Schumer's 1 year Demand - CrimsonPhantom - 11-07-2025 03:15 PM
Quote: BREAKING: To REOPEN the government, Chuck Schumer demands Republicans pass the Obamacare subsidies for ONE YEAR, and commit to “negotiate.” https://x.com/GuntherEagleman/status/1986882691749339359/video/1
THIS IS DANGEROUS, setting up healthcare as a MIDTERM issue for the Dems!
Republicans can do ANYTHING they want with Obamacare if they nuke the filibuster and listen to Trump!
Senator John Thune ‘Willing to Give Democrats a Vote on All the Things They Want’ in Latest Negotiations to End Schumer’s Shutdown
Quote:Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-SD) declared he’s willing to give Democrats a vote on all the things they want in a desperate bid to end Chuck Schumer’s government shutdown, now dragging into its 37th day.
The Senate is scheduled to vote for the 15th time today on a stopgap funding bill to reopen the government. A growing bloc of Republicans, led by Thune, appear ready to cave to Democrat demands, the extension of Affordable Care Act (ACA) enhanced subsidies that have ballooned government spending.
Thune has reportedly offered Democrats post-shutdown votes on ACA and tax credits in exchange for reopening negotiations.
“I’m willing to give Democrats all the things they want,” Thune admitted on Friday, according to ZeroHedge.
Even with those concessions on the table, Democrats rejected a Thursday proposal to pass a continuing resolution that included three full-year appropriations bills, covering military construction, veterans’ affairs, agriculture, and the legislative branch.
Democrats want more ironclad assurances that the GOP and President Trump will renew the pandemic-era ACA subsidies, which are set to expire in January.
During an interview with Fox News’ Dana Perino, Thune tried to frame himself as “reasonable,” insisting that Democrats simply need to “take yes for an answer.” But his own words revealed a shocking willingness to cave.
Dana Perino:
One of the things I’m wondering, Senator, are we farther away from trying to get this settled today, on Friday, than we were on Monday?
John Thune:
Dana, the Democrats just have to take “yes” for an answer. We’ve given them everything, essentially, that they were asking for—the reasonable Democrats, not the crazy ones like what you just heard. But they literally, yesterday at their Democratic caucus meeting in the Senate, had a pep rally. I mean, they are celebrating this. It’s insane.
And what’s happening is the far left, which is the tail wagging the dog, is bullying the reasonable Democrats out of coming to the table. We have a proposal that they have been reviewing and looking at now for several days, mostly with things that they asked for, including a normal appropriations process. We open up the government; they get a vote on their Obamacare fix. They want to sit down, meet with the President on a path forward—he’s more than willing to do that. All those things are in play.
But they can’t take “yes” for an answer—for fear. I mean, these people are scared spitless of their base, and that’s what’s happening. Yesterday was a bullying session. The far left in the Democrat caucus bullied the reasonable ones out of coming to the table and settling this. I’m still hoping that these people are going to come to the table, and we’ll find out soon enough.
Dana Perino:
How do you plan to do that? I think that’s what’s interesting, because Democrats, following the elections on Tuesday—as Chris Murphy was just explaining there again—they feel emboldened. They want to dig in their heels. Do you need President Trump to weigh in more here? And how would you like him to do that?
John Thune:
Well, President Trump is more than willing to weigh in and to talk to the Democrats about a path forward on how to fix the unaffordability and unsustainability problems of Obamacare—a problem the Democrats created. The President is more than willing to help them fix that, but not while the government is being held hostage.
All the President is saying is, “I’ll open up the government, then let’s sit down and talk on a path forward.” That’s been offered up. I mean, I don’t know how you can be more reasonable. This is really a handful of Democrats—all we need is five to come forward. But they, again, are being bullied by their leadership, by the far left in this country.
As a consequence of that, you’ve got troops—men and women in uniform—going without pay. You’ve got women and children who are going to be going without WIC and food stamps.
You’ve got people working in airlines and airports, as you heard Secretary Duffy say earlier, and flight delays and everything that goes with that. The pain is multiplying for the American people. And the Democrats yesterday, at their caucus meeting, Dana—they were celebrating it. It was a big pep rally. And I just don’t know how you defend that to the American people who are the ones that are suffering.
Dana Perino:
I don’t know if this is the case, but I understand that one of the possibilities is to get the government funded until January. But if we have this same problem in January, what’s going to change on Obamacare? Because those subsidies are not going to get any less expensive.
John Thune:
Right. But I think we will have a normal appropriations plan. We have a path to the bills—that’s what we’ve got right now. We’ve got a three-bill package that’s passed the Senate already. We want to attach the CR to that now, get those three bills signed into law by the President, and get to work on the rest of the appropriations process.
