(09-17-2013 06:47 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  If the SEC won't schedule us that makes it tough. We're in CUSA, we've scheduled two belt schools and two big12 schools. I guess we either have to schedule more belt and big 12 or travel the country.

don't mind traveling the country if Tech can get teams like St. Mary's

(09-17-2013 10:58 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  

(09-17-2013 06:47 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  If the SEC won't schedule us that makes it tough. We're in CUSA, we've scheduled two belt schools and two big12 schools. I guess we either have to schedule more belt and big 12 or travel the country.

don't mind traveling the country if Tech can get teams like St. Mary's

This. We all need to have this mindset until we work our way up to something. We don't need to demand home and homes. Take 2 for 1's. Take paydays. Travel across the country to play the best team possible. Whatever it takes to have some decent teams on the schedule. I understand everybody wants as many home games as possible, but who the hell cares if you have 13 home games OOC against NE, SE, SW, NW DII state for 12 of those games?

(09-18-2013 07:39 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(09-17-2013 10:58 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  

(09-17-2013 06:47 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  If the SEC won't schedule us that makes it tough. We're in CUSA, we've scheduled two belt schools and two big12 schools. I guess we either have to schedule more belt and big 12 or travel the country.

don't mind traveling the country if Tech can get teams like St. Mary's

This. We all need to have this mindset until we work our way up to something. We don't need to demand home and homes. Take 2 for 1's. Take paydays. Travel across the country to play the best team possible. Whatever it takes to have some decent teams on the schedule. I understand everybody wants as many home games as possible, but who the hell cares if you have 13 home games OOC against NE, SE, SW, NW DII state for 12 of those games?

Can you please tell this to Southern Miss fans?

No more prostitution games please. Great way to schedule yourself into permanent mediocrity. Been there, done that at Southern Miss.

(09-18-2013 07:46 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  No more prostitution games please. Great way to schedule yourself into permanent mediocrity. Been there, done that at Southern Miss.

We have little basketball history and terrible facilities....what exactly would bait a great team into a home and home with us?

We just need to keep winning, then worry about that.

Exactly how many prostitution games have we won in basketball over the years? Look it up if you want. Easy way for you to schedule if you are an AD just to get by year to year if that is you want. You are right, winning is the way to do it, but not on others home courts with biased refs.

I wasn't necessarily saying load up with 13 games at the big boy's houses, but you are going to have to give in a little at some point. We all saw what happens to Southern Miss when you have no meaningful games won in your OOC schedule. That doesn't work either.

(09-18-2013 07:53 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 07:46 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  No more prostitution games please. Great way to schedule yourself into permanent mediocrity. Been there, done that at Southern Miss.

We have little basketball history and terrible facilities....what exactly would bait a great team into a home and home with us?

We just need to keep winning, then worry about that.

Just don't schedule any "buy" games. You can go on the road and play any power team you can. It sucks to not be able to get those guys to come to you, but sometimes we just have to bite the bullet and go to them to help with league/team RPI. Charlotte plays some bigger teams at the Bobcat's arena instead of Halton as well.

(09-18-2013 08:05 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 07:53 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 07:46 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  No more prostitution games please. Great way to schedule yourself into permanent mediocrity. Been there, done that at Southern Miss.

We have little basketball history and terrible facilities....what exactly would bait a great team into a home and home with us?

We just need to keep winning, then worry about that.

Just don't schedule any "buy" games. You can go on the road and play any power team you can. It sucks to not be able to get those guys to come to you, but sometimes we just have to bite the bullet and go to them to help with league/team RPI. Charlotte plays some bigger teams at the Bobcat's arena instead of Halton as well.

Everyone schedules buy games. What do you think games against UNC Asheville are for us? They're not playing us at home every year out of the goodness of their hearts. We're paying them to play us.

Yeah, I don't think anybody is advocating playing 13 games that are basically coin flips or worse.
I think our typical C-USA schedule should look something like this:

1 tournament
2-3 games with power conference teams(H&H, 2 for 1, 3 for 1, buy game, however you can do it)
4-6 games against non power teams that are normally legit(Belmont, St Marys, Valpo, Davidson, the upper half of the MAC, MVC, A-10, MWC, etc.)
2-5 home games you should win

(09-18-2013 08:12 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 08:05 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 07:53 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 07:46 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  No more prostitution games please. Great way to schedule yourself into permanent mediocrity. Been there, done that at Southern Miss.

We have little basketball history and terrible facilities....what exactly would bait a great team into a home and home with us?

We just need to keep winning, then worry about that.

Just don't schedule any "buy" games. You can go on the road and play any power team you can. It sucks to not be able to get those guys to come to you, but sometimes we just have to bite the bullet and go to them to help with league/team RPI. Charlotte plays some bigger teams at the Bobcat's arena instead of Halton as well.

Everyone schedules buy games. What do you think games against UNC Asheville are for us? They're not playing us at home every year out of the goodness of their hearts. We're paying them to play us.

How were we able to do that in the A10 when the A10 had that no buy game rule? Was it tied to RPI or something? Maybe I'm just calling it by the wrong name.

(09-18-2013 08:02 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  I wasn't necessarily saying load up with 13 games at the big boy's houses, but you are going to have to give in a little at some point. We all saw what happens to Southern Miss when you have no meaningful games won in your OOC schedule. That doesn't work either.

Uh hum...we didn't do anything that year because we lost to UAB....and Marshall in football. We were set up with a schedule to get a BCS game and failed to win those games that should have been winners for us. Simple as that. Last year we played whore games and lost them on the road. Cost us an NCAA bid.

