(10-06-2013 10:24 AM)NUPudge Wrote:  Hey all,

One thing I recall from yesterday was being asked, how come we don't run the spread? I couldn't answer this question..

You need the right personnel to run the spread and I don't think EMU has it. Jeff Quinn tried to make UB a spread team in 2010 and as a result we had *1* rushing TD all season and managed to finish 2-10 (with a loss to 0-11 Akron).

Your QB can't pass the ball long with any touch and he is not a great runner (tough runner but not going to really tear it up). Your line is also not built to spread out a defense.

English has had the time to build EMU into a spread but from the outside it looks like he is trying to recruit a sliver bullet skill player every year rather than focus on the line.

(10-06-2013 11:41 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Okay I'll bite why would Roback leave if English was fired? Why wouldn't he wait to see who the new coach or offensive coordinator would be?

Too bad Roback wasn't around when Genyk was around, it would be have gun will travel.

Yes this team is regressing each week, time for English to go and an interim appointed.

Why would a 4 star player stay around when he has an opportunity to leave without penalty. If English stays until the end of his contract Robach can't transfer without being penalized if he is fired he can. I don't know if the AD would let Robach go but there is a good possibility.

(10-06-2013 07:32 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(10-06-2013 05:31 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(10-05-2013 10:53 PM)michman83 Wrote:  

(10-05-2013 03:09 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(10-05-2013 02:58 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  Yeah, because we all know how FR QB's get attached to their defensive coordinators. I mean...WHAT?!

Who said he would go with English or with anyone else for that matter? He has other options.

You have no insider information. If you do, provide some backup, and I'll provide backup to show just the opposite.

nope. and believe what you like. In other words, you have no information and it was just another illogical, silly, baseless statement. SHOCKING!!!

And where did I even imply I had inside information on Robach? I didn't and don't I was stating a logical observation.

(10-06-2013 07:05 AM)holybovine Wrote:  Katman -- Would you like to summarize the Milton Barnes fallout for those too young to remember it?

He was hired from Min U he kicked everyone off but the starters +1 and brought in a bunch jc players that had questionable past and it blowup in his face. For the first 2 years they starts didn't listen to a word he said. He cursed and berated the players al thorough practice he had no respect for the players and they didn't have any for him. What heard the day he was fired the police had to go and get much of the playing equipment back a few of his players took everything they could carry.

(10-06-2013 12:37 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(10-06-2013 11:41 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Okay I'll bite why would Roback leave if English was fired? Why wouldn't he wait to see who the new coach or offensive coordinator would be?

Too bad Roback wasn't around when Genyk was around, it would be have gun will travel.

Yes this team is regressing each week, time for English to go and an interim appointed.

Why would a 4 star player stay around when he has an opportunity to leave without penalty. If English stays until the end of his contract Robach can't transfer without being penalized if he is fired he can. I don't know if the AD would let Robach go but there is a good possibility.

Simple because he has ample ability to start at this program rather than sit on the bench at another. I don't see a scenario where the AD lets Robach go and transfer. I always thought Robach's alliance was more to the school rather than to the coaching staff because his sister attends here. Secondly a new coach or offensive coordinator depending on who it is could actually improve his ability to earn a living at the professional level. I think most players will adopt a wait and see approach to a new coaching staff before considering transferring.

(10-06-2013 11:47 AM)TimBuck2 Wrote:  

(10-06-2013 11:41 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Okay I'll bite why would Roback leave if English was fired? Why wouldn't he wait to see who the new coach or offensive coordinator would be?

Too bad Roback wasn't around when Genyk was around, it would be have gun will travel.

Yes this team is regressing each week, time for English to go and an interim appointed.

Agreed. He may not have been pleased to see Karcher fired but he stayed. Even if he does leave, AD Lyke cannot bow to pressures of one recruit (though I strongly don't believe Carl has any insight on Brogan's mindset, let alone this topic), especially considering she is so new and this is her first major decision.

Parrish will probably be interim coach.

I don't but if English is fired it gives Robach a way out.And it isn't a bad idea to build and offence around a single player many teams do it. You people are reading things I didn't write.

(10-06-2013 12:54 PM)emu79 Wrote:  

(10-06-2013 12:37 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(10-06-2013 11:41 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Okay I'll bite why would Roback leave if English was fired? Why wouldn't he wait to see who the new coach or offensive coordinator would be?

Too bad Roback wasn't around when Genyk was around, it would be have gun will travel.

Yes this team is regressing each week, time for English to go and an interim appointed.

Why would a 4 star player stay around when he has an opportunity to leave without penalty. If English stays until the end of his contract Robach can't transfer without being penalized if he is fired he can. I don't know if the AD would let Robach go but there is a good possibility.

Simple because he has ample ability to start at this program rather than sit on the bench at another. I don't see a scenario where the AD lets Robach go and transfer. I always thought Robach's alliance was more to the school rather than to the coaching staff because his sister attends here. Secondly a new coach or offensive coordinator depending on who it is could actually improve his ability to earn a living at the professional level. I think most players will adopt a wait and see approach to a new coaching staff before considering transferring.

