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RE: biggest difference in fcs to fbs
(03-31-2013 06:25 AM)appfan89 Wrote:  
(03-30-2013 11:21 PM)Glassonion Wrote:  Here's a "big difference" maker.

http://youtu.be/_Cyv7BabgoI

Size, speed, athleticism, even though we're not supposed to have players like him.

Great video.

Here's a question for all in the Sun Belt that is in line with this thread. In the FCS, we didn't have instant replay until the Championship game. Does the Sun Belt have replay?

yes. and it cost us the game against the red woofs 2years ago.

granted......replay got it right.....but without replay we would have won.
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Anyone listen to Benson's conference call? He repeatedly said the only difference between App, Ga Southern and FBS were the letters FCS. He even brought up the Sagarin ratings and said both would have ranked in the top 1/3rd of the conference. That was out of Benson's mouth, not mine.
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(03-31-2013 07:22 AM)panama Wrote:  All FBS has replay.

I probably knew that. Thanks.
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(03-31-2013 07:24 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  
(03-31-2013 06:25 AM)appfan89 Wrote:  
(03-30-2013 11:21 PM)Glassonion Wrote:  Here's a "big difference" maker.

http://youtu.be/_Cyv7BabgoI

Size, speed, athleticism, even though we're not supposed to have players like him.

Great video.

Here's a question for all in the Sun Belt that is in line with this thread. In the FCS, we didn't have instant replay until the Championship game. Does the Sun Belt have replay?

yes. and it cost us the game against the red woofs 2years ago.

granted......replay got it right.....but without replay we would have won.

And that's why I brought it up. Sean Price torched Georgia Southern, but one run he had down the sideline was a very controversial run. He stepped out of bounds, but it wasn't called. Not sure if it was conclusive or not from a picture I saw.
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RE: biggest difference in fcs to fbs
(03-31-2013 07:43 AM)appfan89 Wrote:  
(03-31-2013 07:24 AM)dahbeed Wrote:  
(03-31-2013 06:25 AM)appfan89 Wrote:  
(03-30-2013 11:21 PM)Glassonion Wrote:  Here's a "big difference" maker.

http://youtu.be/_Cyv7BabgoI

Size, speed, athleticism, even though we're not supposed to have players like him.

Great video.

Here's a question for all in the Sun Belt that is in line with this thread. In the FCS, we didn't have instant replay until the Championship game. Does the Sun Belt have replay?

yes. and it cost us the game against the red woofs 2years ago.

granted......replay got it right.....but without replay we would have won.

And that's why I brought it up. Sean Price torched Georgia Southern, but one run he had down the sideline was a very controversial run. He stepped out of bounds, but it wasn't called. Not sure if it was conclusive or not from a picture I saw.

Let's not forget the non-catch that was ruled a TD by Brian Quick for ya'lls go ahead score in 2011.
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(03-31-2013 07:30 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Anyone listen to Benson's conference call? He repeatedly said the only difference between App, Ga Southern and FBS were the letters FCS. He even brought up the Sagarin ratings and said both would have ranked in the top 1/3rd of the conference. That was out of Benson's mouth, not mine.

Benson says a lot of things.
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(03-31-2013 08:50 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  
(03-31-2013 07:30 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  Anyone listen to Benson's conference call? He repeatedly said the only difference between App, Ga Southern and FBS were the letters FCS. He even brought up the Sagarin ratings and said both would have ranked in the top 1/3rd of the conference. That was out of Benson's mouth, not mine.

Benson says a lot of things.

True. That line about hoping WKU would choose to stay in the new Sun Belt was laughable at best.
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(03-30-2013 01:12 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  
(03-30-2013 01:07 PM)Glassonion Wrote:  
(03-30-2013 01:00 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  And they would say they played a terrible game and it was the first game of the season. My point, the score board and box score in the paper still read 35-13. Moral victories mean nothing in FBS Football. When it comes to WKU, ASU, UL, and ULM I expect similar results your first season.

We played terrible. We fumbled twice in the 1st, when we were eaily moving the ball. Ive got the game on DvD, have you even watched it once? I sure wouldnt feel comfortable judging the Cajuns...

