+- CSNbbs (https://csnbbs.com)
+-- Forum: Active Boards (/forum-769.html)
+--- Forum: Lounge (/forum-564.html)
+---- Forum: The Spin Room (/forum-540.html)
+---- Thread: Spanish Court Issues Warrants for Arrest of 3 American soldiers (/thread-445186.html)
Spanish Court Issues Warrants for Arrest of 3 American soldiers - Native Georgian - 07-30-2010 04:07 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20100729/wl_time/08599200738800
This is not the sort of thing that Obama needs to make a "Big Deal" out of, at least not in public. But quietly and without fanfare, he should send a private letter to the King and PM of Spain, informing them that if any US citizen is detained as a result of this judicial farce, the consequences will be "deeply unpleasant for Spaniards visiting/traveling in the US, including diplomats". Leave the "deeply unpleasant" wording deliberately ambiguous, and essentially dare them to do anything about it.
RE: Spanish Court Issues Warrants for Arrest of 3 American soldiers - georgia_tech_swagger - 07-30-2010 05:54 PM
Blowback.
RE: Spanish Court Issues Warrants for Arrest of 3 American soldiers - SumOfAllFears - 07-30-2010 06:24 PM
Let the Spanish pound sand.
RE: Spanish Court Issues Warrants for Arrest of 3 American soldiers - smn1256 - 07-30-2010 09:14 PM
(07-30-2010 06:24 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: Let the Spanish pound sand.
Werd.
RE: Spanish Court Issues Warrants for Arrest of 3 American soldiers - Owl 69/70/75 - 07-30-2010 10:30 PM
Spain needs our support for their efforts to work out of their debt hole. Perhaps we could make that contingent on this getting overturned. Except that we're probably going to need their support--and certainly the EU's--to work out of our own debt hole in a few years.
RE: Spanish Court Issues Warrants for Arrest of 3 American soldiers - I45owl - 07-31-2010 12:16 AM
This is most likely a pyrrhic victory for the plaintiffs. The Spanish Courts regularly indict all kinds of world leaders and then overturn the ruling shortly later. I'd be surprised for this to go anywhere.
RE: Spanish Court Issues Warrants for Arrest of 3 American soldiers - T-Monay820 - 07-31-2010 01:00 AM
I will accept only rulings by our own military court system. If they're guilty, they should be punished justly.
RE: Spanish Court Issues Warrants for Arrest of 3 American soldiers - CitrusUCF - 08-01-2010 12:15 PM
The idea of universal jurisdiction as practiced by courts in a few European countries is a gigantic joke and in violation of any number of canons of international law and every European legal system. There's absolutely no way we'd extradite them, but obviously they might not want to leave the US on vacation.
RE: Spanish Court Issues Warrants for Arrest of 3 American soldiers - Native Georgian - 08-01-2010 12:56 PM
(08-01-2010 12:15 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote: There's absolutely no way we'd extradite them, but obviously they might not want to leave the US on vacation.Which is why Obama should send that letter to Madrid.
Pinochet was held by British authorities based on a Spanish warrant.
RE: Spanish Court Issues Warrants for Arrest of 3 American soldiers - Hambone10 - 08-01-2010 03:08 PM
You're in a war zone. Things blow up. We take great efforts to avoid mistakes, but they happen. I guess the Spanish have forgotten about what happens when wars are fought in cities?
RE: Spanish Court Issues Warrants for Arrest of 3 American soldiers - Bull_In_Exile - 08-02-2010 10:07 AM
(08-01-2010 03:08 PM)Hambone10 Wrote: You're in a war zone. Things blow up. We take great efforts to avoid mistakes, but they happen. I guess the Spanish have forgotten about what happens when wars are fought in cities?
+1
Part of gorilla warfare is hiding behind civilians, When you get into a city shots come from every direction and no amount of 'press' flack jackets are going to stop that.
This is less about a 'war crime' than it is about the Spanish governments view on the war as a whole. They think the entire war is a war crime.
RE: Spanish Court Issues Warrants for Arrest of 3 American soldiers - Native Georgian - 08-02-2010 10:17 AM
(08-02-2010 10:07 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: Part of gorilla warfare is hiding behind civiliansI would love to see gorillas trying to hide behind civilians as they fight each other, LOL.
RE: Spanish Court Issues Warrants for Arrest of 3 American soldiers - Lord Stanley - 08-02-2010 11:33 AM
(08-02-2010 10:07 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:(08-01-2010 03:08 PM)Hambone10 Wrote: You're in a war zone. Things blow up. We take great efforts to avoid mistakes, but they happen. I guess the Spanish have forgotten about what happens when wars are fought in cities?
+1
Part of gorilla warfare is hiding behind civilians, When you get into a city shots come from every direction and no amount of 'press' flack jackets are going to stop that.
This is less about a 'war crime' than it is about the Spanish governments view on the war as a whole. They think the entire war is a war crime.
I recently read a nice post about how the Spanish issued this warrant for the American soldiers, but never issued a warrant for any of the bombers, or their colleagues, who planned a subsequent TNT attack on the same hotel housing Spanish journos.
Why is that? Is it because there are no political points to score?
RE: Spanish Court Issues Warrants for Arrest of 3 American soldiers - Hambone10 - 08-02-2010 07:00 PM
The leader of the bombers won't give them money and apologize