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Iranian Pres. Ahmadinejad Clashes with Pres.Candidate Mir Hossein in Televised Debate - SumOfAllFears - 06-09-2009 09:56 PM

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Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Clashes with Presidential Candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi in a Televised Debate

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RE: Iranian Pres. Ahmadinejad Clashes with Pres.Candidate Mir Hossein in Televised Debate - SumOfAllFears - 06-10-2009 07:45 AM

Ahmadinejad says election rivals use Hitler tactics

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE5592OM20090610

By Parisa Hafezi and Dominic Evans
TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad accused his election rivals on Wednesday of adopting smear tactics used by Germany's dictator Adolf Hitler and said they could face jail for insulting him.


Ahmadinejad was speaking at a rally in Tehran on the final day of an increasingly bitter and hard-fought election campaign, in which he faces a growing challenge from moderate former prime minister Mirhossein Mousavi.

Mousavi and the two other candidates say Ahmadinejad has lied about the state of the economy which is suffering from high inflation and a fall in oil revenues from last year's record levels.

Ahmadinejad said his rivals had broken laws against insulting the president.

"No one has the right to insult the president, and they did it. And this is a crime. The person who insulted the president should be punished, and the punishment is jail," he told supporters outside Tehran's Sharif University.

"Such insults and accusations against the government are a return to Hitler's methods, to repeat lies and accusations ... until everyone believes those lies," Ahmadinejad said.

Insulting senior officials, including the president, is a crime in Iran carrying a maximum two-year jail sentence.

The hardline president has accused Mousavi's supporters, including former President Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, of corruption. Rafsanjani responded angrily, calling on the Islamic Republic's supreme leader to rein in Ahmadinejad.

Mousavi accuses Ahmadinejad of isolating Iran with his vitriolic attacks on the United States, his combative line on Iran's nuclear policy and his questioning of the Holocaust.

He advocates easing nuclear tensions, while rejecting demands that Tehran halt nuclear work which the West fears could be used to make bombs. Iran, the world's fifth-largest oil exporter, says its nuclear program is peaceful.

Friday's election will not change Tehran's nuclear policy, which is decided by the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, but a victory for Mousavi could herald a less confrontational relationship with the West.

IRAN'S VELVET REVOLUTION?

The angry election exchanges have reverberated in the Shi'ite holy city of Qom, a main religious center in the Islamic Republic, where 14 clerics expressed "deep concern and regret" that Iran's image had been harmed by the political mud slinging.

Another group said on Wednesday that Rafsanjani would be responsible if the tension escalated into violence.

The three-week election campaign has seen rising support for Mousavi, who had been out of the political spotlight since serving as prime minister during the 1980-88 war with Iraq.

In affluent northern Tehran his supporters have flooded the streets at night, dressed in his green campaign colors and waving posters, flags and green balloons. Mousavi sympathizers increasingly believe he could claim victory in the election.

Saeed Laylaz, editor of business daily Sarmayeh, said his travels across Iran in the last two months suggested Mousavi had gained support of more than 50 percent of voters, enough to triumph on Friday without the need of a second round of voting.

"If we have a free election, he may win at the first round," he said. "What's happening in Iran now is a colorful velvet revolution."

But the election outcome remains unpredictable. The relatively unknown Ahmadinejad surprised everyone with his victory four years ago, and he has enjoyed the support of Khamenei throughout his presidency.

A European envoy in Tehran said he still expected the incumbent to win. "(It will be) more of the same," he said.

And analysts caution that even if Mousavi were to defeat Ahmadinejad, there would be no sudden change in Iran's relations with the West.

"Things in Iran move slowly. It would mark a significant change, but it wouldn't reflect regime change," said Ali Ansari of the University of St .Andrews in Scotland.

"But they would build on the momentum developed by (reformist former president Mohammad) Khatami. That trajectory would continue."


RE: Iranian Pres. Ahmadinejad Clashes with Pres.Candidate Mir Hossein in Televised Debate - NIU007 - 06-10-2009 06:14 PM

The angry election exchanges have reverberated in the Shi'ite holy city of Qom, a main religious center in the Islamic Republic, where 14 clerics expressed "deep concern and regret" that Iran's image had been harmed by the political mud slinging.

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Sure, it's the political mud slinging that has harmed Iran's image. 03-lmfao


RE: Iranian Pres. Ahmadinejad Clashes with Pres.Candidate Mir Hossein in Televised Debate - WoodlandsOwl - 06-11-2009 04:30 AM

(06-10-2009 07:45 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Ahmadinejad says election rivals use Hitler tactics

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE5592OM20090610

By Parisa Hafezi and Dominic Evans
TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad accused his election rivals on Wednesday of adopting smear tactics used by Germany's dictator Adolf Hitler and said they could face jail for insulting him.


Ahmadinejad was speaking at a rally in Tehran on the final day of an increasingly bitter and hard-fought election campaign, in which he faces a growing challenge from moderate former prime minister Mirhossein Mousavi.

Mousavi and the two other candidates say Ahmadinejad has lied about the state of the economy which is suffering from high inflation and a fall in oil revenues from last year's record levels.

Ahmadinejad said his rivals had broken laws against insulting the president.

"No one has the right to insult the president, and they did it. And this is a crime. The person who insulted the president should be punished, and the punishment is jail," he told supporters outside Tehran's Sharif University.