That’s something the Democrats have said in the past that they want to do. But now, they’re running for cover. These people—they are afraid. They are scared. And that’s the challenge we have right now in dealing with the Democrats.
But I still think there are a handful of the reasonable ones who, as we wear into the weekend here—and by the way, we’re going to give them a vote later today on paying people who are working—but if they don’t, at some point, come to the table and open up the government, the American people are going to continue to suffer. I don’t know how they can sustain this position.
Dana Perino:
Could this go into Thanksgiving?
John Thune:
No, I don’t believe so. If it does, it’s going to be up to them. But honestly, I think, like I said, there’s a path forward here. All they have to do is take “yes” for an answer. We’ve offered them a solution. The President is willing to meet with them. I’m willing to give them the vote—all the things that they said they wanted.
This has now become a function of what I would call Trump Derangement Syndrome—nothing more, nothing less, nothing else. These folks in their caucus right now—they don’t care what the issue is. If President Trump is involved with it, they just want to fight.
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RE: Schumer's 1 year Demand - Eagleaidaholic - 11-07-2025 03:23 PM
Now, all of a sudden, Democrats are pro Health Insurance Corporations. Let's give them 10s of $billions dollars with no guarantee that insurance rates will decrease. Isn't the whole point of the Democrats is to "Lower the cost of 'Healthcare'"? I don't think feeding the monster makes it stop eating. It just makes it fatter.
RE: Schumer's 1 year Demand - Native Georgian - 11-07-2025 03:27 PM
(11-07-2025 03:23 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: I don't think feeding the monster makes it stop eating. It just makes it fatter.
This.
Whatever happens, happens. But it sure seems like the GOP is about to pay the “ransom” that Thune said he wouldn’t pay. And in exchange, GOP would get nothing except the chance to pay another ransom a year from now.
RE: Schumer's 1 year Demand - oruvoice - 11-07-2025 03:29 PM
What's it like to be so dependent on the government? Tom, Ballgag, Horseboy...any input?
There hasn't been a single thing that has affected me over the past month, due to the shutdown.
RE: Schumer's 1 year Demand - Eagleaidaholic - 11-07-2025 03:32 PM
(11-07-2025 03:27 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: (11-07-2025 03:23 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: I don't think feeding the monster makes it stop eating. It just makes it fatter.
This.
Whatever happens, happens. But it sure seems like the GOP is about to pay the “ransom” that Thune said he wouldn’t pay. And in exchange, GOP would get nothing except the chance to pay another ransom a year from now.
My wife didn't get paid last night and my son hasn't been paid in almost a month. I still say DO NOT give into these terrorists. A ransom is exactly what this is. Because you can bet your ass when/if the Democrats get in power and the Republicans don't vote to pass a CR, the Republicans will be to blame. The media in America has become Soviet style Propaganda. Let it ride. Run ads in the states the Democrat Senators that are up for re-election in that are up for grabs everyday saying how many times they have voted against opening the Government back up.
RE: Schumer's 1 year Demand - CardinalJim - 11-07-2025 03:40 PM
(11-07-2025 03:29 PM)oruvoice Wrote: What's it like to be so dependent on the government? Tom, Ballgag, Horseboy...any input?
There hasn't been a single thing that has affected me over the past month, due to the shutdown.
Beyond sending cash to my son and his wife, I’m right there with you. If my son, who is furloughed, didn’t work for the Department of War and my daughter in law didn’t work (without pay right now) for the Justice Department, I wouldn’t know the shutdown was going on.
I would rather send him cash than see the government reopen under the Draconian demands of Chuck Schumer.
RE: Schumer's 1 year Demand - CrimsonPhantom - 11-07-2025 03:42 PM
Quote:BREAKING: In a moment of defiance, Sen. John Thune’s office tells Chuck Schumer NO — he will NOT give into Chuck’s demands on Obamacare to reopen the government.
HOLD!
“Cracks are forming. After 38 days, Democrats abandon their original and equally unserious proposal. Extending the COVID bonuses *is* the negotiation — something that can only take place after the government reopens. Release the hostage. End the pain.” - office
Schumer's 1 year Demand - maximus - 11-07-2025 03:57 PM
Kill the FB and start with opening the government back up. Then on a daily basis until Trumps last day in office pass a piece of meaningful legislation that actually means something.
Borders and Immigration
Voter ID
Lower taxes...again
Social Security reform
Medicare reform
Health Insurance reform
I could go on until the cows come home.
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RE: Schumer's 1 year Demand - stinkfist - 11-07-2025 03:57 PM
in no way can you relent and maintain 'face' moving forward...
pass the CR and then get down to bidness ... regardless of the price to be paid...
giving up the filibuster is a death wish for our children and theirs ... fk TRUMP on that bs!!!
excoooooseee ... supposedly, nuts is one of those 'hailer to the chief' ... what a monster mistake that would turn into...
this is why politics suck fromunda cheese...
