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RE: Franken to resign Thursday - UCGrad1992 - 12-07-2017 09:06 PM
(12-07-2017 08:37 PM)usmbacker Wrote: ABC’s Rick Klein: Franken Didn’t Show Any Contrition In Resignation Speech
He never owned up to doing anything. Plus, if the Dems were really outraged, they would make him resign right away, not weeks from now. They want him around for some big votes coming up.
Yep. He will resign in the "coming weeks." A champion of women? Of course Trump had to come up. Frankenblame.
RE: Franken to resign Thursday - bullet - 12-08-2017 12:30 AM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/was-al-frankens-punishment-fair/2017/12/07/6296f580-db99-11e7-a841-2066faf731ef_story.html?utm_term=.402dd4710b9a
I see David gets his talking points from the lead hypocrite, the one who was singing Bill's praises just a couple of years ago:
“Enough is enough,” Gillibrand said. “When we start having to talk about the differences between sexual assault and sexual harassment and unwanted groping, we are having the wrong conversation. We need to draw a line in the sand and say none of it is okay, none of it is acceptable.”
RE: Franken to resign Thursday - bullet - 12-08-2017 12:32 AM
The article points out that nobody is calling for Menendez to resign. However the Democrats might well do that once the Republican governor Chris Christie's term is up. Franken and Conyers will both be replaced by Democrats. Bill Clinton is gone, so they can criticize him all they want now.
RE: Franken to resign Thursday - Marc Mensa - 12-08-2017 07:40 AM
Refreshing to see Democrats held to a higher standard.
RE: Franken to resign Thursday - Owl 69/70/75 - 12-08-2017 07:49 AM
(12-08-2017 07:40 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Refreshing to see Democrats held to a higher standard.
How so?
Franken to resign Thursday - JMUDunk - 12-08-2017 08:57 AM
(12-08-2017 07:40 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Refreshing to see Democrats held to a higher standard.
Lol
Higher than the last 3-4 decades?
Perhaps.
We’ll see, these dim chips ain done fallin by any stretch. Harold Edsall, anyone?
Could well consume both sides of the “aisle” IOWS ALL the Swamp critters.
This would be me shedding a tear
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RE: Franken to resign Thursday - DaSaintFan - 12-08-2017 09:05 AM
(12-07-2017 11:58 AM)usmbacker Wrote: Franken basically just said...
"I am innocent, but I am resigning anyway."
You can't have it both ways Al. If you are resigning, you are admitting guilt. If innocent, why would you resign. He even took time to bash Trump in his pitiful resignation speech.
Latest rumour that I've heard:
None of these pass transgressions were enough to force him to even offer to step-down, as they (appear to have) occurred before his Senate career started.
So there's something out there that occurred while he is a US Senator that's going to be ugly. He's trying to give the appearance of stepping down before whatever is possibly around the corner comes to light, or maybe even prevent it from coming to light. (that's why he noted : ".. in a couple of weeks'.)
Quote:Franken is a POS that many thought stole the election.
I wont' say Franken stole it.. I will say that I think the DNC pulled some very dirty fraudulent moves to get Franken that seat though.
RE: Franken to resign Thursday - bullet - 12-08-2017 09:54 AM
(12-08-2017 09:05 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:(12-07-2017 11:58 AM)usmbacker Wrote: Franken basically just said...
"I am innocent, but I am resigning anyway."
You can't have it both ways Al. If you are resigning, you are admitting guilt. If innocent, why would you resign. He even took time to bash Trump in his pitiful resignation speech.
Latest rumour that I've heard:
None of these pass transgressions were enough to force him to even offer to step-down, as they (appear to have) occurred before his Senate career started.
So there's something out there that occurred while he is a US Senator that's going to be ugly. He's trying to give the appearance of stepping down before whatever is possibly around the corner comes to light, or maybe even prevent it from coming to light. (that's why he noted : ".. in a couple of weeks'.)
Quote:Franken is a POS that many thought stole the election.
I wont' say Franken stole it.. I will say that I think the DNC pulled some very dirty fraudulent moves to get Franken that seat though.
There is nothing more un-Democratic than a bunch of people sitting around a table trying to read voter's minds. If they can't make themselves clear, it shouldn't count. I think the voting recount exercise was earnest, but it was idiotic.
RE: Franken to resign Thursday - bullet - 12-08-2017 09:57 AM
(12-08-2017 09:05 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:(12-07-2017 11:58 AM)usmbacker Wrote: Franken basically just said...
"I am innocent, but I am resigning anyway."
You can't have it both ways Al. If you are resigning, you are admitting guilt. If innocent, why would you resign. He even took time to bash Trump in his pitiful resignation speech.
Latest rumour that I've heard:
None of these pass transgressions were enough to force him to even offer to step-down, as they (appear to have) occurred before his Senate career started.
So there's something out there that occurred while he is a US Senator that's going to be ugly. He's trying to give the appearance of stepping down before whatever is possibly around the corner comes to light, or maybe even prevent it from coming to light. (that's why he noted : ".. in a couple of weeks'.)
Quote:Franken is a POS that many thought stole the election.
I wont' say Franken stole it.. I will say that I think the DNC pulled some very dirty fraudulent moves to get Franken that seat though.
