Good or bad...There is little doubt that American law enforcement is now totally militarized. Boston looks like the streets of Beirut today.

What would the alternative be though?

I think it shows mutual cooperation among agencies.

I lean towards it being more cooperative action at this time. Still frightening though, and something I don't feel entirely comfortable with.

On a side note, I don't like the fact the whole town is shut down. This is exactly what terrorist s want, an interruption of American life, fear and uncertainty. If they shut the whole town down and can't find the guy in one day it will be a massive failure. Is the area to be shut down until they find him? What happens if tjis drags on through the weekend?

Someone will do a financial impact study on this. It will be in the tens of billions probably, maybe more. And yep, this what they want. Complete disruption of our lives.

Can't wait to see the pictures of the parties and dancing in the ME.

(04-19-2013 04:39 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Someone will do a financial impact study on this. It will be in the tens of billions probably, maybe more. And yep, this what they want. Complete disruption of our lives.

Can't wait to see the pictures of the parties and dancing in the ME.

And the visas will keep flowing.

(04-19-2013 04:29 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  I think it shows mutual cooperation among agencies.

Evidently I am the only one that has noticed the military vehicles that the police departments now have. I thought someone said armored personnel carriers ever would never roam the streets in America.

I hope they kill this little SOB and I applaud the efforts of the all involved..but..I am saddened to see this happen in America. It makes me feel like Bin Laden won.

(04-19-2013 04:40 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-19-2013 04:39 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Someone will do a financial impact study on this. It will be in the tens of billions probably, maybe more. And yep, this what they want. Complete disruption of our lives.

Can't wait to see the pictures of the parties and dancing in the ME.

And the visas will keep flowing.

Cost of freedom?...or...stop being the beacon of it? Hard choice IMO.

(04-19-2013 04:48 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-19-2013 04:40 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-19-2013 04:39 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Someone will do a financial impact study on this. It will be in the tens of billions probably, maybe more. And yep, this what they want. Complete disruption of our lives.

Can't wait to see the pictures of the parties and dancing in the ME.

And the visas will keep flowing.

Cost of freedom?...or...stop being the beacon of it? Hard choice IMO.

visas are not the cost of freedom, they are throwing it out as if its cheap. Boston gave it up a century ago w/ their immigrants. Birthplace of the Am Revolution? Haha, what a farce.

Open up our borders completely,
Don't vet incoming people that well,
No problem, be happy,
More Democratic voters.

Actually the patriot act had little to do with the militarization of the police, that was just an opening up of budgets. They haven't gotten any more "powers" they've just now been able to buy more expensive toys.

(04-19-2013 04:55 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-19-2013 04:48 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-19-2013 04:40 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-19-2013 04:39 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Someone will do a financial impact study on this. It will be in the tens of billions probably, maybe more. And yep, this what they want. Complete disruption of our lives.

Can't wait to see the pictures of the parties and dancing in the ME.

And the visas will keep flowing.

Cost of freedom?...or...stop being the beacon of it? Hard choice IMO.

visas are not the cost of freedom, they are throwing it out as if its cheap. Boston gave it up a century ago w/ their immigrants. Birthplace of the Am Revolution? Haha, what a farce.

Yeah, definitely. Who could come up with such a silly story? Oh wait... It actually happened! LOL

(04-19-2013 04:29 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  I think it shows mutual cooperation among agencies.

Indeed it does and law enforcement have to be able to match the firepower of some individuals.

(04-19-2013 08:12 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(04-19-2013 04:55 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-19-2013 04:48 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-19-2013 04:40 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(04-19-2013 04:39 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Someone will do a financial impact study on this. It will be in the tens of billions probably, maybe more. And yep, this what they want. Complete disruption of our lives.

Can't wait to see the pictures of the parties and dancing in the ME.

And the visas will keep flowing.

Cost of freedom?...or...stop being the beacon of it? Hard choice IMO.

visas are not the cost of freedom, they are throwing it out as if its cheap. Boston gave it up a century ago w/ their immigrants. Birthplace of the Am Revolution? Haha, what a farce.

Yeah, definitely. Who could come up with such a silly story? Oh wait... It actually happened! LOL

There's a price to pay for liberalism. Liberty and liberalism ain't the same.

How many billions have we spent on security since 9/11?
And it takes a tarp a little miscued to catch a terrorist.

(04-19-2013 08:00 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Actually the patriot act had little to do with the militarization of the police, that was just an opening up of budgets. They haven't gotten any more "powers" they've just now been able to buy more expensive toys.

So in your world the Patriot act didn't give law enforcement any more power or authority? Not saying that the examples from boston are indicative of increased budgets or results of the patriot act, but just asking the question in general.

(04-19-2013 04:57 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Open up our borders completely,
Don't vet incoming people that well,
No problem, be happy,
More Democratic voters.

I think it was Rand Paul who said recently, "You can't operate a welfare state with open borders".

Actually, we can do it and we have been doing it for quite a while. But Sen. Paul is correct in saying that it can't go on forever.

(04-19-2013 09:05 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(04-19-2013 04:57 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Open up our borders completely,
Don't vet incoming people that well,
No problem, be happy,
More Democratic voters.

I think it was Rand Paul who said recently, "You can't operate a welfare state with open borders".

Actually, we can do it and we have been doing it for quite a while. But Sen. Paul is correct in saying that it can't go on forever.

Randy drove me home one night when I was too drunk in high school. Called me a dumb***

(04-19-2013 09:05 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(04-19-2013 08:00 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Actually the patriot act had little to do with the militarization of the police, that was just an opening up of budgets. They haven't gotten any more "powers" they've just now been able to buy more expensive toys.

So in your world the Patriot act didn't give law enforcement any more power or authority? Not saying that the examples from boston are indicative of increased budgets or results of the patriot act, but just asking the question in general.

Oh, to the contrary. I am a huge opponent of the patriot act and feel it's a gross overreach of power at all levels. I'm just saying the patriot act didn't have anything to do with the effective military occupation of metro boston by the boston police.

I always thought these pictures of our "border fence" were a little odd. How could we be so strick and not understanding the human tragedy of these people seeking the sweet smell of freedom. After all, they should have the "border fence" be in their own language.