She graduates this year.

(10-06-2013 12:54 PM)emu79 Wrote:  

(10-06-2013 12:37 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(10-06-2013 11:41 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Okay I'll bite why would Roback leave if English was fired? Why wouldn't he wait to see who the new coach or offensive coordinator would be?

Too bad Roback wasn't around when Genyk was around, it would be have gun will travel.

Yes this team is regressing each week, time for English to go and an interim appointed.

Why would a 4 star player stay around when he has an opportunity to leave without penalty. If English stays until the end of his contract Robach can't transfer without being penalized if he is fired he can. I don't know if the AD would let Robach go but there is a good possibility.

Simple because he has ample ability to start at this program rather than sit on the bench at another. I don't see a scenario where the AD lets Robach go and transfer. I always thought Robach's alliance was more to the school rather than to the coaching staff because his sister attends here. Secondly a new coach or offensive coordinator depending on who it is could actually improve his ability to earn a living at the professional level. I think most players will adopt a wait and see approach to a new coaching staff before considering transferring.

Great point about allegiance to the school rather than coach. We all knew English was going into the season as a lame duck anyway.

Dear Bull In Exile,
Know of what you speak about our quarterback. You saw him in one game. So, now you are an expert about his ability to throw a football. Worry about your own mediocre quarterback. I love how people from other sites come here and try to give advice or criticize what is going on at Eastern.
We know our team is not playing well, and we also know that it has a lot to do with the play calling. Could any individual player perform better? Yes, but your quarterback is no super star. He had a good game against us, but let's see what he does the rest of the year.

(10-06-2013 01:47 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Bull In Exile,
Know of what you speak about our quarterback. You saw him in one game. So, now you are an expert about his ability to throw a football. Worry about your own mediocre quarterback. I love how people from other sites come here and try to give advice or criticize what is going on at Eastern.
We know our team is not playing well, and we also know that it has a lot to do with the play calling. Could any individual player perform better? Yes, but your quarterback is no super star. He had a good game against us, but let's see what he does the rest of the year.

Kenneth, Benz is not good.

Signed, an EMU fan.

Happy?

(10-06-2013 01:51 PM)TimBuck2 Wrote:  

(10-06-2013 01:47 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Bull In Exile,
Know of what you speak about our quarterback. You saw him in one game. So, now you are an expert about his ability to throw a football. Worry about your own mediocre quarterback. I love how people from other sites come here and try to give advice or criticize what is going on at Eastern.
We know our team is not playing well, and we also know that it has a lot to do with the play calling. Could any individual player perform better? Yes, but your quarterback is no super star. He had a good game against us, but let's see what he does the rest of the year.

Kenneth, Benz is not good.

Signed, an EMU fan.

Happy?

A QB can only be as good as his OL let's him. A bad OL even makes a good QB look bad.

Dear TimBuck2,
Is Benz the greatest thing since sliced bread? No. However, one also has to look at what he is working with. Are the coaches calling plays that will help him to be better? What about the board hands receivers that have probably dropped as many passes as he has throw as incomplete? This is his first full year as a starter, and half the time he is having to run for his life because of inadequate protection.
Now, has he held on to the ball when he should have thrown it away? Yes. Could he be more accurate? Yes. Tell me he is worse than Gillett. Remember, one cannot make chicken salad when the only ingredient one is given is chicken sh-t.

(10-06-2013 01:47 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Bull In Exile,
Know of what you speak about our quarterback. You saw him in one game. So, now you are an expert about his ability to throw a football. Worry about your own mediocre quarterback. I love how people from other sites come here and try to give advice or criticize what is going on at Eastern.
We know our team is not playing well, and we also know that it has a lot to do with the play calling. Could any individual player perform better? Yes, but your quarterback is no super star. He had a good game against us, but let's see what he does the rest of the year.

dude, Bull In Exile isn't here to talk ****. he's a knowledgeable guy giving relevant feedback.

(10-06-2013 02:03 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear TimBuck2,
Is Benz the greatest thing since sliced bread? No. However, one also has to look at what he is working with. Are the coaches calling plays that will help him to be better? What about the board hands receivers that have probably dropped as many passes as he has throw as incomplete? This is his first full year as a starter, and half the time he is having to run for his life because of inadequate protection.
Now, has he held on to the ball when he should have thrown it away? Yes. Could he be more accurate? Yes. Tell me he is worse than Gillett. Remember, one cannot make chicken salad when the only ingredient one is given is chicken sh-t.

He's not worse than AG was, which isn't saying much. Schmitt was better than both, but no athletes around him. Benz has better weapons but they drop passes, yes. Point is Benz is what he is, consistently, and was that on Saturday vs. Buff. He could be making players around him better, but is not. Exile was making an observation that has rang true every game it seems. He would have been better in the spread.

(10-06-2013 01:47 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Bull In Exile,
Know of what you speak about our quarterback. You saw him in one game. So, now you are an expert about his ability to throw a football. Worry about your own mediocre quarterback. I love how people from other sites come here and try to give advice or criticize what is going on at Eastern.
We know our team is not playing well, and we also know that it has a lot to do with the play calling. Could any individual player perform better? Yes, but your quarterback is no super star. He had a good game against us, but let's see what he does the rest of the year.

