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It’s been 2 weeks - Oscar P - 02-12-2025 06:13 PM
Two weeks ago the WAC was done for. Word was, in two weeks major announcements were coming that would end the WAC. And it may still happen, but what’s up?
RE: It’s been 2 weeks - Outsider - 02-12-2025 09:27 PM
I don't think anyone will hear anything until March Madness is over.
RE: It’s been 2 weeks - UIWElite - 02-14-2025 04:34 PM
It’s been longer than that. Ever since GCU and Seattle announced they were leaving, nobody has been added. That tells you all you need to know.
RE: It’s been 2 weeks - Outsider - 02-14-2025 04:44 PM
(02-14-2025 04:34 PM)UIWElite Wrote: It’s been longer than that. Ever since GCU and Seattle announced they were leaving, nobody has been added. That tells you all you need to know.
Don't think that I would disagree with that.
RE: It’s been 2 weeks - Oscar P - 02-15-2025 01:28 PM
Yeah, just the expert “insiders” were saying it. Everyone wants the WAC to die, but everyone wants the WAC to survive at the same time.
Wish we had strong Leadership. The WAC absolutely could continue.
RE: It’s been 2 weeks - UIWElite - 02-15-2025 05:07 PM
(02-15-2025 01:28 PM)Oscar P Wrote: Wish we had strong Leadership. The WAC absolutely could continue.
No, not really. Lamar, SFA, and UTRGV all left to join the SLC. UIW never really left the SLC. No SLC team is joining the WAC. No other team wants to join the WAC because Tarleton has made it clear, they want to be in FBS.
No D2 team wants to transition to not have a conference in a few years. Not that there’s any D2 team west of Texas that want to move up anyway. So who are these teams that would join with “strong leadership”? There isn’t 1 D1 school that would be interested in joining at this point.
RE: It’s been 2 weeks - wewererebels - 02-15-2025 06:40 PM
(02-15-2025 05:07 PM)UIWElite Wrote:(02-15-2025 01:28 PM)Oscar P Wrote: Wish we had strong Leadership. The WAC absolutely could continue.
No, not really. Lamar, SFA, and UTRGV all left to join the SLC. UIW never really left the SLC. No SLC team is joining the WAC. No other team wants to join the WAC because Tarleton has made it clear, they want to be in FBS.
No D2 team wants to transition to not have a conference in a few years. Not that there’s any D2 team west of Texas that want to move up anyway. So who are these teams that would join with “strong leadership”? There isn’t 1 D1 school that would be interested in joining at this point.
UIW is ideal, having FCS football and no other D1 level programs. It's no wonder they chose to return to the incubator, as did Lamar and SFA. RGV appears to be just a short-time visitor to the SLC, since they evince higher ambitions. Expect them to follow Tarleton and Sam as soon as they can.
I agree with others above that WAC needs vision and leadership that seem to be lacking, and it's quite possible the strengths of WAC in basketball, baseball and Olympic sports will not be enough to save it. So much for the WAC weaknesses.
Are there some strengths that make the SLC a more attractive destination for the Texas schools? I'd love to hear your opinions.
RE: It’s been 2 weeks - UIWElite - 02-15-2025 07:18 PM
(02-15-2025 06:40 PM)wewererebels Wrote:(02-15-2025 05:07 PM)UIWElite Wrote:(02-15-2025 01:28 PM)Oscar P Wrote: Wish we had strong Leadership. The WAC absolutely could continue.
No, not really. Lamar, SFA, and UTRGV all left to join the SLC. UIW never really left the SLC. No SLC team is joining the WAC. No other team wants to join the WAC because Tarleton has made it clear, they want to be in FBS.
No D2 team wants to transition to not have a conference in a few years. Not that there’s any D2 team west of Texas that want to move up anyway. So who are these teams that would join with “strong leadership”? There isn’t 1 D1 school that would be interested in joining at this point.
UIW is ideal, having FCS football and no other D1 level programs. It's no wonder they chose to return to the incubator, as did Lamar and SFA. RGV appears to be just a short-time visitor to the SLC, since they evince higher ambitions. Expect them to follow Tarleton and Sam as soon as they can.
