(12-19-2017 09:16 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  

(12-19-2017 09:15 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  job creators........ trickle down.........

you guys have the vernacular down......... if only your policies were as half as successful as your vernacular.

No it's reality. I didn't get a job from a middle class person or a poor person.

You don't understand how an economy works, income inequality means absolutely nothing. Worry about YOU

Quote:Based on quarterly data released by the US Treasury, the debt at the end of 2008 — just before Obama took office — stood at roughly $10,699,805,000,000.

As of the third quarter of 2016, the most recent data available, the debt as Obama is set to leave office stood at $19,573,445,000,000.

Based on the website USdebtclock.com, which extrapolates the US national debt in real time based on committed government spending, the debt will be roughly $19.97 trillion when President-elect Donald Trump takes office on Friday.

Thus, the national debt under Obama will have grown by about $9 trillion, or an increase of 86%.

(12-19-2017 08:05 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  These tax cuts never pay for themselves. It’s just a straight up transfer of wealth to the GOP donor class. People that Trump campaigned on raising their taxes. Remember him saying I don’t need a tax cut the middle class does? Anyone? Then to ACTUALLY RAISE taxes on the middle class in 10 years. Puhhhhh THAT. TIC!!!!!! You just lost a Senate seat in Alabama boys. Keep pulling **** like this and watch how far you get flushed down the toilet. You’ve been conned by the reality tv Star.

(12-19-2017 09:13 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It just really bothers me that people who bitched and complained and cheered when the govt. shut down over funding issues are hypocritical when thios boondoggle is being pushing through. This massive 1.5 trillion straight up give away to the donor class. This tax bill is fixing shyt? It's not. There should be a corporate AMT at least. This process has been worse than anything that was done by the D's in 2008 and 2009 and I just hope the pay a similar political price.


Eric where above did I cite your name?

Also.... can you please cite where Obama added 9 trillion to the debt? ACtual citiations please.

Claim evidence and the Support.

CES

Facts out of thin air. Someone is quite good at that. Again...... please show "EVIDENCE" of Obama adding 9 trillion to our debt. Pleases and Thank Yous.

(12-19-2017 09:32 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  When you actually read the article that is posted. Something that this room never does you can see that Obama's terms coincides with a time period where R's controlled the purse strings. R's are in charge of 75% of that deficit you guys are bitching about!!!!!!!!! It's incredibly sad to me that we are 20 trillion in debt and we are even discussing this much less passing it!!!!

The job creators line is total BS too. This won't create the jobs that you polllyannas are singing. This is a dead ass give away to shareholders and CEO pay. It's a donor give away. Just wait to I post all of the carve outs.

(12-19-2017 11:20 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Actually the premise is correct.

In 10 years many tax payers will be paying more in taxes because the economy will be so awesome that we'll all be making, and spending, a lot more money!

Thanks Trump!