"Such insults and accusations against the government are a return to Hitler's methods, to repeat lies and accusations ... until everyone believes those lies," Ahmadinejad said.

Insulting senior officials, including the president, is a crime in Iran carrying a maximum two-year jail sentence.

The hardline president has accused Mousavi's supporters, including former President Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, of corruption. Rafsanjani responded angrily, calling on the Islamic Republic's supreme leader to rein in Ahmadinejad.

Mousavi accuses Ahmadinejad of isolating Iran with his vitriolic attacks on the United States, his combative line on Iran's nuclear policy and his questioning of the Holocaust.

He advocates easing nuclear tensions, while rejecting demands that Tehran halt nuclear work which the West fears could be used to make bombs. Iran, the world's fifth-largest oil exporter, says its nuclear program is peaceful.

Friday's election will not change Tehran's nuclear policy, which is decided by the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, but a victory for Mousavi could herald a less confrontational relationship with the West.

IRAN'S VELVET REVOLUTION?

The angry election exchanges have reverberated in the Shi'ite holy city of Qom, a main religious center in the Islamic Republic, where 14 clerics expressed "deep concern and regret" that Iran's image had been harmed by the political mud slinging.

Another group said on Wednesday that Rafsanjani would be responsible if the tension escalated into violence.

The three-week election campaign has seen rising support for Mousavi, who had been out of the political spotlight since serving as prime minister during the 1980-88 war with Iraq.

In affluent northern Tehran his supporters have flooded the streets at night, dressed in his green campaign colors and waving posters, flags and green balloons. Mousavi sympathizers increasingly believe he could claim victory in the election.

Saeed Laylaz, editor of business daily Sarmayeh, said his travels across Iran in the last two months suggested Mousavi had gained support of more than 50 percent of voters, enough to triumph on Friday without the need of a second round of voting.

"If we have a free election, he may win at the first round," he said. "What's happening in Iran now is a colorful velvet revolution."

But the election outcome remains unpredictable. The relatively unknown Ahmadinejad surprised everyone with his victory four years ago, and he has enjoyed the support of Khamenei throughout his presidency.

A European envoy in Tehran said he still expected the incumbent to win. "(It will be) more of the same," he said.

And analysts caution that even if Mousavi were to defeat Ahmadinejad, there would be no sudden change in Iran's relations with the West.

"Things in Iran move slowly. It would mark a significant change, but it wouldn't reflect regime change," said Ali Ansari of the University of St .Andrews in Scotland.

"But they would build on the momentum developed by (reformist former president Mohammad) Khatami. That trajectory would continue."

This is going to be a Dog and Pony Show.

The real power is in the Mullahs. Regardless of who "wins" the Mullahs still call the shots and they have their thugs, the Revolutionary Guards and the Religious Police keep any opposition in line.

Instead of taking out the iranian nuke sites the Israelis should decapitate the Iranian leadership to the point a coup would work.


RE: Iranian Pres. Ahmadinejad Clashes with Pres.Candidate Mir Hossein in Televised Debate - Tripster - 06-11-2009 10:39 AM

(06-11-2009 04:30 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  This is going to be a Dog and Pony Show.

The real power is in the Mullahs. Regardless of who "wins" the Mullahs still call the shots and they have their thugs, the Revolutionary Guards and the Religious Police keep any opposition in line.

Instead of taking out the Iranian nuke sites the Israelis should decapitate the Iranian leadership to the point a coup would work.

I have to agree on that one .... if you could pull it off to where people would no longer fear these gross idiots because they are Dead Mutha's, then you may have a chance at a Successful Coup if you plan it and strike while the iron is hot and the confusion is rampant.

I honestly think that might be a better solution to try first because there will always be the planes and the bombs ... but in contrast, how many chances do you get to remove the Animals who are running the Zoo ??? 03-thumbsup

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RE: Iranian Pres. Ahmadinejad Clashes with Pres.Candidate Mir Hossein in Televised Debate - NIU007 - 06-12-2009 04:48 PM

(06-11-2009 10:39 AM)Tripster Wrote:  
(06-11-2009 04:30 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  This is going to be a Dog and Pony Show.

The real power is in the Mullahs. Regardless of who "wins" the Mullahs still call the shots and they have their thugs, the Revolutionary Guards and the Religious Police keep any opposition in line.

Instead of taking out the Iranian nuke sites the Israelis should decapitate the Iranian leadership to the point a coup would work.

I have to agree on that one .... if you could pull it off to where people would no longer fear these gross idiots because they are Dead Mutha's, then you may have a chance at a Successful Coup if you plan it and strike while the iron is hot and the confusion is rampant.

I honestly think that might be a better solution to try first because there will always be the planes and the bombs ... but in contrast, how many chances do you get to remove the Animals who are running the Zoo ??? 03-thumbsup

.

Wouldn't work. If an outside country tried to do that, the Iranians would think of it as an imperialist action and fight to keep their mullah-dominated society. I think the backlash would wipe out any benefits. Would be nice if it would worked though.


RE: Iranian Pres. Ahmadinejad Clashes with Pres.Candidate Mir Hossein in Televised Debate - WoodlandsOwl - 06-12-2009 05:36 PM

Iranian National TV declares Mahmoud the winner.... But its run by one of his cronies.