I agree with others above that WAC needs vision and leadership that seem to be lacking, and it's quite possible the strengths of WAC in basketball, baseball and Olympic sports will not be enough to save it. So much for the WAC weaknesses.
Are there some strengths that make the SLC a more attractive destination for the Texas schools? I'd love to hear your opinions.
Um, no travel to Utah or California? And up to this year Seattle? The SLC has more than 8 members next year and 7 in 2026? I would call those strengths. The SLC doesn’t have 1 program pining for FBS out of the remaining 7 either. Those are their strengths. Did you need a breakdown of them?
RE: It’s been 2 weeks - wewererebels - 02-15-2025 07:40 PM
(02-15-2025 07:18 PM)UIWElite Wrote:(02-15-2025 06:40 PM)wewererebels Wrote:(02-15-2025 05:07 PM)UIWElite Wrote:(02-15-2025 01:28 PM)Oscar P Wrote: Wish we had strong Leadership. The WAC absolutely could continue.
No, not really. Lamar, SFA, and UTRGV all left to join the SLC. UIW never really left the SLC. No SLC team is joining the WAC. No other team wants to join the WAC because Tarleton has made it clear, they want to be in FBS.
No D2 team wants to transition to not have a conference in a few years. Not that there’s any D2 team west of Texas that want to move up anyway. So who are these teams that would join with “strong leadership”? There isn’t 1 D1 school that would be interested in joining at this point.
UIW is ideal, having FCS football and no other D1 level programs. It's no wonder they chose to return to the incubator, as did Lamar and SFA. RGV appears to be just a short-time visitor to the SLC, since they evince higher ambitions. Expect them to follow Tarleton and Sam as soon as they can.
I agree with others above that WAC needs vision and leadership that seem to be lacking, and it's quite possible the strengths of WAC in basketball, baseball and Olympic sports will not be enough to save it. So much for the WAC weaknesses.
Are there some strengths that make the SLC a more attractive destination for the Texas schools? I'd love to hear your opinions.
Um, no travel to Utah or California? And up to this year Seattle? The SLC has more than 8 members next year and 7 in 2026? I would call those strengths. The SLC doesn’t have 1 program pining for FBS out of the remaining 7 either. Those are their strengths. Did you need a breakdown of them?
That's great. Plus, you get to go to Louisiana and learn all the ways to pronounce Nakadish, Nachidoches, Nakadoches and Neches. What a great conference! Right up there with the Lone Star and Slumbelt!
RE: It’s been 2 weeks - UIWElite - 02-15-2025 11:52 PM
(02-15-2025 07:40 PM)wewererebels Wrote:(02-15-2025 07:18 PM)UIWElite Wrote:(02-15-2025 06:40 PM)wewererebels Wrote:(02-15-2025 05:07 PM)UIWElite Wrote:(02-15-2025 01:28 PM)Oscar P Wrote: Wish we had strong Leadership. The WAC absolutely could continue.
No, not really. Lamar, SFA, and UTRGV all left to join the SLC. UIW never really left the SLC. No SLC team is joining the WAC. No other team wants to join the WAC because Tarleton has made it clear, they want to be in FBS.
No D2 team wants to transition to not have a conference in a few years. Not that there’s any D2 team west of Texas that want to move up anyway. So who are these teams that would join with “strong leadership”? There isn’t 1 D1 school that would be interested in joining at this point.
UIW is ideal, having FCS football and no other D1 level programs. It's no wonder they chose to return to the incubator, as did Lamar and SFA. RGV appears to be just a short-time visitor to the SLC, since they evince higher ambitions. Expect them to follow Tarleton and Sam as soon as they can.
I agree with others above that WAC needs vision and leadership that seem to be lacking, and it's quite possible the strengths of WAC in basketball, baseball and Olympic sports will not be enough to save it. So much for the WAC weaknesses.
Are there some strengths that make the SLC a more attractive destination for the Texas schools? I'd love to hear your opinions.
