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Ding! Dong! the Union's dead!!!
04-27-2013 08:07 AM
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For the life of me ill never understand the mentality of celebrating your fellow mans demise. Yeah! The workers will now have to work for less money and lower benefits. Woo hoo. Ever hear of a rising tide lifts all boats? So the middle class gets squeezed more. People will work for less. More money into the pockets of the 1% so they can buy off more politicians. Rinse repeat.$$
04-27-2013 08:43 AM
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Yeah we are becoming a right to work state where the average IQ is 5 points lower!!
04-27-2013 08:48 AM
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People can either run their own jobs out of business or they can keep it.
04-27-2013 09:02 AM
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This is great news as we sit and watch the American worker get less and less while their corporate overlords sit on heaps of cash
04-27-2013 09:26 AM
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(04-27-2013 09:26 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  This is great news as we sit and watch the American worker get less and less while their corporate overlords sit on heaps of cash

Do you defend the unions position which forced two trucks to make the a trip which could have been made by one? Would delivering bread and pastries in the same truch create an unsafe working condition? would it have made a persons work environment unfair?

No..

But the Union held onto it and it's things like that which are killing them.
04-27-2013 09:54 AM
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(04-27-2013 09:26 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  This is great news as we sit and watch the American worker get less and less while their corporate overlords sit on heaps of cash

i'll always wonder why the unions stood by and eiyher did nothing about it or made it worse
04-27-2013 10:40 AM
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(04-27-2013 10:40 AM)Cardiff Wrote:  
(04-27-2013 09:26 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  This is great news as we sit and watch the American worker get less and less while their corporate overlords sit on heaps of cash

i'll always wonder why the unions stood by and eiyher did nothing about it or made it worse

While management got hefty bonuses.
04-27-2013 10:53 AM
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What can a union do. All you have to do now is drive a hard bargain. Fold shop for 6 months and come back at 8 dollars an hour with no pee breaks. Someone will do the job. It's over. The Koch brothers and their ilk won.
04-27-2013 10:55 AM
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Put a bullet in someone's head? Poison their dog? Exactly what can a union do? We are in a race to the lowest common denominator. Woo hoo we've become the south!
04-27-2013 10:56 AM
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A double wide trailer for every family and a chicken in every pot.
04-27-2013 10:58 AM
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(04-27-2013 09:54 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  
(04-27-2013 09:26 AM)Mr. Peanut Wrote:  This is great news as we sit and watch the American worker get less and less while their corporate overlords sit on heaps of cash

But the Corporate executives held onto it and it's things like that which are killing them.

FIFY ...but it was OK for 19 executives to get 1.8 Million in bonuses even after the liquidation had commenced?
04-27-2013 10:59 AM
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(04-27-2013 10:56 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Put a bullet in someone's head? Poison their dog? Exactly what can a union do? We are in a race to the lowest common denominator. Woo hoo we've become the south!

Hope springs eternal

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(04-27-2013 10:58 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  A double wide trailer for every family and a chicken in every pot.

Have you ever been in the south?

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(04-26-2013 09:51 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  http://gma.yahoo.com/twinkies-return-hos...money.html

Too bad they're in IL. WI would be a better choice.

Oh well, Dongs for everyone. 02-13-banana

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04-27-2013 11:18 AM
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(04-27-2013 10:56 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Put a bullet in someone's head? Poison their dog? Exactly what can a union do?

They can put a company out of business. Short of that, they can raise wage expenses to the point where other needed employees might not get hired because they're too expensive. They can go on strike and punish management, their fellow employees, and their customers. Mach, if it's not the money being paid to employees, then it's the restrictions, rules, grievance process, labor complaints, protection of worthless employees, etc. How would you like it if your kids unionized themselves to protect themselves from you?

You know the old news room saying - "film editors on strike, slides at 11."
04-27-2013 11:33 AM
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Did you guys skip history class when they covered the early 1900's
04-27-2013 11:52 AM
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I appreciate what the Union has done for workers and workers rights. You may want to thank them next time you ...
have weekends off
take paid vacation
work a 40 hour week
file an insurance claim
go to work in a safe environment
make a living wage
take paid sick time
The list of benefits all Americans should be grateful to the Unions for is seemingly endless
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(04-27-2013 11:52 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Did you guys skip history class when they covered the early 1900's

No one here believes the unions didn't have their place 50+ years ago. You can largely thank the Federal Government and the regulatory environment for us not needing Unions today. The main reasons the unions existed in the first place are now law. Sure, we can thank Unions for that but its foolish, IMO, to think all that will unwind if the unions cease to exist.
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(04-27-2013 11:58 AM)ImMoreAwesomeThanYou Wrote:  
(04-27-2013 11:52 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Did you guys skip history class when they covered the early 1900's

No one here believes the unions didn't have their place 50+ years ago. You can largely thank the Federal Government and the regulatory environment for us not needing Unions today. The main reasons the unions existed in the first place are now law. Sure, we can thank Unions for that but its foolish, IMO, to think all that will unwind if the unions cease to exist.

Then you are a simple minded fool
04-27-2013 12:02 PM
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