RE: Schumer's 1 year Demand - shere khan - 11-07-2025 03:58 PM
GFY Chuck
RE: Schumer's 1 year Demand - maximus - 11-07-2025 03:59 PM
(11-07-2025 03:57 PM)stinkfist Wrote: in no way can you relent and maintain 'face' moving forward...
pass the CR and then get down to bidness....
giving up the filibuster is a death wish for our children and theirs ... fk TRUMP on that bs!!!
excoooooseee ... supposedly, nuts is one of those 'hailer to the chief' ... what a monster mistake that would turn into...
this is why politics suck fromunda cheese...
The FB is a gamble at this point im willing to take.
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RE: Schumer's 1 year Demand - stinkfist - 11-07-2025 03:59 PM
(11-07-2025 03:42 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote: Quote:BREAKING: In a moment of defiance, Sen. John Thune’s office tells Chuck Schumer NO — he will NOT give into Chuck’s demands on Obamacare to reopen the government.
HOLD!
“Cracks are forming. After 38 days, Democrats abandon their original and equally unserious proposal. Extending the COVID bonuses *is* the negotiation — something that can only take place after the government reopens. Release the hostage. End the pain.” - office
hockey-puckin'-A!!!
fk those cocKKKsuckers...
RE: Schumer's 1 year Demand - Eldonabe - 11-07-2025 04:00 PM
Hard no on the filibuster..... It must stay in place. You will live by the sword and die by the sword if you open that can-o-worms.
RE: Schumer's 1 year Demand - stinkfist - 11-07-2025 04:00 PM
(11-07-2025 03:59 PM)maximus Wrote: (11-07-2025 03:57 PM)stinkfist Wrote: in no way can you relent and maintain 'face' moving forward...
pass the CR and then get down to bidness....
giving up the filibuster is a death wish for our children and theirs ... fk TRUMP on that bs!!!
excoooooseee ... supposedly, nuts is one of those 'hailer to the chief' ... what a monster mistake that would turn into...
this is why politics suck fromunda cheese...
The FB is a gamble at this point im willing to take.
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giving it up? ... fk that!!!
RE: Schumer's 1 year Demand - stinkfist - 11-07-2025 04:01 PM
(11-07-2025 04:00 PM)Eldonabe Wrote: Hard no on the filibuster..... It must stay in place. You will live by the sword and die by the sword if you open that can-o-worms.
at some point, you have to have a fk'n spine!!!
RE: Schumer's 1 year Demand - maximus - 11-07-2025 04:15 PM
(11-07-2025 04:00 PM)stinkfist Wrote: (11-07-2025 03:59 PM)maximus Wrote: (11-07-2025 03:57 PM)stinkfist Wrote: in no way can you relent and maintain 'face' moving forward...
pass the CR and then get down to bidness....
giving up the filibuster is a death wish for our children and theirs ... fk TRUMP on that bs!!!
excoooooseee ... supposedly, nuts is one of those 'hailer to the chief' ... what a monster mistake that would turn into...
this is why politics suck fromunda cheese...
The FB is a gamble at this point im willing to take.
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giving it up? ... fk that!!!
Yes but there has to be legislation waiting to hit the desk. Considerable legislation.
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RE: Schumer's 1 year Demand - TripleA - 11-07-2025 04:21 PM
(11-07-2025 03:57 PM)maximus Wrote: Kill the FB and start with opening the government back up. Then on a daily basis until Trumps last day in office pass a piece of meaningful legislation that actually means something.
Borders and Immigration
Voter ID
Lower taxes...again
Social Security reform
Medicare reform
Health Insurance reform
I could go on until the cows come home.
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I have actually watched the cows come home. Way more than once, lol.
Schumer's 1 year Demand - JMUDunk - 11-07-2025 04:44 PM
No fvcking way.
I’ve not read this deeply, but on the first glance?
No fvcking way.
Suckers
RE: Schumer's 1 year Demand - CardinalJim - 11-07-2025 04:50 PM
(11-07-2025 04:00 PM)Eldonabe Wrote: Hard no on the filibuster..... It must stay in place. You will live by the sword and die by the sword if you open that can-o-worms.
The filibuster is dead if Leftists ever get control of the Senate again. You don’t need to worry about what the Commies may do. Better start planning for and responding to what they will do.
Any party that openly promotes a Marxist isn’t worried about doing anything the right way. Thune and Johnson are now negotiating with a party that’s been captured by enemies of our Nation.
Walk away from any compromise. You don’t compromise with someone who is holding a knife to your throat.
RE: Schumer's 1 year Demand - TripleA - 11-07-2025 04:51 PM
Just say no. Easy peasy.
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