(05-14-2013 03:55 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Keep cheering for those trying to spin this to make it go away. They're desperate. You're looking that way, too.

The MSM didn't start reporting this because they wanted to. They did because they know now after the first hearings last week that there really is a there, there.

You're ******* clueless. Did you forget Hillary's hearing in January? Or the Petraeus hearing in November?

(05-14-2013 03:58 PM)Smaug Wrote:  So, ABC is now part of the rightwing cabal?

No, somebody likely fed them a lie.

(05-14-2013 04:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-14-2013 03:55 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Keep cheering for those trying to spin this to make it go away. They're desperate. You're looking that way, too.

The MSM didn't start reporting this because they wanted to. They did because they know now after the first hearings last week that there really is a there, there.

You're ******* clueless. Did you forget Hillary's hearing in January? Or the Petraeus hearing in November?

YOU are going to believe Hillary? That woman hasn't met a lie that she couldn't tell with a straight face. With a little coaching from Billy, she might even shed a tear.

Petraeus refused to sign off on the talking points final revision because it was B.S.

Yea, about that January testimony- was that under oath? If not why not? Why did it take until January for the Secretary of State to answer questions about the first Ambassador in 30 years to be killed on US soil? The murder and abandonment of these courageous Americans took place in September, right?

(05-14-2013 04:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-14-2013 03:58 PM)Smaug Wrote:  So, ABC is now part of the rightwing cabal?

No, somebody likely fed them a lie.

Okay. Who?

(05-14-2013 04:25 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Yea, about that January testimony- was that under oath? If not why not? Why did it take until January for the Secretary of State to answer questions about the first Ambassador in 30 years to be killed on US soil? The murder and abandonment of these courageous Americans took place in September, right?

It is pretty obvious she stalled and hoped this would simply go away. It didn't. Now she becomes the angry woman we know and love when questioned. She is one piece of work...this broad. She was at minimum incompetent in her duties. She deserves everything she gets.

(05-13-2013 01:49 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-13-2013 01:28 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Which has the potential to be worse for the administration? Benghazi or the IRS fiasco?

IRS clearly. It resonates more with the general populous.

With the general population, the IRS. However, they just have to point back to '04 and say , we were doing investigative checks on "left wing 401©'s" and you didn't raise this hell.

Quote:Besides, we already know that Benghazi was nothing...we're still uncovering stuff with the IRS.

Wrong. Benghazi was not "nothing". We have US territory (Embassies are consideried territory of the country) that was attacked, and the US govt lied and covered up that attack.

It absolutely disgusts me that liberals have somehow managed to convince themselves that a coverup of an ambassador being killed on us soil on 9-11, a refusal to help or rectify the situation in any way shape or form now constitute " no there, there".

Disgusting.

(05-15-2013 12:16 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(05-13-2013 01:49 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-13-2013 01:28 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Which has the potential to be worse for the administration? Benghazi or the IRS fiasco?

IRS clearly. It resonates more with the general populous.

With the general population, the IRS. However, they just have to point back to '04 and say , we were doing investigative checks on "left wing 401©'s" and you didn't raise this hell.

Quote:Besides, we already know that Benghazi was nothing...we're still uncovering stuff with the IRS.

Wrong. Benghazi was not "nothing". We have US territory (Embassies are consideried territory of the country) that was attacked, and the US govt lied and covered up that attack.

Of course...Leftist failing to protect US territory is nothing new.

(05-14-2013 04:29 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(05-14-2013 04:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-14-2013 03:58 PM)Smaug Wrote:  So, ABC is now part of the rightwing cabal?

No, somebody likely fed them a lie.

Okay. Who?

Anyone else find it curious that the WH only released that one email, which isn't really materially different than what was reported on it, and not the entire email string concerning the talking points?

(05-15-2013 08:11 AM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(05-14-2013 04:29 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(05-14-2013 04:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-14-2013 03:58 PM)Smaug Wrote:  So, ABC is now part of the rightwing cabal?

No, somebody likely fed them a lie.

Okay. Who?

Anyone else find it curious that the WH only released that one email, which isn't really materially different than what was reported on it, and not the entire email string concerning the talking points?

Backfire: ABC, CNN, NBC Call for White House to Release Libya Emails

(05-15-2013 08:24 AM)Paul M Wrote:  

(05-15-2013 08:11 AM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(05-14-2013 04:29 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(05-14-2013 04:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-14-2013 03:58 PM)Smaug Wrote:  So, ABC is now part of the rightwing cabal?

No, somebody likely fed them a lie.

Okay. Who?

Anyone else find it curious that the WH only released that one email, which isn't really materially different than what was reported on it, and not the entire email string concerning the talking points?

Backfire: ABC, CNN, NBC Call for White House to Release Libya Emails

I really think that the AP phone records secret grab may come back to haunt the crooked Chicago hack. I'm sure that every other news organization is wondering how many of their phone conversations have been stolen and "reviewed".

Maybe, just maybe, the mainstream media is realizing to what lengths this crew will go to and have decided no more water carrying because Obama and his minions decided to violate "their" constitutional rights.

