(10-24-2013 02:17 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 02:15 PM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 12:24 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Alabama State wanting out of an HBCU league is a bit strange. I understand that of all the SWAC schools, they are by far the best funded and most ready to move, but they would be turning away decades of tradition with that move.

We want out of the SWAC and so do several others schools. We have all but accepted an invite to the MEAC though.

SWAC is run by a complete idiot, so I am not surprised.

To call him an idiot is a complete insult to idiots! He's so much worse than that.

ok, IF we add MoSt (or JMU) in all sports (don't know why they aren't being mentioned) and bring NMSU all sports, and keep Idaho football only ....
What does that make the number of teams for olympic sports?

Football would be 12 (split east vs west) with the conference championship game being played at the home field of the team with the best record.

olympics would be 13 or 14? Also would probably be split similar to football lines.

Would that be agreeable to all parties/fans?

UL (or anyone) would you stick around and not actively try to leave the SBC? Not saying you wouldn't jump if asked by the CUSA, but at least not constantly search for another conference?

(10-24-2013 02:27 PM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 02:17 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 02:15 PM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 12:24 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Alabama State wanting out of an HBCU league is a bit strange. I understand that of all the SWAC schools, they are by far the best funded and most ready to move, but they would be turning away decades of tradition with that move.

We want out of the SWAC and so do several others schools. We have all but accepted an invite to the MEAC though.

SWAC is run by a complete idiot, so I am not surprised.

To call him an idiot is a complete insult to idiots! He's so much worse than that.

just a question, but what is your average attendance? And that is a nice stadium.

(10-24-2013 02:24 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 12:37 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 12:26 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  Sounds like as soon as enough viable move-up candidates are identified, NMSU and Idaho will be shown the door....

The day we throw out two of the most respected academic universities in the Conference to accommodate some move-up wannabe cow colleges is the day I no longer want to be associated with this conference.

I want to be clear; I have no objection to us adding a regional university as our 12th member, though I would prefer another national doctoral research school. I just don't want us throwing anyone out to get them, regardless of footprint, and especially if the schools we want to toss are good academic schools, which both Idaho and NMSU are.

It should be important to GaSt to keep the conference as academically relevant as possible; after all, if Idaho and NMSU are gone, that only leaves GaSt, TxSt, UL and USA as National Doctoral Research Universities. With Idaho and NMSU, over half the conference fits in that category.

Forget someone there?

who makes this selection and how does a university make the list?
Basic requirements? Endowment size? number of doctorates offered? etc...
I know GSou is striving to be a top tier research university and moving to the FBS was part of achieving that goal.

(10-24-2013 02:24 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 12:37 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 12:26 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  Sounds like as soon as enough viable move-up candidates are identified, NMSU and Idaho will be shown the door....

The day we throw out two of the most respected academic universities in the Conference to accommodate some move-up wannabe cow colleges is the day I no longer want to be associated with this conference.

I want to be clear; I have no objection to us adding a regional university as our 12th member, though I would prefer another national doctoral research school. I just don't want us throwing anyone out to get them, regardless of footprint, and especially if the schools we want to toss are good academic schools, which both Idaho and NMSU are.

It should be important to GaSt to keep the conference as academically relevant as possible; after all, if Idaho and NMSU are gone, that only leaves GaSt, TxSt, UL and USA as National Doctoral Research Universities. With Idaho and NMSU, over half the conference fits in that category.

Forget someone there?

We plan on running you guys out WAY before any of this stuff comes to fruition.

I wonder if Southern Miss would be interested

(10-24-2013 02:48 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  I wonder if Southern Miss would be interested

CUSA > SBC...they'll stick to CUSA.

(10-24-2013 02:54 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 02:48 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  I wonder if Southern Miss would be interested

CUSA > SBC...they'll stick to CUSA.

In a few years, when the TV contracts catch up (assuming all things stay constant, which is a crazy assumption), they might be.

But the money, the history, the name value, and the bowl tie ins all go to CUSA right now.

(10-24-2013 02:54 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 02:48 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  I wonder if Southern Miss would be interested

CUSA > SBC...they'll stick to CUSA.

I'm not seeing it these days.

(10-24-2013 12:55 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  As a person from Alabama I sure hope it isn't Jacksonville St.. We have enough FBS teams in the state as it is.

Liberty would be a good addition.

Please say no to Liberty.

(10-24-2013 03:00 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  Please say no to Liberty.

Why not? Our government is already doing it. Sorry...couldn't pass up the opportunity.

(10-24-2013 03:03 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 03:00 PM)JoeJag Wrote:  Please say no to Liberty.