Um, no travel to Utah or California? And up to this year Seattle? The SLC has more than 8 members next year and 7 in 2026? I would call those strengths. The SLC doesn’t have 1 program pining for FBS out of the remaining 7 either. Those are their strengths. Did you need a breakdown of them?
That's great. Plus, you get to go to Louisiana and learn all the ways to pronounce Nakadish, Nachidoches, Nakadoches and Neches. What a great conference! Right up there with the Lone Star and Slumbelt!
UTRGV and SFA apparently thought so! WAC is in solid shape if those 2 didn’t defect to the SLC.
RE: It’s been 2 weeks - FoUTASportscaster - 02-15-2025 11:59 PM
UTRGV has been wanting SLC membership for three decades. That's no secret. They would have bailed on whatever conference they were in at the time. Football finally the rest of their sports profile attractive.
SFA had a change in leadership and changed course, same as Lamar.
RE: It’s been 2 weeks - UIWElite - 02-16-2025 04:56 PM
(02-15-2025 11:59 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote: UTRGV has been wanting SLC membership for three decades. That's no secret. They would have bailed on whatever conference they were in at the time. Football finally the rest of their sports profile attractive.
SFA had a change in leadership and changed course, same as Lamar.
When Lamar, SFA, ACU, and SHSU left the SLC for the WAC, why didn’t UTRGV leave for the SLC then? The SLC would have taken them at that point.
SFA and Lamar might have had a change in leadership, but they still made informed decisions. At this point, you can argue they made the right decision to go back to the SLC.
All of your excuses don’t take away from the fact that the WAC is unable to get current D1 members or D2 members to join.
RE: It’s been 2 weeks - wewererebels - 02-16-2025 06:57 PM
(02-16-2025 04:56 PM)UIWElite Wrote:(02-15-2025 11:59 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote: UTRGV has been wanting SLC membership for three decades. That's no secret. They would have bailed on whatever conference they were in at the time. Football finally the rest of their sports profile attractive.
SFA had a change in leadership and changed course, same as Lamar.
When Lamar, SFA, ACU, and SHSU left the SLC for the WAC, why didn’t UTRGV leave for the SLC then? The SLC would have taken them at that point.
SFA and Lamar might have had a change in leadership, but they still made informed decisions. At this point, you can argue they made the right decision to go back to the SLC.
All of your excuses don’t take away from the fact that the WAC is unable to get current D1 members or D2 members to join.
It's too bad IW didn't measure up.
RE: It’s been 2 weeks - edinburger - 02-17-2025 06:30 PM
(02-16-2025 04:56 PM)UIWElite Wrote: When Lamar, SFA, ACU, and SHSU left the SLC for the WAC, why didn’t UTRGV leave for the SLC then? The SLC would have taken them at that point.
Maybe because the SLC itself was looking unstable at the time.
Been away for awhile and didn't realize the WAC was going through so much turmoil. Sorry to hear it.
RE: It’s been 2 weeks - RCI - 02-17-2025 09:33 PM
(02-15-2025 07:40 PM)wewererebels Wrote:(02-15-2025 07:18 PM)UIWElite Wrote:(02-15-2025 06:40 PM)wewererebels Wrote:(02-15-2025 05:07 PM)UIWElite Wrote:(02-15-2025 01:28 PM)Oscar P Wrote: Wish we had strong Leadership. The WAC absolutely could continue.
No, not really. Lamar, SFA, and UTRGV all left to join the SLC. UIW never really left the SLC. No SLC team is joining the WAC. No other team wants to join the WAC because Tarleton has made it clear, they want to be in FBS.
No D2 team wants to transition to not have a conference in a few years. Not that there’s any D2 team west of Texas that want to move up anyway. So who are these teams that would join with “strong leadership”? There isn’t 1 D1 school that would be interested in joining at this point.
UIW is ideal, having FCS football and no other D1 level programs. It's no wonder they chose to return to the incubator, as did Lamar and SFA. RGV appears to be just a short-time visitor to the SLC, since they evince higher ambitions. Expect them to follow Tarleton and Sam as soon as they can.
