 07:19 PM
(07-21-2011 04:05 PM)smn1256 Wrote: One group calls for the deaths of infidels, one man says he won't hire from that group. What's the problem?
...but what did Keith Ellison do?
RE: Keith Ellison Hearts Herman Cain - UM2001GRAD - 07-21-2011 08:22 PM
Herman Cain does advocate bigotry against American Muslims. Naturally other bigots will line up to defend his vile thoughts.
RE: Keith Ellison Hearts Herman Cain - Paul M - 07-21-2011 08:36 PM
It's as though some don't know who Ellison is.
RE: Keith Ellison Hearts Herman Cain - Rebel - 07-21-2011 08:38 PM
(07-21-2011 08:22 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote: Herman Cain does advocate bigotry against American Muslims. Naturally other bigots will line up to defend his vile thoughts.
When are you going to understand that no one gives a **** what you say? Is it idiocy that prevents it?
RE: Keith Ellison Hearts Herman Cain - UM2001GRAD - 07-21-2011 08:41 PM
(07-21-2011 08:38 PM)Rebel Wrote:(07-21-2011 08:22 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote: Herman Cain does advocate bigotry against American Muslims. Naturally other bigots will line up to defend his vile thoughts.
When are you going to understand that no one gives a **** what you say? Is it idiocy that prevents it?
You're a specific example of what I am talking about.
RE: Keith Ellison Hearts Herman Cain - Paul M - 07-21-2011 08:42 PM
(07-21-2011 07:19 PM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:(07-21-2011 04:05 PM)smn1256 Wrote: One group calls for the deaths of infidels, one man says he won't hire from that group. What's the problem?
...but what did Keith Ellison do?
I suppose that's what you told yourself about Robert Byrd too.
RE: Keith Ellison Hearts Herman Cain - Rebel - 07-21-2011 08:43 PM
(07-21-2011 08:41 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:(07-21-2011 08:38 PM)Rebel Wrote:(07-21-2011 08:22 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote: Herman Cain does advocate bigotry against American Muslims. Naturally other bigots will line up to defend his vile thoughts.
When are you going to understand that no one gives a **** what you say? Is it idiocy that prevents it?
You're a specific example of what I am talking about.
...yet you defend Ellison, a KNOWN bigot. What does that make you, fool?
RE: Keith Ellison Hearts Herman Cain - UM2001GRAD - 07-21-2011 08:46 PM
(07-21-2011 08:43 PM)Rebel Wrote:(07-21-2011 08:41 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:(07-21-2011 08:38 PM)Rebel Wrote:(07-21-2011 08:22 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote: Herman Cain does advocate bigotry against American Muslims. Naturally other bigots will line up to defend his vile thoughts.
When are you going to understand that no one gives a **** what you say? Is it idiocy that prevents it?
You're a specific example of what I am talking about.
...yet you defend Ellison, a KNOWN bigot. What does that make you, fool?
Ellison is largely immaterial to the discussion. The question is not about Ellison, but about whether the things he claims are true. I say they are true. You, and your ilk, just resort of equivocations. That's tacit acknowledgement that you too think Ellison is correct.
RE: Keith Ellison Hearts Herman Cain - Rebel - 07-21-2011 08:52 PM
(07-21-2011 08:46 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote: Ellison is largely immaterial to the discussion. The question is not about Ellison, but about whether the things he claims are true. I say they are true. You, and your ilk, just resort of equivocations. That's tacit acknowledgement that you too think Ellison is correct.
Correct in what? That I think Muslims are dangerous to this nation? Is that a secret? You Prog idiots think Christians are dangerous to this nation. WTF is the difference, besides Christians not having a history of blowing themselves up for their "cause"?
It's funny, you Prog idiots trash Christians but are the first to defend Islam...and there are COUNTLESS stories on Muslims attacking free people. Hell, even in the military we had one guy go berserk in Texas and one Muslim throw a grenade into the tent of his officers.
RE: Keith Ellison Hearts Herman Cain - Paul M - 07-21-2011 09:04 PM
UMbottomoftheclassGRAD, your parents should demand their money back.
RE: Keith Ellison Hearts Herman Cain - UM2001GRAD - 07-21-2011 09:55 PM
(07-21-2011 08:52 PM)Rebel Wrote:(07-21-2011 08:46 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote: Ellison is largely immaterial to the discussion. The question is not about Ellison, but about whether the things he claims are true. I say they are true. You, and your ilk, just resort of equivocations. That's tacit acknowledgement that you too think Ellison is correct.
Correct in what? That I think Muslims are dangerous to this nation? Is that a secret? You Prog idiots think Christians are dangerous to this nation. WTF is the difference, besides Christians not having a history of blowing themselves up for their "cause"?
It's funny, you Prog idiots trash Christians but are the first to defend Islam...and there are COUNTLESS stories on Muslims attacking free people. Hell, even in the military we had one guy go berserk in Texas and one Muslim throw a grenade into the tent of his officers.
I think all fundamental religions pose threats of some form or another. Unlike you, I'm not willing to piss on the Constitution to ease my concerns. Again, you prove my signature true.