(11-04-2013 09:49 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  Normally I would advise UL to travel to finally prove they will travel. But if they can get a shot at Tulane by sticking at home...its probably a good idea for them and the conference. If its anyone else...think about traveling for a change.

I would agree depending upon the bowl game and matchup. If you simply mean the Go Daddy Bowl, then no we don't need to travel to Mobile in my opinion. I would rather play in the Super Dome, its a much better venue.

(11-04-2013 10:06 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 09:49 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  Normally I would advise UL to travel to finally prove they will travel. But if they can get a shot at Tulane by sticking at home...its probably a good idea for them and the conference. If its anyone else...think about traveling for a change.

I would agree depending upon the bowl game and matchup. If you simply mean the Go Daddy Bowl, then no we don't need to travel to Mobile in my opinion. I would rather play in the Super Dome, its a much better venue.

Better venue maybe. But really shows other bowls nothing about UL. If you took 25,000 to Mobile then you set yourself up to get far less flak as a choice for other bowls...like Liberty or something. Or catch less flak than NIU did for Orange. Just sayin'.

(11-04-2013 09:44 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 08:05 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  That's interesting.....Go Daddy, NO Bowl and Beef O'Brady will be at Cajun Field Thursday night.

Last year when the Cajuns knotched win #7, the invite came from the New Orleans Bowl. Think that'll happen this year too if the Cajuns can beat Troy?

Personally, if the Cajuns can get past Troy, I'd like to see them back in the New Orleans Bowl. How do you guys feel about that? Anyone prefer to see them in the GoDaddy Bowl? If so, why?

Actually, this year, the NOB can't really offer ULL a bid until they clinch the conference. The NOB is obligated to take the league champ this year.

Did not know that Tom. Is that something new or is there some sort of rotation where the bowl is obligated one year, and not the next?

Seems CrazyCajun answered the question for me. Some years ago, I thought the New Orleans Bowl automatically got the Belt conference champion and was surprised when the Cajuns went two years in a row without being champs.

(11-04-2013 10:13 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 10:06 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 09:49 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  Normally I would advise UL to travel to finally prove they will travel. But if they can get a shot at Tulane by sticking at home...its probably a good idea for them and the conference. If its anyone else...think about traveling for a change.

I would agree depending upon the bowl game and matchup. If you simply mean the Go Daddy Bowl, then no we don't need to travel to Mobile in my opinion. I would rather play in the Super Dome, its a much better venue.

Better venue maybe. But really shows other bowls nothing about UL. If you took 25,000 to Mobile then you set yourself up to get far less flak as a choice for other bowls...like Liberty or something. Or catch less flak than NIU did for Orange. Just sayin'.

Traveling to Mobile, which is only 4 hours from Lafayette doesn't prove much more then traveling to New Orleans. Its another minor bowl game as well, which will matter little to better bowls. IMO

The two in four rule went out the window the second Idaho joined for football. No way the NO Bowl wanted to be stuck with the Vandals if they could avoid it.

(11-04-2013 10:24 PM)AstroCajun Wrote:  The two in four rule went out the window the second Idaho joined for football. No way the NO Bowl wanted to be stuck with the Vandals if they could avoid it.

Okay, splain me something, what's the two in four rule?

(11-04-2013 10:27 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 10:24 PM)AstroCajun Wrote:  The two in four rule went out the window the second Idaho joined for football. No way the NO Bowl wanted to be stuck with the Vandals if they could avoid it.

Okay, splain me something, what's the two in four rule?

New Orleans Bowl for years was required to take the league champ 2 out of every 4 years. It was created when the Go Daddy signed on as a way to promise Mobile a shot at the Champion. The NO Bowl got first pick, and could take whoever they wanted, but twice out of every 4 years, that team had to be the champion.

Originally they were going to be obligated to take the champ this year because the last two seasons they did not take ASU, but the rule was removed when Idaho signed on.

I do think it would do UL some good in the future to travel to a bowl. If a decent bowl comes open for a Sun Belt school, how are the Cajuns going to convince them they can travel to a game more than an hour away?

(11-04-2013 10:36 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 10:27 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 10:24 PM)AstroCajun Wrote:  The two in four rule went out the window the second Idaho joined for football. No way the NO Bowl wanted to be stuck with the Vandals if they could avoid it.

Okay, splain me something, what's the two in four rule?

