Quote:...the ACLU supports NAMBLA

Motown Bronco Wrote:

Quote:...the ACLU supports NAMBLA

Now, this I didn't know. I wouldn't mind seeing a link to a story on this one. Seeing as how sex with a minor is not only illegal, but also considered coersion, I don't understand how any libertarian ("civil" or otherwise) would support this organization.

KlutzDio I Wrote:So RebelKev, you're a Libertarian?

Have you got into any Nozick?

If so, what do you think?

Motown Bronco Wrote:Sorry, klutz, but my facts are in order. You just needed to watch from the sidelines and wait around a little while. :rolleyes:

I didn't ask joeborden for the PolySci 101 textbook definition of the ACLU, I asked joeborden for his personal point of view. Based on his response, I was going to see if he supports classical/traditional liberalism as would've been championed by Ayn Rand or Adam Smith, or merely existing "civil liberties" not already restricted or regulated by law. Obviously, he's likely the latter, and I was going to make the brief comparison between traditional liberty and today's "civil liberty".

BTW... True liberty proponents are upset that Tommy Chong is being sent to prison (filled with violent scumbags) for 9 months for selling bongs over the Internet. (An honest question...) What is the ACLU's official position on a case like this?

RebelKev Wrote:He's a little too much of an anarchist for me. I agree with rules and laws so long as they don't hinder my right to do anything I want without affecting someone else's rights. I am for limited government because I feel the bigger the government, the fewer the rights we have (It's a survival instinct). I don't agree with everything Bush has done but feel the Democrats would be worse. Also, they are lost in their own hunger for power because they could find MUCH more to ***** about but choose to complain about things that weren't even Bush's fault to begin with. Ie. bitching about the war and other issues even though they voted for it.

I disagree with every party to an extent. I do not agree with the LP's isolationist stance and do not believe in partial birth abortion.

T-Monay820 Wrote::stupid:

rickheel Wrote:Sad thing is that is where he gets his news.

Motown Bronco Wrote:joeborden,

Your signature reads that you are a "card carrying member of the ACLU". ACLU, of course, contains the word liberty.

So tell me, do you support the purchase a gun to hunt or protect a home? Do you support a worker to have the liberty of keeping most (if not all) of his/her earned income? Do you support an employer having the liberty to hire the best candidate that he/she feels is best for the job, rather than adhere to federally-mandated quota based on discriminatory skin color? Do you support the idea of a consumer to purchase what he likes from whatever country its manufactured, without the blockade of tariffs and trade quotas created by the state to placate Big Union lobbyists? Do you support a parent to have the liberty of selecting which school and which district to send their child, even if its homeschooling, and receive a refund in their taxes that were going to public schools? Do you support a consumer's choice in which type of vehicle to buy, whether its a diesel VW or a Hummer H2? Do you support an elderly man's decision to allocate his own wealth to his closest relatives, without the government "double dip" taxing the amount again via coersion?

Answering "no" to any of these questions makes me wonder about your commitment to true traditional liberty.

BTW, did "Tom Tomorrow" create a similar cartoon when the US bombed the crapola out of Bosnia and Serbia, against another dictator who possessed zero threat to the United States?