It would be refreshing to see the media actually ask the questions, not let up, and hold these A'holes feet to the fire.

If you think Obama shows himself to be a petulant child when he doesn't get his way - wait till this crap blows up. He may stomp and kick his feet on TV.

Ah, what am I thinking.........way too much to ask for.

(05-15-2013 08:11 AM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  Anyone else find it curious that the WH only released that one email, which isn't really materially different than what was reported on it, and not the entire email string concerning the talking points?

You want some context for that? Here is what went down.

Jake Tapper got played. Somebody selectively released (leaked) just one email to him. Tapper now agrees with Karl. They are demanding that the WH release the entire string of emails. Then the context becomes clear.

Did the WH selectively leak email to distort Benghazi timeline story?

Today's White House Benghazi Document Dump pretty much exposed Carney as a liar and pose more questions.

This administration is a joke, has been from day one.

Love the breaking news alert on MSNBC: AG HOLDER STATES THAT SUSPECT IDENTIFIED IN BENGHAZI ATTACK.

You can't make this corny **** up.

The Obama Administration truly believes it is above the law.

They pretty much got away it for the entire first term but now things are getting dicey:
Benghazi (more whistleblowers lining up)
IRS vindictive tactics with conservative groups (not just local; it was policy originating in Washington)
DOJ seizure of AP records (trample that 1st amendment!)

We still have the old issues of ObamaCare cost escalations, Fast & Furious, etc.

I agree with Credman this AP records scandal might just awaken the mainstream media into really going after Obama and his band of scheming henchmen.

Dear leders counteroffensive is failing miserably. The emails he release regarding Beghazi have a 67 hour gap. I beleive this President is in deep deep trouble.

Anybody else think that all these other scandals that just suddenly materialized are just diversions? Benghazi is the real scandal.

Why has nobody yet tried to pin down the REAL questions or even ASK them?
Where was Barack when the attack started? Where was he after it started? Who was he with? What was he doing?

Remember the missing 18 1/2 minutes on the Nixon tapes that was the focus of the media? THESE Q. about Obama's whereabouts are the EQUIVALENT to those missing minutes on the Nixon tapes. Yet nobody is even asking the question!

The IRS admission and "apology" had to come out when it did because the IG report on it was about to be released. They had to appear to be out in front of that news. "Firing" a temporary head of IRS who was going to be finished in June anyways is a joke.

The AP scandal is another diversion that will quickly go away. With this group in charge, you must always be watching the other hand and what it is doing, because they are masters of diversion. They know that Benghazi has the potential to become a huge problem.

(05-16-2013 11:31 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Anybody else think that all these other scandals that just suddenly materialized are just diversions? Benghazi is the real scandal.

Why has nobody yet tried to pin down the REAL questions or even ASK them?
Where was Barack when the attack started? Where was he after it started? Who was he with? What was he doing?

Remember the missing 18 1/2 minutes on the Nixon tapes that was the focus of the media? THESE Q. about Obama's whereabouts are the EQUIVALENT to those missing minutes on the Nixon tapes. Yet nobody is even asking the question!

The IRS admission and "apology" had to come out when it did because the IG report on it was about to be released. They had to appear to be out in front of that news. "Firing" a temporary head of IRS who was going to be finished in June anyways is a joke.

The AP scandal is another diversion that will quickly go away. With this group in charge, you must always be watching the other hand and what it is doing, because they are masters of diversion. They know that Benghazi has the potential to become a huge problem.

Maybe. But the IRS scandal has the potential to be more damaging in the long run.

(05-16-2013 11:31 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Anybody else think that all these other scandals that just suddenly materialized are just diversions? Benghazi is the real scandal.

Why has nobody yet tried to pin down the REAL questions or even ASK them?
Where was Barack when the attack started? Where was he after it started? Who was he with? What was he doing?

Remember the missing 18 1/2 minutes on the Nixon tapes that was the focus of the media? THESE Q. about Obama's whereabouts are the EQUIVALENT to those missing minutes on the Nixon tapes. Yet nobody is even asking the question!

The IRS admission and "apology" had to come out when it did because the IG report on it was about to be released. They had to appear to be out in front of that news. "Firing" a temporary head of IRS who was going to be finished in June anyways is a joke.

The AP scandal is another diversion that will quickly go away. With this group in charge, you must always be watching the other hand and what it is doing, because they are masters of diversion. They know that Benghazi has the potential to become a huge problem.

Thought pretty much this since jump. Overwhelm the system. In this instance the system is the news cycle and the pathetic attention span of the ADD populace.

They are counting on people eventually saying, oh geeeez, this is just more of the politics as usual, I am SOOOOOO OVer all this stuff, I can't even keep up. What's going on with American Idol?

So yea, it's up to the Congress to do their Constitutional duty of oversight and keep digging for the truth. There should be no objections to finding out the facts. As already illustrated, what we have gotten so far is everything BUT the facts, so it will be up to them to keep pressing.

Watergate-esque or not, that 3rd rate break-in took years to fester.