I'm comfortable in that they scored 35 on you in the first game, we could score 45 with our offense. You will find out just how much your legend of the fall trophies matter the first couple years in FBS football.

He has to spend time over on the FCS board to make himself feel better. He doesn't realize the slate is now clean.
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(03-31-2013 04:20 PM)TUowl06 Wrote:  He has to spend time over on the FCS board to make himself feel better. He doesn't realize the slate is now clean.

App happens to be FCS transitional this year you troll, whats special about the fan of an FCS team on an FCS board.
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(03-30-2013 01:58 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  
(03-30-2013 01:29 PM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  
(03-30-2013 01:27 PM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  I actually did some research the other day because I found this topic intriguing. There actually isn't much of a difference between us, App St, and WKU. However there is a major difference between the three of us and a team like UGA (I know these are not the only qualifying statistics, but Its all I had time to look up).

Below I've listed the average combined weight of each position (minus kickers) for each team. This is a small testament to depth, even in starting positions the sizes were not that much different.

Listed in this order WKU | Ga. Southern | App State | UGA

WKU|GS|APP|UGA
C - ---|---|---|275
CB ---|179|185|182
DB 191|181|193|189
DE 249|230|---|281
DL 274|237|273|318
DT ---|277|---|281
FB 220|208|---|232
G ---|---|---|306
LB 233|208|---|232
LS 218|226|285|235
OL 253|274|290|310
OT ---|261|---|302
QB 205|195|207|207
RB 194|195|193|209
S ---|---|---|233
TE 247|247|240|233
WR 184.5(6'0)|185(5'10)|182(5'11)|195(6'1)

These were all pulled from the ESPN database (which I know isn't perfect), but by my observation your guys are not much larger than you originally thought. Clearly UGA's are...

Here you go Dahbeed. Just like you wanted...lmao.

lol pablo.....you knew it was just a matter of time.....even though i requested a no on that type of data.

it was just too tempting i guess.

Well you can't frame an entire argument on "don't pull out the stats and numbers, but trust me all the established programs will shock you with how big they are in the trenches, just you wait".

Then people pull out the stats and you refer to the age old "eye ball test". WEAK
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(03-31-2013 05:21 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  
(03-30-2013 01:58 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  
(03-30-2013 01:29 PM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  
(03-30-2013 01:27 PM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  I actually did some research the other day because I found this topic intriguing. There actually isn't much of a difference between us, App St, and WKU. However there is a major difference between the three of us and a team like UGA (I know these are not the only qualifying statistics, but Its all I had time to look up).

Below I've listed the average combined weight of each position (minus kickers) for each team. This is a small testament to depth, even in starting positions the sizes were not that much different.

Listed in this order WKU | Ga. Southern | App State | UGA

WKU|GS|APP|UGA
C - ---|---|---|275
CB ---|179|185|182
DB 191|181|193|189
DE 249|230|---|281
DL 274|237|273|318
DT ---|277|---|281
FB 220|208|---|232
G ---|---|---|306
LB 233|208|---|232
LS 218|226|285|235
OL 253|274|290|310
OT ---|261|---|302
QB 205|195|207|207
RB 194|195|193|209
S ---|---|---|233
TE 247|247|240|233
WR 184.5(6'0)|185(5'10)|182(5'11)|195(6'1)

These were all pulled from the ESPN database (which I know isn't perfect), but by my observation your guys are not much larger than you originally thought. Clearly UGA's are...

Here you go Dahbeed. Just like you wanted...lmao.

lol pablo.....you knew it was just a matter of time.....even though i requested a no on that type of data.

it was just too tempting i guess.

Well you can't frame an entire argument on "don't pull out the stats and numbers, but trust me all the established programs will shock you with how big they are in the trenches, just you wait".