(09-18-2013 08:31 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 08:12 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 08:05 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 07:53 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 07:46 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  No more prostitution games please. Great way to schedule yourself into permanent mediocrity. Been there, done that at Southern Miss.

We have little basketball history and terrible facilities....what exactly would bait a great team into a home and home with us?

We just need to keep winning, then worry about that.

Just don't schedule any "buy" games. You can go on the road and play any power team you can. It sucks to not be able to get those guys to come to you, but sometimes we just have to bite the bullet and go to them to help with league/team RPI. Charlotte plays some bigger teams at the Bobcat's arena instead of Halton as well.

Everyone schedules buy games. What do you think games against UNC Asheville are for us? They're not playing us at home every year out of the goodness of their hearts. We're paying them to play us.

How were we able to do that in the A10 when the A10 had that no buy game rule? Was it tied to RPI or something? Maybe I'm just calling it by the wrong name.

I don't think the A10 had a no buy game rule. It had a no non-D1 rule.

The A10 rule also had guidelines (although I'm not sure if they were hard rules) for what kind of RPI opponents you should schedule depending on what level your program was at. They also tried to adjust the home and home conference games so that the best programs were matched up to play as many good RPI games as possible.

(09-18-2013 09:33 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 08:02 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  I wasn't necessarily saying load up with 13 games at the big boy's houses, but you are going to have to give in a little at some point. We all saw what happens to Southern Miss when you have no meaningful games won in your OOC schedule. That doesn't work either.

Uh hum...we didn't do anything that year because we lost to UAB....and Marshall in football. We were set up with a schedule to get a BCS game and failed to win those games that should have been winners for us. Simple as that. Last year we played whore games and lost them on the road. Cost us an NCAA bid.

What in the hell are you talking about? I'm not talking about football.

You didn't make the tournament last year because you had no quality wins. You can tell yourself whatever you need to in order to feel better about it, but that is the true reason.

(09-18-2013 09:46 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 08:31 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 08:12 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 08:05 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 07:53 AM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  We have little basketball history and terrible facilities....what exactly would bait a great team into a home and home with us?

We just need to keep winning, then worry about that.

Just don't schedule any "buy" games. You can go on the road and play any power team you can. It sucks to not be able to get those guys to come to you, but sometimes we just have to bite the bullet and go to them to help with league/team RPI. Charlotte plays some bigger teams at the Bobcat's arena instead of Halton as well.

Everyone schedules buy games. What do you think games against UNC Asheville are for us? They're not playing us at home every year out of the goodness of their hearts. We're paying them to play us.

How were we able to do that in the A10 when the A10 had that no buy game rule? Was it tied to RPI or something? Maybe I'm just calling it by the wrong name.

I don't think the A10 had a no buy game rule. It had a no non-D1 rule.

The A10 rule also had guidelines (although I'm not sure if they were hard rules) for what kind of RPI opponents you should schedule depending on what level your program was at. They also tried to adjust the home and home conference games so that the best programs were matched up to play as many good RPI games as possible.

Ah, thanks. I was talking about one thing but calling it something else.

What's up with all these basketball schedules coming up with horrendous out-of-conference opponents? Like, what is that? Seriously? MT has it bad too. I don't understand...

Should be MANY high win teams by the time conference play starts, so I would definitely say that's a good thing.

(09-18-2013 10:27 AM)Ole Blue Wrote:  What's up with all these basketball schedules coming up with horrendous out-of-conference opponents? Like, what is that? Seriously? MT has it bad too. I don't understand...

Should be MANY high win teams by the time conference play starts, so I would definitely say that's a good thing.

the SEC schools that Tech asked wouldn't play them

(09-18-2013 10:32 AM)techdawg88 Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 10:27 AM)Ole Blue Wrote:  What's up with all these basketball schedules coming up with horrendous out-of-conference opponents? Like, what is that? Seriously? MT has it bad too. I don't understand...

Should be MANY high win teams by the time conference play starts, so I would definitely say that's a good thing.

the SEC schools that Tech asked wouldn't play them

Yep, that's a part of the problem... Unfortunate... Freakin' SEC.

(09-18-2013 10:44 AM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 10:32 AM)techdawg88 Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 10:27 AM)Ole Blue Wrote:  What's up with all these basketball schedules coming up with horrendous out-of-conference opponents? Like, what is that? Seriously? MT has it bad too. I don't understand...

Should be MANY high win teams by the time conference play starts, so I would definitely say that's a good thing.

the SEC schools that Tech asked wouldn't play them

Yep, that's a part of the problem... Unfortunate... Freakin' SEC.

I believe also asked an ACC school and they turned Tech down

(09-18-2013 10:45 AM)techdawg88 Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 10:44 AM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 10:32 AM)techdawg88 Wrote:  

(09-18-2013 10:27 AM)Ole Blue Wrote:  What's up with all these basketball schedules coming up with horrendous out-of-conference opponents? Like, what is that? Seriously? MT has it bad too. I don't understand...

Should be MANY high win teams by the time conference play starts, so I would definitely say that's a good thing.

the SEC schools that Tech asked wouldn't play them

Yep, that's a part of the problem... Unfortunate... Freakin' SEC.

I believe also asked an ACC school and they turned Tech down

Charlotte can't get any NC based ACC teams, sans Wake, to play us. Wake played us downtown and not in Halton. Clemson andGA Tech have played us in Halton. Dean Smith used to have a rule about not playing in state non ACC schools as well.