New Orleans Bowl for years was required to take the league champ 2 out of every 4 years. It was created when the Go Daddy signed on as a way to promise Mobile a shot at the Champion. The NO Bowl got first pick, and could take whoever they wanted, but twice out of every 4 years, that team had to be the champion.

Originally they were going to be obligated to take the champ this year because the last two seasons they did not take ASU, but the rule was removed when Idaho signed on.

Thanks Chiefsfan!! It's becoming clearer now.

(11-04-2013 10:37 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I do think it would do UL some good in the future to travel to a bowl. If a decent bowl comes open for a Sun Belt school, how are the Cajuns going to convince them they can travel to a game more than an hour away?

Two bowl games, two attendance records. I think that should be easily translatable for another bowl when taking a look at the Cajuns.

Many schools can't get a decent fan showing in the own stadium, which requires virtually zero travel.

(11-04-2013 10:56 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 10:37 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I do think it would do UL some good in the future to travel to a bowl. If a decent bowl comes open for a Sun Belt school, how are the Cajuns going to convince them they can travel to a game more than an hour away?

Two bowl games, two attendance records. I think that should be easily translatable for another bowl when taking a look at the Cajuns.

Many schools can't get a decent fan showing in the own stadium, which requires virtually zero travel.

Which is what you've accomplished traveling such a short distance.

300-400 miles is a different scenario altogether.

(11-04-2013 10:24 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 10:13 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 10:06 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 09:49 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  Normally I would advise UL to travel to finally prove they will travel. But if they can get a shot at Tulane by sticking at home...its probably a good idea for them and the conference. If its anyone else...think about traveling for a change.

I would agree depending upon the bowl game and matchup. If you simply mean the Go Daddy Bowl, then no we don't need to travel to Mobile in my opinion. I would rather play in the Super Dome, its a much better venue.

Better venue maybe. But really shows other bowls nothing about UL. If you took 25,000 to Mobile then you set yourself up to get far less flak as a choice for other bowls...like Liberty or something. Or catch less flak than NIU did for Orange. Just sayin'.

Traveling to Mobile, which is only 4 hours from Lafayette doesn't prove much more then traveling to New Orleans. Its another minor bowl game as well, which will matter little to better bowls. IMO

How long do you guys figure on NObowling? Will you choose NO over Camelia Bowl? Bahamas? Miami? NO will always be more convenient for your fans than those...and will always invite you. I'm not sure I understand the long-term advantage you are gaining.

(11-04-2013 11:00 PM)Senatobia Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 10:56 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 10:37 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I do think it would do UL some good in the future to travel to a bowl. If a decent bowl comes open for a Sun Belt school, how are the Cajuns going to convince them they can travel to a game more than an hour away?

Two bowl games, two attendance records. I think that should be easily translatable for another bowl when taking a look at the Cajuns.

Many schools can't get a decent fan showing in the own stadium, which requires virtually zero travel.

Which is what you've accomplished traveling such a short distance.

300-400 miles is a different scenario altogether.

Of course it is, but it's still a percentage game in the end. Fill Cajun Field and break attendance records year after year in even a nearby bowl, and eventually a bigger bowl is going to say, these guys are for real.

What I think is missing right now is filling Cajun field. Should be interesting to see attendance records on Thursday night.

(11-04-2013 11:10 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 10:24 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 10:13 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 10:06 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 09:49 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  Normally I would advise UL to travel to finally prove they will travel. But if they can get a shot at Tulane by sticking at home...its probably a good idea for them and the conference. If its anyone else...think about traveling for a change.

I would agree depending upon the bowl game and matchup. If you simply mean the Go Daddy Bowl, then no we don't need to travel to Mobile in my opinion. I would rather play in the Super Dome, its a much better venue.

Better venue maybe. But really shows other bowls nothing about UL. If you took 25,000 to Mobile then you set yourself up to get far less flak as a choice for other bowls...like Liberty or something. Or catch less flak than NIU did for Orange. Just sayin'.

Traveling to Mobile, which is only 4 hours from Lafayette doesn't prove much more then traveling to New Orleans. Its another minor bowl game as well, which will matter little to better bowls. IMO

How long do you guys figure on NObowling? Will you choose NO over Camelia Bowl? Bahamas? Miami? NO will always be more convenient for your fans than those...and will always invite you. I'm not sure I understand the long-term advantage you are gaining.

Don't speak for the administration but I certainly would like a shot at playing a BCS opponent in any Bowl. A matchup against any quality opponent that would help build your football program's resume is worth a look. Cajuns have played San Diego State and ECU the last two seasons, both programs are considered better. Playing any program that is considered better then those two might be worth the expenses.

