(11-04-2026 01:49 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:46 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:42 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:40 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Making sure Iran can't produce a nuclear weapon is worth the price. I just want them to finish it up quicker.

still can't see what happened can you? He got played like a fiddle and based on the results last night it worked.

The Reps weren't going to win this election cycle no matter what, so whatever you're seeing I can't, doesn't matter either way. He had no coattails in 2024, so how was that supposed to get better this time?

Would it have been this bad had he wrapped Iran up sooner? Probably. Might have kept the Senate. Who knows?

He shouldn't have attacked Iran PERIOD until after the mid terms if at all. That's where you're completely wrong. That was an incredibly stupid idea. Trying to give him a tiny benefit of the doubt here... I think chances are decent he got some bad intel but his ego wouldn't let him wait until after the mid terms. Plus all the other stupid **** mentioned in here - just being a retard in general.

(11-04-2026 04:29 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:01 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Vance is wrong. It wasn't the war. And I am not even sure that it was the economy (but I am less certain on that point).

It was poor-quality candidates - - Darline Graham? Ken Paxton? And a president with disapproval ratings equivalent to 2016 Hillary Clinton who insisted on making the mid-terms about himself.

Then how do does that explain Greg Abbott in Texas? That was a good candidate that has run the state well---who nobody thought was in trouble. This was a perfect storm election. There were multiple factors that all combined to create an overwhelming storm that the Republicans had little chance of overcoming without a near historic mid-term Republican turnout.

We had a mid-term election where the president's party almost always loses seats. Additionally, the party was led by a president who has fumbled the Iran War, driven up gas prices, cozied up to a VERY unpopular Russian dictator, enacted tarriffs that increased prices, needlessly treated allies worse than enemies (the result of which is a Trump job approval rating in the low 30's). We have an economy where most young adults---along with most of the lower and middle class are facing an increasingly difficult affordability crisis where their standard of living is perceptibly falling---not rising. Then---I would agree---in some cases---you can add in the fact that the Republicans had some less than stellar candidates in some assorted races.

Overall---like I said----It was a perfect storm of factors that conspired to deliver a historic reversal for the Republicans.

(11-04-2026 03:57 PM)Todor Wrote:  Israel doesn’t care how they impact our elections because they own both sides.

We jump when they say so.

We see what they allow us to see, and hear what they feel we need to hear.

If someone disagrees with their objectives, that person gets destroyed.

(11-04-2026 08:04 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 08:00 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:18 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 12:27 PM)bullet Wrote:  It was the economy stupid. It was every day gas and food prices. Its not about actually being in the Persian Gulf. Its the higher gas prices and related inflation that are impacted by the war. That's a pain point every day for people.

The morons in maga-world ran on the economy in 2024, won because of it, then they proceeded to make things exponentially worse than the Biden administration ever did.

Then they doubled down, twiddling their thumbs about ballrooms, DEI, and other nonsensical things that simply don't matter. Very "let them eat cake." The cowardice or unwillingness of repubs' ability to stand up to Trump in his dumbest moments was noted.

Make no mistake - this belt-to-ass moment isn't about Iran. It didn't help their case any, but they had dug their own hole WELL before then.

How did I know that you'd be over here gloating? GTFO, we never liked you anyway. I bet you look just like one of the crazies we see hounding ICE and posting batcrap crazy videos on tik tok.

Politically she is a total quack.

(11-04-2026 01:47 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Lol at the prog filth climbing out of the woodwork today. They think their miserable lives are going to get better because government is gonna help them

Bwahahahahaha

(11-04-2026 04:19 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 04:08 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Wow, who needs football when we have so many arm chair quarterbacks here. Who cares how we lost the battle, we lost it because of this and that, there's no clear cut reason why we did. But, now Talafreako will have to prove that what he said in the end is not what he said in the beginning. To go the Scamburger route maybe but he for sure will have eyes on his doings. He's a liar and for sure he'll find another lie to fall to and stupid people who think this nutjob is a real Christian will still vote for him. If Talafreako is a Christian then Marx is too.

I'm tired of politics, I'm thinking of boycotting it...maybe, LOL.