Why not? Our government is already doing it. Sorry...couldn't pass up the opportunity.

(10-24-2013 02:24 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 12:37 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 12:26 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  Sounds like as soon as enough viable move-up candidates are identified, NMSU and Idaho will be shown the door....

The day we throw out two of the most respected academic universities in the Conference to accommodate some move-up wannabe cow colleges is the day I no longer want to be associated with this conference.

I want to be clear; I have no objection to us adding a regional university as our 12th member, though I would prefer another national doctoral research school. I just don't want us throwing anyone out to get them, regardless of footprint, and especially if the schools we want to toss are good academic schools, which both Idaho and NMSU are.

It should be important to GaSt to keep the conference as academically relevant as possible; after all, if Idaho and NMSU are gone, that only leaves GaSt, TxSt, UL and USA as National Doctoral Research Universities. With Idaho and NMSU, over half the conference fits in that category.

Forget someone there?

Sorry; I was unaware of your status.

(10-24-2013 03:15 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 02:24 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 12:37 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 12:26 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  Sounds like as soon as enough viable move-up candidates are identified, NMSU and Idaho will be shown the door....

The day we throw out two of the most respected academic universities in the Conference to accommodate some move-up wannabe cow colleges is the day I no longer want to be associated with this conference.

I want to be clear; I have no objection to us adding a regional university as our 12th member, though I would prefer another national doctoral research school. I just don't want us throwing anyone out to get them, regardless of footprint, and especially if the schools we want to toss are good academic schools, which both Idaho and NMSU are.

It should be important to GaSt to keep the conference as academically relevant as possible; after all, if Idaho and NMSU are gone, that only leaves GaSt, TxSt, UL and USA as National Doctoral Research Universities. With Idaho and NMSU, over half the conference fits in that category.

Forget someone there?

Sorry; I was unaware of your status.

Exactly my point. I have no idea what each schools offer. Don't really care. We are talking about football, baseball, basketball, softball, I get that I don't want to be in a conference with DeVry, but does any of this other stuff matter???

(10-24-2013 12:37 PM)Vobserver Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 12:26 PM)Panthersville Wrote:  Sounds like as soon as enough viable move-up candidates are identified, NMSU and Idaho will be shown the door....

The day we throw out two of the most respected academic universities in the Conference to accommodate some move-up wannabe cow colleges is the day I no longer want to be associated with this conference.

I want to be clear; I have no objection to us adding a regional university as our 12th member, though I would prefer another national doctoral research school. I just don't want us throwing anyone out to get them, regardless of footprint, and especially if the schools we want to toss are good academic schools, which both Idaho and NMSU are.

It should be important to GaSt to keep the conference as academically relevant as possible; after all, if Idaho and NMSU are gone, that only leaves GaSt, TxSt, UL and USA as National Doctoral Research Universities. With Idaho and NMSU, over half the conference fits in that category.

We aren't on that list. I think we just became an emerging research. Still have a ways to go. But I agree that you don't kick out strong academic schools.

He is really pushing for Liberty. JMU is the top choice but a lot of that is also what the rest of the conference wants. He will push really hard and try to get schools to change their mind on Liberty if JMU says no IMO.

(10-24-2013 02:59 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 02:54 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 02:48 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  I wonder if Southern Miss would be interested

CUSA > SBC...they'll stick to CUSA.

I'm not seeing it these days.

$$$, TV exposure, bowl access, public perception...all tilted in favor of CUSA.

(10-24-2013 02:58 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 02:54 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 02:48 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  I wonder if Southern Miss would be interested

CUSA > SBC...they'll stick to CUSA.

In a few years, when the TV contracts catch up (assuming all things stay constant, which is a crazy assumption), they might be.

But the money, the history, the name value, and the bowl tie ins all go to CUSA right now.

CUSA lost: Memphis, UCF, Tulsa, ECU, Houston, Tulane, SMU...they backfilled from the SBC and FCS...their TV money will drop.

(10-24-2013 03:21 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 02:59 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 02:54 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 02:48 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  I wonder if Southern Miss would be interested

CUSA > SBC...they'll stick to CUSA.

I'm not seeing it these days.

$$$, TV exposure, bowl access, public perception...all tilted in favor of CUSA.

Short term, not sure if it will be that way 3 years from now. Not sure if both conferences will be alive 3 years from now.

(10-24-2013 02:59 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 02:54 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(10-24-2013 02:48 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  I wonder if Southern Miss would be interested

CUSA > SBC...they'll stick to CUSA.

I'm not seeing it these days.

Especially since they are losing East Caroloina and Tulsa