(11-04-2013 11:10 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 10:24 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 10:13 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 10:06 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 09:49 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  Normally I would advise UL to travel to finally prove they will travel. But if they can get a shot at Tulane by sticking at home...its probably a good idea for them and the conference. If its anyone else...think about traveling for a change.

I would agree depending upon the bowl game and matchup. If you simply mean the Go Daddy Bowl, then no we don't need to travel to Mobile in my opinion. I would rather play in the Super Dome, its a much better venue.

Better venue maybe. But really shows other bowls nothing about UL. If you took 25,000 to Mobile then you set yourself up to get far less flak as a choice for other bowls...like Liberty or something. Or catch less flak than NIU did for Orange. Just sayin'.

Traveling to Mobile, which is only 4 hours from Lafayette doesn't prove much more then traveling to New Orleans. Its another minor bowl game as well, which will matter little to better bowls. IMO

How long do you guys figure on NObowling? Will you choose NO over Camelia Bowl? Bahamas? Miami? NO will always be more convenient for your fans than those...and will always invite you. I'm not sure I understand the long-term advantage you are gaining.

Good question and I guess I'd have to say it would depend on the quality of the competition.

I'm old-fashioned and believe that the game should be played for the fans first, other considerations thereafter.

New Orleans is a fun trip for Cajun fans and the city and surrounding area is loaded with Cajun alumni. When I attended USL a hundred years ago, the entire wing of my dorm floor were New Orleans area residents....and that was just on my floor. Honestly, I couldn't believe how many people traveled from that area to attend USL. I doubt that's changed much.

All things being equal competition-wise, I'd say a gameday experience in the Super Dome in front of 60,000 rabid fans would be significantly better than a bowl some number of hours farther way and with fewer fans.

Now, throw in a really stout competitor, and more fans will make the longer trip.

Just today for instance, the topic of N. Illinois came up....GoDaddy Bowl, etc....and I expressed interest in such a match up. However, a number of stAte fans said, "you want no part of N. Illinois". Why not? Play the best teams you can even if you're likely to lose, but if in the end they're all about equal, then play in the best venue possible. For the Cajuns right now, that's New Orleans.

Just my 2 cents.

(11-04-2013 10:37 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I do think it would do UL some good in the future to travel to a bowl. If a decent bowl comes open for a Sun Belt school, how are the Cajuns going to convince them they can travel to a game more than an hour away?

Chief take a look at MAPQUEST, New Orleans is 2 hours and 15 minutes from Lafayette. Everytime you guys mention it, the distance seems to grow shorter!

(11-04-2013 11:27 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 10:37 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I do think it would do UL some good in the future to travel to a bowl. If a decent bowl comes open for a Sun Belt school, how are the Cajuns going to convince them they can travel to a game more than an hour away?

Chief take a look at MAPQUEST, New Orleans is 2 hours and 15 minutes from Lafayette. Everytime you guys mention it, the distance seems to grow shorter!

I attached rockets to the back of my car a few weeks ago. Everything has been much faster since. My apologies.

If Fresno makes the Fiesta, and two of three of San Diego St, Wyoming and Colorado St don't become bowl eligible, one at large would open up.

MWC has

Vegas
Poinsettia
Hawaii
Armed Forces
Potato
New Mexico

If Fresno made the BCS, then it would look something like Boise, Utah St, SDSU, San Jose State, and UNLV for the MWC bowls. SunBelt fans should be rooting for Fresno to win out and Wyoming, San Diego St, and Colorado St to lose.

The extra bowl eligible Pac12 team is likely to wind up in the Poinsettia Bowl since Army is unlikely to get to 6 wins.

(11-04-2013 11:29 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 11:27 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-04-2013 10:37 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  I do think it would do UL some good in the future to travel to a bowl. If a decent bowl comes open for a Sun Belt school, how are the Cajuns going to convince them they can travel to a game more than an hour away?

Chief take a look at MAPQUEST, New Orleans is 2 hours and 15 minutes from Lafayette. Everytime you guys mention it, the distance seems to grow shorter!

I attached rockets to the back of my car a few weeks ago. Everything has been much faster since. My apologies.

No problem, but a trip to Mobile would be about the same as ASTATE traveling to Monroe. Four hours from my house, UL would have no problem selling almost as much tickets as it does to the NO Bowl.