Doesnt really matter. Talarico got in and will be free to show his true colors voting as a hard left progressive for the next 6 years. Nothing can be done about that. Texas Republicans who sat at home on election day will realize very quickly that sentencing Texans to Talarico for the next 6 years was about the dumbest thing they have ever done. The good news is---other than the Senate seat---the Democrat sweep of Texas statewide offices can and will be undone just 2 short years from now. Given the Texas Legislature only meets once every 2 years---the amount of damage they can do is fairly limited.

(11-04-2026 05:43 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  I do not like Vance or Rubio. I hope someone else runs.

Rubio is a Swamp Creature & Vance I don't think s/ win just b/c he was VP.

But the Swamp always wins.

(11-04-2026 08:00 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:18 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 12:27 PM)bullet Wrote:  It was the economy stupid. It was every day gas and food prices. Its not about actually being in the Persian Gulf. Its the higher gas prices and related inflation that are impacted by the war. That's a pain point every day for people.

The morons in maga-world ran on the economy in 2024, won because of it, then they proceeded to make things exponentially worse than the Biden administration ever did.

Then they doubled down, twiddling their thumbs about ballrooms, DEI, and other nonsensical things that simply don't matter. Very "let them eat cake." The cowardice or unwillingness of repubs' ability to stand up to Trump in his dumbest moments was noted.

Make no mistake - this belt-to-ass moment isn't about Iran. It didn't help their case any, but they had dug their own hole WELL before then.

How did I know that you'd be over here gloating? GTFO, we never liked you anyway. I bet you look just like one of the crazies we see hounding ICE and posting batcrap crazy videos on tik tok.

(11-04-2026 08:03 PM)bullet Wrote:  https://x.com/JDVance/status/2118004988433641835?s=42

Vance in his own words:

"...Well, that looks prophetic now. Our voters did show up. In Florida, for example, the electorate was 9 points more Republican than Democrat, just a couple points worse than 2024. Undoubtedly there were places we could have done better on turnout. But the main problem is not turnout. The main problem is that many people who voted for Trump/Vance in 2024 voted for Democrats in 2026.

There will be a lot of infighting and arguing over what happened and why that is. One of the pollsters I really respect told me that our economic messaging wasn’t sharp enough down the stretch. I’m sure that’s true.

But the real reason we lost is obvious to almost everyone.

Another pollster—one of the smartest people I know in politics, told me yesterday we’d lose the generic ballot by 13 points. I felt negative going into Tuesday, but even I was shocked by this. In his polling, he saw that a lot of Trump 2024 voters were angry and planning to vote for Democrats. He asked those voters who had abandoned us what would cause them to come back on our team. The top four answers, accounting for nearly all of the responses were:

1) End the war
2) Focus on cost of living/inflation
3) Put America First
4) Change our relationship to Israel..."

Maybe 4) is why the US dropped its 4 billion in aid. Its kind of a disturbing thing that many in both parties hate Israel.
2) and 3) are obvious. I think 1) is just that it interferes with 2) and 3). We aren't sending troops.

The Republican voters did NOT show up in Georgia. Georgia was one of those places with low turnout.

(11-04-2026 08:08 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:49 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:46 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:42 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:40 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Making sure Iran can't produce a nuclear weapon is worth the price. I just want them to finish it up quicker.

still can't see what happened can you? He got played like a fiddle and based on the results last night it worked.

The Reps weren't going to win this election cycle no matter what, so whatever you're seeing I can't, doesn't matter either way. He had no coattails in 2024, so how was that supposed to get better this time?

Would it have been this bad had he wrapped Iran up sooner? Probably. Might have kept the Senate. Who knows?

He shouldn't have attacked Iran PERIOD until after the mid terms if at all. That's where you're completely wrong. That was an incredibly stupid idea. Trying to give him a tiny benefit of the doubt here... I think chances are decent he got some bad intel but his ego wouldn't let him wait until after the mid terms. Plus all the other stupid **** mentioned in here - just being a retard in general.

You liked the idea of the world's leading sponsor of terrorism having nukes I see.

(11-04-2026 10:01 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 08:08 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:49 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:46 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:42 PM)b2b Wrote:   still can't see what happened can you? He got played like a fiddle and based on the results last night it worked.

The Reps weren't going to win this election cycle no matter what, so whatever you're seeing I can't, doesn't matter either way. He had no coattails in 2024, so how was that supposed to get better this time?

