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RE: Playoff $$$ Payout Maxes Out at 12 Teams.
Sadly, I think we missed our chance at getting VCU and George Mason. Add 2 large public universities in new markets with good basketball and ready-made rivalries within easy driving distance of current C*USA schools that can be done in a weekend (no football sharing). Are there any other easy driving opportunities with good basketball? Florida Gulf Coast (FIU/FAU/FGCU)?
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RE: Playoff $$$ Payout Maxes Out at 12 Teams.
Damn fool Banowsky is probably doing a 180 and trying to figure out how to dump two schools. He expanded too far and stole some of the worst performing teams from the Sun Belt which insures the SBC will finish higher in the payout rankings.

And he made the league imbalanced.

That fool went 0 for 3 on the important issues.
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RE: Playoff $$$ Payout Maxes Out at 12 Teams.
(04-10-2013 06:08 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Damn fool Banowsky is probably doing a 180 and trying to figure out how to dump two schools. He expanded too far and stole the worst performing teams from the Sun Belt which insures the SBC will finish higher in the payout rankings.

And he made the league imbalananced.

That fool went 0 for 3 on the important issues.

Ummm...yeah. How do you figure? Collectively, who exactly is left in the Sun Belt that is going to outperform who is collectively left in CUSA? Before you respond, remember that the only games that matter for comparative purposes between conferences are games against power conference teams.
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RE: Playoff $$$ Payout Maxes Out at 12 Teams.
(04-10-2013 01:25 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...evenue-cap

10 team conference would get $10 million
11 team conference would get $11 million
Any one at 12 or more members has to split $12 million.

More members beyond 12 = less playoff $$$ for each school in that conference.

That makes sense. The payout should be on a per league basis. If a league wants more teams, it comes out of their wallets.
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RE: Playoff $$$ Payout Maxes Out at 12 Teams.
(04-10-2013 01:54 PM)slappycajun Wrote:  Plus, let's assume, as a safe estimate, that the Cajuns and Bull Dogs bring 1,000 more people to a game at USM than a team in the eastern division.

That's 35K in more revenue to USM than another team. Not too mention money spent on concessions, etc.

Isn't the way these things work is that the visitor gets 5K or so tickets to sell and pocket the money. In that case, the home team benefits only via concessions.
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Here's one reason C-USA might stay at 14
Under the new playoff system, each G5 school will receive $1M in base pay with one caveat: no G5 conference will receive more than $12M.

At 14 members, C-USA schools' base pay is already down from $1M to $857K. If C-USA went to 16, the base pay would drop to $750K per school.
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RE: Here's one reason C-USA might stay at 14
(04-10-2013 11:37 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Under the new playoff system, each G5 school will receive $1M in base pay with one caveat: no G5 conference will receive more than $12M.

At 14 members, C-USA schools' base pay is already down from $1M to $857K. If C-USA went to 16, the base pay would drop to $750K per school.

Dude, that story is like so 10 hours ago.
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RE: Here's one reason C-USA might stay at 14
(04-10-2013 11:37 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Under the new playoff system, each G5 school will receive $1M in base pay with one caveat: no G5 conference will receive more than $12M.
At 14 members, C-USA schools' base pay is already down from $1M to $857K. If C-USA went to 16, the base pay would drop to $750K per school.

One person close to the process said, "The recommendation is to cap it so people won't think, 'Let's keep adding people and we'll keep picking up dollars.'"

Why would anyone think that by adding more members you would get more money? The only way to get more money is to reduce the number of recipients of those dollars (i.e. downsize the number of conferences).
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RE: Here's one reason C-USA might stay at 14
(04-10-2013 11:37 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Under the new playoff system, each G5 school will receive $1M in base pay with one caveat: no G5 conference will receive more than $12M.

At 14 members, C-USA schools' base pay is already down from $1M to $857K. If C-USA went to 16, the base pay would drop to $750K per school.

Don't put real financial numbers out there...Some folks just want to go all WAC for the sake of the matter.
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RE: Here's one reason C-USA might stay at 14
(04-10-2013 11:42 PM)gostAte870 Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 11:37 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Under the new playoff system, each G5 school will receive $1M in base pay with one caveat: no G5 conference will receive more than $12M.

At 14 members, C-USA schools' base pay is already down from $1M to $857K. If C-USA went to 16, the base pay would drop to $750K per school.

Dude, that story is like so 10 hours ago.

Dude, your conference is so not CUSA
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RE: Here's one reason C-USA might stay at 14
(04-10-2013 11:37 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Under the new playoff system, each G5 school will receive $1M in base pay with one caveat: no G5 conference will receive more than $12M.

At 14 members, C-USA schools' base pay is already down from $1M to $857K. If C-USA went to 16, the base pay would drop to $750K per school.

