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- Herd Fan 4-Life - 12-07-2004 10:21 PM

<a href='http://msn.foxsports.com/story/3215464' target='_blank'>http://msn.foxsports.com/story/3215464</a>

- flyingswoosh - 12-08-2004 07:29 PM

i wonder how many of those people who commented, are football or NBA fans?

- GDawgs88 - 12-09-2004 03:10 PM

flyingswoosh Wrote:i wonder how many of those people who commented, are football or NBA fans?
What difference does that make? Football is by far my favorite sport but that doesn't mean I can't have an opinion on this because I also happen to love baseball.

- flyingswoosh - 12-09-2004 06:33 PM

GDawgs88 Wrote:
flyingswoosh Wrote:i wonder how many of those people who commented, are football or NBA fans?
What difference does that make? Football is by far my favorite sport but that doesn't mean I can't have an opinion on this because I also happen to love baseball.
that isn't my point. my point is that all of those people were extremely angry about some MLB players taking steroids, but seem to have no problem with the multitude of football and basketball players on steroids.

- GDawgs88 - 12-09-2004 06:56 PM

Oh, sorry for not understanding you on that.

- Herd Fan 4-Life - 12-09-2004 08:16 PM

``This is not about who's better than someone else; this is about who's stronger than someone else,'' Torre said. ``I think baseball players will have to push for changes to make sure they've got the trust of the fans. That's what this is all about. The only way you get to do this is to get both parties to come together on this.''

Torre said baseball cannot allow its most sacred records to be tainted by scandal or doubt.

``Statistics are such a big part of baseball because the rules haven't changed over the years,'' he said.


<a href='http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylc=X3oDMTBpcDBuM2RlBF9TAzk1ODYxNzc3BHNlYwN0aA--?slug=ap-yankees-giambi&prov=ap&type=lgns' target='_blank'>http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylc=X3oD...ov=ap&type=lgns</a>

- Herd Fan 4-Life - 12-11-2004 09:48 PM

Jeff Kent speaks out.....


``This has been going on too long,'' Kent said. ``They didn't fix it right the first time, and I'm hoping they fix it right this time. It's sad to see that some families are keeping their kids away from the game because the guys are cheating.''


<a href='http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-kent-steroids&prov=ap&type=lgns' target='_blank'>http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-k...ov=ap&type=lgns</a>

- flyingswoosh - 12-11-2004 10:28 PM

Herd Fan 4-Life Wrote:Jeff Kent speaks out.....


``This has been going on too long,'' Kent said. ``They didn't fix it right the first time, and I'm hoping they fix it right this time. It's sad to see that some families are keeping their kids away from the game because the guys are cheating.''


<a href='http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-kent-steroids&prov=ap&type=lgns' target='_blank'>http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-k...ov=ap&type=lgns</a>
i'm just curious, as to why you are posting all of these negative quotes, and have coincidentally skipped over the quotes an articles in which they believe bonds' testimony. i'm not saying i believe bonds, but i think you are posting in an extremely biased way. i don't think it's fair to the people who read the posts on this forum, that the person who we regard as the one who posts a lot of news articles (you), is doing it in such a biased way.

- Herd Fan 4-Life - 12-12-2004 03:11 AM

I'm not forcing you to read anything. I happen to agree with them 100%!

- flyingswoosh - 12-12-2004 12:05 PM

Herd Fan 4-Life Wrote:I'm not forcing you to read anything. I happen to agree with them 100%!
i'm not trying to start an arguement here. i'm just saying that our news source should be unbiased.

- GDawgs88 - 12-13-2004 10:22 PM

swoosh, you're free to post whatever you want.

- flyingswoosh - 12-13-2004 11:04 PM

GDawgs88 Wrote:swoosh, you're free to post whatever you want.
i understand that. and i'm also not worrying about ME being swayed, i'm worried about the random passerby on this forum, who trust herdfan for their news. that's all i'm saying.

- GDawgs88 - 12-13-2004 11:20 PM

Well, everything that Herd-Fan is posting is legit stuff. It's not like he made it up or anything. It's real news from real sites.

- Herd Fan 4-Life - 12-13-2004 11:23 PM

Swoosh,

I guess it bothers you more than others because you are a Bonds fan. I'm not trying to get under your skin, for as much as you like Bonds, I dislike him just as much.

And also, if people are looking to me as their news source...well, I just didn't know anyone lived that far underground. :wave:

I'll try to be more partial, however, the only person that has taken Bonds' side that I have seen has been Dusty Baker. I dislike him almost as Baroid...so I won't post any news from his mouth.

- flyingswoosh - 12-14-2004 08:37 AM

Herd Fan 4-Life Wrote:Swoosh,

I guess it bothers you more than others because you are a Bonds fan. I'm not trying to get under your skin, for as much as you like Bonds, I dislike him just as much.

And also, if people are looking to me as their news source...well, I just didn't know anyone lived that far underground. :wave:

I'll try to be more partial, however, the only person that has taken Bonds' side that I have seen has been Dusty Baker. I dislike him almost as Baroid...so I won't post any news from his mouth.
(i'll just post this diclaimer) as i said before, i don't want to start an argument here, and you don't seem to want to either. But i honestly think that many people regard you as their baseball news source. I could be very wrong, but...oh well. As for only one person believing bonds, well, that's wrong. skip bayliss believes him, i think rick reilly does, and there are some others.

- Herd Fan 4-Life - 12-14-2004 12:21 PM

Ok. How about this. I won't post anymore on it. I'm truly not trying to start anything. Sorry if you took offense.

- flyingswoosh - 12-14-2004 12:31 PM

Herd Fan 4-Life Wrote:Ok. How about this. I won't post anymore on it. I'm truly not trying to start anything. Sorry if you took offense.
no. i think you should keep posting, the articles that you choose. i just wanted to bring what you were doing, to your attention.

- GDawgs88 - 12-14-2004 04:29 PM

flyingswoosh Wrote:skip bayliss believes him, i think rick reilly does, and there are some others.
swoosh, pick up last week's Sports Illustrated. Rick Reilly doesn't believe Bonds. His whole article basically made Bonds out to be a cheater and a liar. It was pretty severe, but he made some good points.

- flyingswoosh - 12-14-2004 05:03 PM

GDawgs88 Wrote:
flyingswoosh Wrote:skip bayliss believes him, i think rick reilly does, and there are some others.
swoosh, pick up last week's Sports Illustrated. Rick Reilly doesn't believe Bonds. His whole article basically made Bonds out to be a cheater and a liar. It was pretty severe, but he made some good points.
oh, ok, thanks. that was just what i heard. we don't get sports illustrated anymore, on account of it being an awful sports magazine.

- GDawgs88 - 12-14-2004 05:07 PM

Sports Illustrated has gone downhill some, but I wouldn't call it an awful magazine. I just don't like some of the writers.