Of course, nobody knew about these things when he ran. Pretty weak opposition research. I think what he did to that woman on the USO Tour was enough. Forcing his tongue down her throat was bad enough. But he took the picture and then gave it to her after she rejected him. That was a threat. "See what I can do to you?"
RE: Franken to resign Thursday - ECUGrad07 - 12-08-2017 09:57 AM
He basically said:
"Half of the women accusing me are lying, and the other half misinterpreted my actions. I'll resign, but I'd win if it came to it because the Ethics committee would agree. Also, I'm resigning after the Alabama election to see if Roy Moore wins... because if he does, I'll resign so that my party can point to my resignation and DEMAND that the Republicans do the same. And THEN we go after Trump."
RE: Franken to resign Thursday - bullet - 12-08-2017 09:59 AM
(12-08-2017 09:57 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote: He basically said:
"Half of the women accusing me are lying, and the other half misinterpreted my actions. I'll resign, but I'd win if it came to it because the Ethics committee would agree. Also, I'm resigning after the Alabama election to see if Roy Moore wins... because if he does, I'll resign so that my party can point to my resignation and DEMAND that the Republicans do the same. And THEN we go after Trump."
Have the Minnesota governor appoint a Republican to replace Franken and then we'll talk.
RE: Franken to resign Thursday - Lord Stanley - 12-08-2017 10:17 AM
Franken's been run over by his own party.
He's nothing to them anymore, just yesterday's news and a distraction.
RE: Franken to resign Thursday - Owl 69/70/75 - 12-08-2017 10:17 AM
(12-08-2017 09:57 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote: He basically said:
"Half of the women accusing me are lying, and the other half misinterpreted my actions. I'll resign, but I'd win if it came to it because the Ethics committee would agree. Also, I'm resigning after the Alabama election to see if Roy Moore wins... because if he does, I'll resign so that my party can point to my resignation and DEMAND that the Republicans do the same. And THEN we go after Trump."
Pretty much the ultimate team over country statement.
If Moore does win, I hope the republicans boot him immediately.
RE: Franken to resign Thursday - ECUGrad07 - 12-08-2017 10:20 AM
(12-08-2017 10:17 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:(12-08-2017 09:57 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote: He basically said:
"Half of the women accusing me are lying, and the other half misinterpreted my actions. I'll resign, but I'd win if it came to it because the Ethics committee would agree. Also, I'm resigning after the Alabama election to see if Roy Moore wins... because if he does, I'll resign so that my party can point to my resignation and DEMAND that the Republicans do the same. And THEN we go after Trump."
Pretty much the ultimate team over country statement.
If Moore does win, I hope the republicans boot him immediately.
BS.
Did you listen to what Franken said? He said half the women are lying and the other half misinterpreted what he was doing.
He also said the ethics committee would agree.
He then said it's ironic that he has to resign but we have a President and Alabama candidate that are accused of the same.
Only problem is, there are no photos out there of Roy Moore grabbing a passed out woman's breasts. There is PROOF against Franken. There are ALLEGATIONS against Moore, which he denies.
Innocent until proven guilty. Unless you're a Republican, that is.
Franken's resignation is simply a tool to oust Moore if he wins, and go after their ultimate prize - Trump.
RE: Franken to resign Thursday - Owl 69/70/75 - 12-08-2017 10:26 AM
(12-08-2017 10:20 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote: BS.
Did you listen to what Franken said? He said half the women are lying and the other half misinterpreted what he was doing.
He also said the ethics committee would agree.
He then said it's ironic that he has to resign but we have a President and Alabama candidate that are accused of the same.
Only problem is, there are no photos out there of Roy Moore grabbing a passed out woman's breasts. There is PROOF against Franken. There are ALLEGATIONS against Moore, which he denies.
Innocent until proven guilty. Unless you're a Republican, that is.
Franken's resignation is simply a tool to oust Moore if he wins, and go after their ultimate prize - Trump.
I would hope they boot Moore because the guy is a wacko. And Alabama would replace him with another republican.
And if the party of Teddy "Blonde in the Pond" Kennedy tries to take this further, republicans have lots to take them to task for.
RE: Franken to resign Thursday - fsquid - 12-08-2017 12:34 PM
I think if that photo doesn't exist, this resignation never comes about.
RE: Franken to resign Thursday - Fo Shizzle - 12-08-2017 12:38 PM
(12-07-2017 11:50 AM)usmbacker Wrote:(12-07-2017 11:48 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:(12-07-2017 11:13 AM)JDTulane Wrote: As someone who believes the allegations vs. Moore... I would hope he drops out as well. This kind of behavior belongs nowhere near the highest political offices in the land. Trump included.
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RE: Franken to resign Thursday - Fitbud - 12-08-2017 12:39 PM
(12-08-2017 10:17 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote: Franken's been run over by his own party.
He's nothing to them anymore, just yesterday's news and a distraction.
And rightfully so. If only the Republican party has as much balls.
RE: Franken to resign Thursday - HeartOfDixie - 12-08-2017 12:41 PM
It makes me wonder what Franken has really done where he gets to grand stand as the sacrificial lamb.