I agree with others above that WAC needs vision and leadership that seem to be lacking, and it's quite possible the strengths of WAC in basketball, baseball and Olympic sports will not be enough to save it. So much for the WAC weaknesses.
Are there some strengths that make the SLC a more attractive destination for the Texas schools? I'd love to hear your opinions.
Um, no travel to Utah or California? And up to this year Seattle? The SLC has more than 8 members next year and 7 in 2026? I would call those strengths. The SLC doesn’t have 1 program pining for FBS out of the remaining 7 either. Those are their strengths. Did you need a breakdown of them?
That's great. Plus, you get to go to Louisiana and learn all the ways to pronounce Nakadish, Nachidoches, Nakadoches and Neches. What a great conference! Right up there with the Lone Star and Slumbelt!
You left out when the Cajuns come to Texas to visit "Port R tour." But I do miss their music with a fiddle, accordion, harmonica, and washboard played with a spoon.
RE: It’s been 2 weeks - BlueDragon - 02-18-2025 10:34 AM
Seriously, this guy is crowing about a conference of broke Louisiana schools that don't want to go FBS. Of course they don't. They are subsidized by the state to actually be D1 schools. The Southland is basically a D2 Conference posing as a D1.
RE: It’s been 2 weeks - UIWElite - 02-18-2025 08:41 PM
(02-18-2025 10:34 AM)BlueDragon Wrote: Seriously, this guy is crowing about a conference of broke Louisiana schools that don't want to go FBS. Of course they don't. They are subsidized by the state to actually be D1 schools. The Southland is basically a D2 Conference posing as a D1.
I am in no way crowing about the SLC, only pointing out facts. If the SLC is basically a D2 conference, what does that say about the WAC? 3 schools left the WAC to join it and another backed out of joining.
RE: It’s been 2 weeks - Itinerant Texan - 02-18-2025 09:35 PM
(02-18-2025 08:41 PM)UIWElite Wrote:(02-18-2025 10:34 AM)BlueDragon Wrote: Seriously, this guy is crowing about a conference of broke Louisiana schools that don't want to go FBS. Of course they don't. They are subsidized by the state to actually be D1 schools. The Southland is basically a D2 Conference posing as a D1.
I am in no way crowing about the SLC, only pointing out facts. If the SLC is basically a D2 conference, what does that say about the WAC? 3 schools left the WAC to join it and another backed out of joining.
Dude if Tarleton, ACU and UTA were to move to the SLC, they OWN the SLC. That's the difference. Level of competition is superior, more exposure and no Louisiana schools to pacify. I personally think the WAC will (and should) survive. WAC > SLC
RE: It’s been 2 weeks - UIWElite - 02-18-2025 11:58 PM
(02-18-2025 09:35 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:(02-18-2025 08:41 PM)UIWElite Wrote:(02-18-2025 10:34 AM)BlueDragon Wrote: Seriously, this guy is crowing about a conference of broke Louisiana schools that don't want to go FBS. Of course they don't. They are subsidized by the state to actually be D1 schools. The Southland is basically a D2 Conference posing as a D1.
I am in no way crowing about the SLC, only pointing out facts. If the SLC is basically a D2 conference, what does that say about the WAC? 3 schools left the WAC to join it and another backed out of joining.
Dude if Tarleton, ACU and UTA were to move to the SLC, they OWN the SLC. That's the difference. Level of competition is superior, more exposure and no Louisiana schools to pacify. I personally think the WAC will (and should) survive. WAC > SLC
East Texas A&M has only won 3 games this season and 1 of them was over ACU. ACU also lost to SFA. Pretty good job of ownage right there.
RE: It’s been 2 weeks - Spolovilo4EVER - 02-19-2025 01:33 AM
I hope the WAC survives, it only benefits the P4/5 ( Big East) if it does not. 9/10 times the WACS autobid spot will go to a 12 place team of a P4 School like Cincy or Rutgers or someone like that and not to another mid major. The Schools will be dispersed to other conferences, ballooning them and only making it harder for a school to make the Big Dance. We will be just fine no matter what happens, but It would be a shame for WAC to go away.