Would it have been this bad had he wrapped Iran up sooner? Probably. Might have kept the Senate. Who knows?

He shouldn't have attacked Iran PERIOD until after the mid terms if at all. That's where you're completely wrong. That was an incredibly stupid idea. Trying to give him a tiny benefit of the doubt here... I think chances are decent he got some bad intel but his ego wouldn't let him wait until after the mid terms. Plus all the other stupid **** mentioned in here - just being a retard in general.

You liked the idea of the world's leading sponsor of terrorism having nukes I see.

The war wasn't about stopping Iran from getting nukes, it was Netanyahu telling Trump to help him take out Iran's leadership and Trump deciding that Iran would be just as easy as Venzuela was. Iran requires a ton of boots on the ground to "win", and the country that came out of it afterwards would love us no more than Iraq does now. Is that worth losing thousands of young American lives, with the benefit of keeping a belligerent Iran from ever aiming nukes at us or our allies? I think it probably does, Trump thought he could achieve a win with little fallout by dropping $50b worth of bombs.

Iran ofc realized that hiking up oil prices would tank Trump in the midterms. How angry will Trump be about that? Angry enough to go into regime change mode? I hope so.

(11-04-2026 09:24 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:47 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Lol at the prog filth climbing out of the woodwork today. They think their miserable lives are going to get better because government is gonna help them

Bwahahahahaha

I noticed that a good number of lefties who were here previously and left, have suddenly shown up again. Tells you something.

(11-04-2026 06:49 PM)Crayton Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 04:29 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:01 PM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  Vance is wrong. It wasn't the war. And I am not even sure that it was the economy (but I am less certain on that point).

It was poor-quality candidates - - Darline Graham? Ken Paxton? And a president with disapproval ratings equivalent to 2016 Hillary Clinton who insisted on making the mid-terms about himself.

Then how do does that explain Greg Abbott in Texas? That was a good candidate that has run the state well---who nobody thought was in trouble. This was a perfect storm election. There were multiple factors that all combined to create an overwhelming storm that the Republicans had little chance of overcoming without a near historic mid-term Republican turnout.

We had a mid-term election where the president's party almost always loses seats. Additionally, the party was led by a president who has fumbled the Iran War, driven up gas prices, cozied up to a VERY unpopular Russian dictator, enacted tarriffs that increased prices, needlessly treated allies worse than enemies (the result of which is a Trump job approval rating in the low 30's). We have an economy where most young adults---along with most of the lower and middle class are facing an increasingly difficult affordability crisis where their standard of living is perceptibly falling---not rising. Then---I would agree---in some cases---you can add in the fact that the Republicans had some less than stellar candidates in some assorted races.

Overall---like I said----It was a perfect storm of factors that conspired to deliver a historic reversal for the Republicans.

Good analysis. I’ll add that the economy wasn’t appreciably different with Biden; it has just been “bad” for young adults and the lower/middle class since the pandemic. Trump just did a horrible job empathizing with those impacted.

I almost hope Trump works with the Democrats to finally fix the economy. Biden didn’t do it; Republicans didn’t the last 2 years. I’m not even sure HOW it can be fixed, but perhaps Trump+Democrats will produce a winning combo. He has some interesting ideas about state equity in AI.

(11-04-2026 09:24 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:47 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Lol at the prog filth climbing out of the woodwork today. They think their miserable lives are going to get better because government is gonna help them

Bwahahahahaha

I noticed that a good number of lefties who were here previously and left, have suddenly shown up again. Tells you something.

(Yesterday 12:01 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  There is also a good number of righties that have mysteriously disappeared.

(11-04-2026 12:01 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Vance is right. It was a f up from the start,

(11-04-2026 03:32 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:23 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  I'm convinced now that the NC GOP doesn't want to win state-wide election any more. Mark Robinson and Whatley have convinced me of that.

NC is just now VA. Blue creep down the coast.

(Yesterday 08:51 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 03:32 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 01:23 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  I'm convinced now that the NC GOP doesn't want to win state-wide election any more. Mark Robinson and Whatley have convinced me of that.

NC is just now VA. Blue creep down the coast.

I agree. I blame Covid. Due to work from home abilities, so many people escaped their previous states due to high taxes, high rent, etc for a cheaper and better life down south. And then went and voted for the exact things they escaped from.