Possible. It's currently a point of discussion only but with only one conference that would be affected it's likely to be the ultimate decision. Not too bright if you ask me, of course it's easier for me to see the good side of $1m per team as my guys are in C-USA....."what if" the "go to" model turns out to be 16? What if ACC gets jumped again and the aac loses usf, cinci, temple and uconn? Will the MWC still be interested in grabbing uh, tulsa, smu and utep?

Lots of stuff to consider before you cut off your nose to spite your face. The ONLY way there will ever be movement toward equality in access is if the Go5 acts in the best interest of the Go5 and not the best interest of each individual Go5 conference.
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RE: Here's one reason C-USA might stay at 14
Any differential is equal to.......

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....such a pointless discussion
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RE: Here's one reason C-USA might stay at 14
CUSA, MWC, MAC, Sunbelt, AAC arguing over this is like two homeless people fighting over free plates of food and four quarters in the bottom of a dirty trash can.
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(04-11-2013 07:26 AM)HERD-it-wuz-DJ Wrote:  CUSA, MWC, MAC, Sunbelt, AAC arguing over this is like two homeless people fighting over free plates of food and four quarters in the bottom of a dirty trash can.

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RE: Here's one reason C-USA might stay at 14
(04-10-2013 11:55 PM)AtlantaEagle Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 11:37 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Under the new playoff system, each G5 school will receive $1M in base pay with one caveat: no G5 conference will receive more than $12M.

At 14 members, C-USA schools' base pay is already down from $1M to $857K. If C-USA went to 16, the base pay would drop to $750K per school.

Don't put real financial numbers out there...Some folks just want to go all WAC for the sake of the matter.

Bingo!! Remember those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repete it.
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Re: RE: Here's one reason C-USA might stay at 14
(04-11-2013 08:47 AM)eagleriffic Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 11:55 PM)AtlantaEagle Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 11:37 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Under the new playoff system, each G5 school will receive $1M in base pay with one caveat: no G5 conference will receive more than $12M.

At 14 members, C-USA schools' base pay is already down from $1M to $857K. If C-USA went to 16, the base pay would drop to $750K per school.

Don't put real financial numbers out there...Some folks just want to go all WAC for the sake of the matter.

Bingo!! Remember those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repete it.

$107,000 is really not much of a barrier to adding members if you think those members bring $107, 001 in benefits.
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RE: Here's one reason C-USA might stay at 14
(04-11-2013 08:55 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(04-11-2013 08:47 AM)eagleriffic Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 11:55 PM)AtlantaEagle Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 11:37 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Under the new playoff system, each G5 school will receive $1M in base pay with one caveat: no G5 conference will receive more than $12M.

At 14 members, C-USA schools' base pay is already down from $1M to $857K. If C-USA went to 16, the base pay would drop to $750K per school.

Don't put real financial numbers out there...Some folks just want to go all WAC for the sake of the matter.

Bingo!! Remember those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repete it.

$107,000 is really not much of a barrier to adding members if you think those members bring $107, 001 in benefits.

Considering that football is the driver in all of this realignment mess, it may be a good idea for some Go5 conferences to make sure they have enough "football schools" on board. Each Go5 conference may want to increase their chances of getting that one playoff spot.
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RE: Playoff $$$ Payout Maxes Out at 12 Teams.
If CUSA goes to 16 it will be $250k less per team than a 12 team conference. Not huge money, but an extra $250k for coaches etc always helps.

Ultimately, the question is if adding UL and Ark St bring that much value. Plus over time, if the auto pay increases to say $1.5 million per team up to 12, it will hurt even more.
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Re: RE: Here's one reason C-USA might stay at 14
(04-11-2013 09:02 AM)gostAte870 Wrote:  
(04-11-2013 08:55 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(04-11-2013 08:47 AM)eagleriffic Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 11:55 PM)AtlantaEagle Wrote:  
(04-10-2013 11:37 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  Under the new playoff system, each G5 school will receive $1M in base pay with one caveat: no G5 conference will receive more than $12M.

At 14 members, C-USA schools' base pay is already down from $1M to $857K. If C-USA went to 16, the base pay would drop to $750K per school.

Don't put real financial numbers out there...Some folks just want to go all WAC for the sake of the matter.

Bingo!! Remember those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repete it.

$107,000 is really not much of a barrier to adding members if you think those members bring $107, 001 in benefits.

Considering that football is the driver in all of this realignment mess, it may be a good idea for some Go5 conferences to make sure they have enough "football schools" on board. Each Go5 conference may want to increase their chances of getting that one playoff spot.

Bankowsky was looking at 16 for a reason. There is not a vast separation between MAC/CUSA/SBC at the moment.

If stAte and UL were taken he wouldn't have to look at competition from behind for at least a few years...at least from SBC and could worry about AAC/MWC.

Who knows what will occur.
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RE: Playoff $$$ Payout Maxes Out at 12 Teams.
Top rated conference gets extra money. The more teams added, the more dead weight to conference bringing down rating.
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