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RE: Why the push to recognize Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel? - stinkfist - 12-07-2017 10:58 AM

(12-07-2017 10:57 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 10:54 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  I don't really care where they put our Embassy, I just hope it doesn't cause terrorist attacks.

It won't cause terrorist attacks.

We have to stop the idiotic Obama-era line of thinking that if we were just a little nicer to Islamic radicals, maybe they wouldn't hate us so much.

Trump moves the capitol to Jerusalem = Terror attacks blamed on that.
Trump keeps capitol in Tel Aviv = Terror attacks blamed on Travel Ban, Support of Israel, etc.

04-bow04-bow04-bow

you need to post more often.....


RE: Why the push to recognize Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel? - Fitbud - 12-07-2017 11:00 AM

(12-07-2017 10:57 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 10:54 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  I don't really care where they put our Embassy, I just hope it doesn't cause terrorist attacks.

It won't cause terrorist attacks.

We have to stop the idiotic Obama-era line of thinking that if we were just a little nicer to Islamic radicals, maybe they wouldn't hate us so much.

Trump moves the capitol to Jerusalem = Terror attacks blamed on that.
Trump keeps capitol in Tel Aviv = Terror attacks blamed on Travel Ban, Support of Israel, etc.

But we aren't at war with Islam. We are at war with a small percentage of radical Islamic terrorists.

If we want to keep it that way, we need to not aggravate the situation.


RE: Why the push to recognize Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel? - VA49er - 12-07-2017 11:01 AM

(12-07-2017 10:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 10:55 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 10:54 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  I don't really care where they put our Embassy, I just hope it doesn't cause terrorist attacks.

Well, to be honest, terrorist attacks will continue whether the embassy is moved or not. Moving an embassy will make no difference in that regard.

So you think moving the embassy will have zero effect? Then why move it?

Why not? Look, terrorist are going to attack for a variety of reasons so there is no reason to appease them by not doing something that may hurt their feelings. IMO, we should not take into account any terrorist "feelings" in anything we decide to do.


RE: Why the push to recognize Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel? - VA49er - 12-07-2017 11:02 AM

(12-07-2017 11:00 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 10:57 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 10:54 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  I don't really care where they put our Embassy, I just hope it doesn't cause terrorist attacks.

It won't cause terrorist attacks.

We have to stop the idiotic Obama-era line of thinking that if we were just a little nicer to Islamic radicals, maybe they wouldn't hate us so much.

Trump moves the capitol to Jerusalem = Terror attacks blamed on that.
Trump keeps capitol in Tel Aviv = Terror attacks blamed on Travel Ban, Support of Israel, etc.

But we aren't at war with Islam. We are at war with a small percentage of radical Islamic terrorists.

If we want to keep it that way, we need to not aggravate the situation.

Because not matter what we do it will somehow someway aggravate some situation. We should not make decisions based on what some terrorist thinks.


RE: Why the push to recognize Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel? - bullet - 12-07-2017 11:09 AM

We should stand up for the 1967 resolution. Which means that West Jerusalem is Israel.

We have been giving comfort to the anti-Semites and Terrorists for 20 years.


RE: Why the push to recognize Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel? - stinkfist - 12-07-2017 11:10 AM

(12-07-2017 11:00 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 10:57 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 10:54 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  I don't really care where they put our Embassy, I just hope it doesn't cause terrorist attacks.

It won't cause terrorist attacks.

We have to stop the idiotic Obama-era line of thinking that if we were just a little nicer to Islamic radicals, maybe they wouldn't hate us so much.

Trump moves the capitol to Jerusalem = Terror attacks blamed on that.
Trump keeps capitol in Tel Aviv = Terror attacks blamed on Travel Ban, Support of Israel, etc.

But we aren't at war with Islam. We are at war with a small percentage of radical Islamic terrorists.

If we want to keep it that way, we need to not aggravate the situation.

good grief charlie brown.....you fall for this [Image: tenor.gif] every time with your pacifist viewpoints....

it's hardly an enigma why weakness always loses.....


RE: Why the push to recognize Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel? - cb4029 - 12-07-2017 01:05 PM

(12-07-2017 07:21 AM)I45owl Wrote:  
(12-07-2017 06:14 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I'm surprised no one has mentioned his speech on Jerusalem and all the controversy it is producing on his slurred speech. Most people think he was having a problem with his dentures during it, and it's not a sign of anything health related.

I didn't know he had dentures. His teeth have always seemed incredibly white for someone in his 70's though so I guess I wouldn't be surprised to hear he's had extensive and expensive dental work done.

He seemed dehydrated to me, and the WH explanation was that his throat was dry. I don't think there's much to the whole thing... his speech has seemed similarly awkward before.
He's either on cocaine or he's dying.


RE: Why the push to recognize Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel? - Hambone10 - 12-07-2017 04:36 PM

(12-06-2017 10:55 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  
(12-06-2017 07:20 PM)miko33 Wrote:  If the U.S. stopped financially supporting Israel tomorrow, would they be able to make it on their own? Might as well make them our 52nd state after we grant Puerto Rico statehood...

Can’t wait for the U.S. to be completely out of the ME. Shale oil, nuke plants, wind, solar...all of it. **** the ME.

If the U.S. stopped financially supporting the Palestinians tomorrow, would they be able to make it on their own?

This....

that said, I've long supported alternative fuels and 'drill here' as a national security issue, regardless of the 'global warming' debate....

but Israel doesn't have much/any oil... so we don't support them for that reason. We support mostly Muslim countries for that reason.... which is part of why we don't let Israel eradicate the Palestinians and Iran (among others)

Note that Russia and China are friendly with Islam in the region at least somewhat because they are dependent on the oil as well, so our current involvement arguably deters global nuclear war.


RE: Why the push to recognize Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel? - NoDak - 12-07-2017 06:16 PM

(12-07-2017 04:36 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(12-06-2017 10:55 PM)memphistiger89 Wrote:  
(12-06-2017 07:20 PM)miko33 Wrote:  If the U.S. stopped financially supporting Israel tomorrow, would they be able to make it on their own? Might as well make them our 52nd state after we grant Puerto Rico statehood...

Can’t wait for the U.S. to be completely out of the ME. Shale oil, nuke plants, wind, solar...all of it. **** the ME.

If the U.S. stopped financially supporting the Palestinians tomorrow, would they be able to make it on their own?

This....

that said, I've long supported alternative fuels and 'drill here' as a national security issue, regardless of the 'global warming' debate....

Israel doesn't have much/any oil... so we don't support them for that reason. We support mostly Muslim countries for that reason.... which is part of why we don't let Israel eradicate the Palestinians and Iran (among others)
Noble Oil of the US found a major natural gas find in the eastern Mediterranean off Haifa called the Tamar field. That field has reserves making it one of the largest in the world making Israel nearly energy independent and let Israel vastly increase its Nat gas consumption from nearly zero. There are also plans on the books to build an underwater pipeline to Europe for Nat gas export.

Noble Oil is one of the few US international oil companies that dont deal with the Arab world, so they could not be threatened with retaliation.