Ken how do you know how much I have seen your QB?

I've watched a lot more than 1 emu game this year and I will say Benz reminds me of Alex Zordich. He looks to be a tough player, guts out yards on the ground but with a very mediocre arm. He is not the kind of guy who you want leading a spread.

I never said he sucked or was pulling down EMU. I said he is not the guy you want to power a spread offense. Am I wrong? does Benz through a good deep ball? is he an elusive runner?

Licata is a Sophomore who was playing in just his 10th game against EMU. I have said often he is no Jordan Lynch but he does remind me, a lot, of Drew Willy who carried UB to a conference championship.

Licata throws the ball with a lot of touch and makes good decisions. He's not going to win any prizes for arm strength or mobility. Licata is good for a spread but not for an option offense.

I get it you guys are smarting, believe me if anyone in the conference understands it's Buffalo fans. But don't take a perfectly polite observation as some slam on EMU.

Dear Friends,
I guess we are just going to have to disagree on this one. Bull In Exile is talking spread, I'm talking about what is happening now. We are half way through the season, and the discussion is now Eastern should be running the spread, but doesn't have the personnel to run the spread. Do I get that correct? Boy, talk about mumbo jumbo.
I guess we should hire Bull In Exile as our next head coach. He and the rest of you obviously have all the answers.
I'm sorry for sounding bitter, but Eastern is not running the spread, and even if English is fired tomorrow, they still won't be running the spread. How about dealing with what we are and what we have?

(10-06-2013 12:16 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-06-2013 10:24 AM)NUPudge Wrote:  Hey all,

One thing I recall from yesterday was being asked, how come we don't run the spread? I couldn't answer this question..

You need the right personnel to run the spread and I don't think EMU has it. Jeff Quinn tried to make UB a spread team in 2010 and as a result we had *1* rushing TD all season and managed to finish 2-10 (with a loss to 0-11 Akron).

Your QB can't pass the ball long with any touch and he is not a great runner (tough runner but not going to really tear it up). Your line is also not built to spread out a defense.

English has had the time to build EMU into a spread but from the outside it looks like he is trying to recruit a sliver bullet skill player every year rather than focus on the line.

Sorry Bull, the EMU folks in here have a better feel for our personnel. EMU does have talent that could be fit into a different offensive scheme. Also, English is not trying to run the spread and I'm not sure where your opinion came from about his strategy. He runs an offense that is basically from the 90's that depends on having more talent than the opponents. Obviously it's a system that does not work when EMU has a similar talent level as the opponent. Nothing clever or innovative about him. He's a position coach.

To be fair, Benz has improved this year but he isn't a running/throwing QB that Alex was on his best days and Schmitt was consistently in his career.

Iannotti hasn't taken a snap, if Roback may be leaving why let him have playing time over Iannotti? I don't know much about Bell Jr, he appears to be more a of running threat than passer, I believe Bossard has some good upside potential and is a potential dual threat. Both Bell Jr and Bossard would both have redshirt years this year and would have to learn a new system under a new coach.

(10-06-2013 04:04 PM)emu79 Wrote:  To be fair, Benz has improved this year but he isn't a running/throwing QB that Alex was on his best days and Schmitt was consistently in his career.

Iannotti hasn't taken a snap, if Roback may be leaving why let him have playing time over Iannotti? I don't know much about Bell Jr, he appears to be more a of running threat than passer, I believe Bossard has some good upside potential and is a potential dual threat. Both Bell Jr and Bossard would both have redshirt years this year and would have to learn a new system under a new coach.

No proof that he is or will be leaving but if he is smart he will be looking at his options remember what English did when he took over! He cleaned house and people where looking for some place else to play.

(10-06-2013 04:00 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  

(10-06-2013 12:16 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(10-06-2013 10:24 AM)NUPudge Wrote:  Hey all,

One thing I recall from yesterday was being asked, how come we don't run the spread? I couldn't answer this question..

You need the right personnel to run the spread and I don't think EMU has it. Jeff Quinn tried to make UB a spread team in 2010 and as a result we had *1* rushing TD all season and managed to finish 2-10 (with a loss to 0-11 Akron).

Your QB can't pass the ball long with any touch and he is not a great runner (tough runner but not going to really tear it up). Your line is also not built to spread out a defense.

English has had the time to build EMU into a spread but from the outside it looks like he is trying to recruit a sliver bullet skill player every year rather than focus on the line.

Sorry Bull, the EMU folks in here have a better feel for our personnel. EMU does have talent that could be fit into a different offensive scheme. Also, English is not trying to run the spread and I'm not sure where your opinion came from about his strategy. He runs an offense that is basically from the 90's that depends on having more talent than the opponents. Obviously it's a system that does not work when EMU has a similar talent level as the opponent. Nothing clever or innovative about him. He's a position coach.

I was answering someone who said "Why is EMU not running the spread"... My answer was "Because you don't have players who would best run the spread over something else".