(01-31-2009 11:43 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  So what's your issue. Or do you just like crapping on the Pledge of Allegiance?

(02-01-2009 12:33 AM)Rebel Wrote:  

(01-31-2009 11:43 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  So what's your issue. Or do you just like crapping on the Pledge of Allegiance?

**** the Pledge. It was written by a Baptist Socialist and smacks the face of all that is our individualistic being.

(02-01-2009 12:33 AM)Rebel Wrote:  

(01-31-2009 11:43 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  So what's your issue. Or do you just like crapping on the Pledge of Allegiance?

**** the Pledge. It was written by a Baptist Socialist and smacks the face of all that is our individualistic being.

(02-01-2009 03:26 AM)I45owl Wrote:  

(02-01-2009 12:33 AM)Rebel Wrote:  

(01-31-2009 11:43 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  So what's your issue. Or do you just like crapping on the Pledge of Allegiance?

**** the Pledge. It was written by a Baptist Socialist and smacks the face of all that is our individualistic being.

All true, but hey, it was good enough for McCarthy, wasn't it?

(02-01-2009 03:10 PM)jh Wrote:  Not really. He had it changed to include "under God."

Well now that Ogodabama in 'In Da Howze', this phrasing is most appropriate.

I mean now it has that, you know, "Contemporary Theme" hanging with it ...

See What I'm saying ....

(02-01-2009 11:07 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Yep..The pledge was written by German Nationalist Socialist flag salesman named Bellamy...I saw a picture of school children actually saluting the flag with the "Roman Salute" After the rise of the Nazi's...We changed to putting our hand over our heart. I recite the pledge simply because it is a tradition...but...I understand that it is collectivist in nature and I really could do without it.

(02-01-2009 10:19 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(02-01-2009 11:07 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Yep..The pledge was written by German Nationalist Socialist flag salesman named Bellamy...I saw a picture of school children actually saluting the flag with the "Roman Salute" After the rise of the Nazi's...We changed to putting our hand over our heart. I recite the pledge simply because it is a tradition...but...I understand that it is collectivist in nature and I really could do without it.

Instead of any pledge to Uncle Sugar AKA Big Fed, our children should be reciting portions of the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution.

(02-01-2009 10:40 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-01-2009 10:19 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Instead of any pledge to Uncle Sugar AKA Big Fed, our children should be reciting portions of the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution.

I'd rather there be no pledges....Instead....People just agree respect each others property rights and do each other no harm.

(02-01-2009 10:51 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(02-01-2009 10:40 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-01-2009 10:19 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Instead of any pledge to Uncle Sugar AKA Big Fed, our children should be reciting portions of the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution.

I'd rather there be no pledges....Instead....People just agree respect each others property rights and do each other no harm.

Reciting part of our founding documents isn't a pledge. It's part of civics.

(02-01-2009 10:58 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Fo, every society has its rituals. The way things are going I'm just gald we don't have to recite them in Spanish.

(02-01-2009 11:07 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-01-2009 10:58 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Fo, every society has its rituals. The way things are going I'm just gald we don't have to recite them in Spanish.

And I'm sure the Native Americans once felt the same way before us white folk decided to steal their land ,slaughter their people and subject them to our beliefs and rituals.

(02-01-2009 11:11 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-01-2009 11:07 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-01-2009 10:58 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Fo, every society has its rituals. The way things are going I'm just gald we don't have to recite them in Spanish.

And I'm sure the Native Americans once felt the same way before us white folk decided to steal their land ,slaughter their people and subject them to our beliefs and rituals.

History is full of examples of conquered people taking on the life style of the conquerers. Are we next?

BTW, Out here the average Indian gets $15,000 a month tax free from their casino entitlements. I know some Indians are quite poor, but the ones with the cash seem to like the Americanization of their country.

(02-01-2009 11:26 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  I read an article in US World and World report several years ago that gave a very different view of the AI casino business...Very few actually profit much nationwide from the business...and so what? Do you have a problem with people profiting from business?

(02-01-2009 10:56 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Reciting documents does not make one free. If I have to abide by others wishes...I am a slave.

(02-01-2009 11:07 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-01-2009 10:58 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Fo, every society has its rituals. The way things are going I'm just gald we don't have to recite them in Spanish.

And I'm sure the Native Americans once felt the same way before us white folk decided to steal their land ,slaughter their people and subject them to our beliefs and rituals.

(02-01-2009 11:31 PM)Rebel Wrote:  

(02-01-2009 10:56 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Reciting documents does not make one free. If I have to abide by others wishes...I am a slave.

Fo, it's got nothing to do with just reciting documents. It has something to do with educating our children on the foundation of this country which I think we've deviated from IMMENSELY. We're raising a buncha damn dumbasses because Civics has taken a backseat to feel-good politically-correct bull****.