Then people pull out the stats and you refer to the age old "eye ball test". WEAK

no amigo. what's weak is the validity of pressguide numbers. that's why i non-requested them.

i don't care what your fictional numbers are from your athletic department. i put zero stock in them. to make you feel better....i put no stock in what western rolls out either.

i do put stock in what i see. you don't have to believe me homie. i'm just one guy offering one opinion.

you may not be very surprised because it looks like you'll be in the east division with the other (smaller) moveups. but when you play the cajuns or the red woofs...you will notice the difference. i'll be long gone so just file it away as an educational experience.
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Why are the Cajuns or red wolfs or anyone else in the SBC going to be bigger or faster than any of the other FBS teams we've ever played?
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(03-31-2013 06:46 PM)nomadb Wrote:  Why are the Cajuns or red wolfs or anyone else in the SBC going to be bigger or faster than any of the other FBS teams we've ever played?

They aren't; but you were not as big or as fast as those teams either. And they were not gameplanning for you. The Cajuns and Red Wolves will be.
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(03-31-2013 06:32 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  
(03-31-2013 05:21 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  
(03-30-2013 01:58 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  
(03-30-2013 01:29 PM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  
(03-30-2013 01:27 PM)TrueBlueAlum Wrote:  I actually did some research the other day because I found this topic intriguing. There actually isn't much of a difference between us, App St, and WKU. However there is a major difference between the three of us and a team like UGA (I know these are not the only qualifying statistics, but Its all I had time to look up).

Below I've listed the average combined weight of each position (minus kickers) for each team. This is a small testament to depth, even in starting positions the sizes were not that much different.

Listed in this order WKU | Ga. Southern | App State | UGA

WKU|GS|APP|UGA
C - ---|---|---|275
CB ---|179|185|182
DB 191|181|193|189
DE 249|230|---|281
DL 274|237|273|318
DT ---|277|---|281
FB 220|208|---|232
G ---|---|---|306
LB 233|208|---|232
LS 218|226|285|235
OL 253|274|290|310
OT ---|261|---|302
QB 205|195|207|207
RB 194|195|193|209
S ---|---|---|233
TE 247|247|240|233
WR 184.5(6'0)|185(5'10)|182(5'11)|195(6'1)

These were all pulled from the ESPN database (which I know isn't perfect), but by my observation your guys are not much larger than you originally thought. Clearly UGA's are...

Here you go Dahbeed. Just like you wanted...lmao.

lol pablo.....you knew it was just a matter of time.....even though i requested a no on that type of data.

it was just too tempting i guess.

Well you can't frame an entire argument on "don't pull out the stats and numbers, but trust me all the established programs will shock you with how big they are in the trenches, just you wait".

Then people pull out the stats and you refer to the age old "eye ball test". WEAK

no amigo. what's weak is the validity of pressguide numbers. that's why i non-requested them.

i don't care what your fictional numbers are from your athletic department. i put zero stock in them. to make you feel better....i put no stock in what western rolls out either.

i do put stock in what i see. you don't have to believe me homie. i'm just one guy offering one opinion.

you may not be very surprised because it looks like you'll be in the east division with the other (smaller) moveups. but when you play the cajuns or the red woofs...you will notice the difference. i'll be long gone so just file it away as an educational experience.

You can start by learning to address others as the men or women they present themselves. Amigo, homie, bro, bra.....
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(03-31-2013 07:01 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  
(03-31-2013 06:32 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  
(03-31-2013 05:21 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  
(03-30-2013 01:58 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  
(03-30-2013 01:29 PM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  Here you go Dahbeed. Just like you wanted...lmao.

lol pablo.....you knew it was just a matter of time.....even though i requested a no on that type of data.

it was just too tempting i guess.

Well you can't frame an entire argument on "don't pull out the stats and numbers, but trust me all the established programs will shock you with how big they are in the trenches, just you wait".

Then people pull out the stats and you refer to the age old "eye ball test". WEAK

no amigo. what's weak is the validity of pressguide numbers. that's why i non-requested them.

i don't care what your fictional numbers are from your athletic department. i put zero stock in them. to make you feel better....i put no stock in what western rolls out either.

i do put stock in what i see. you don't have to believe me homie. i'm just one guy offering one opinion.

you may not be very surprised because it looks like you'll be in the east division with the other (smaller) moveups. but when you play the cajuns or the red woofs...you will notice the difference. i'll be long gone so just file it away as an educational experience.

You can start by learning to address others as the men or women they present themselves. Amigo, homie, bro, bra.....

Dabeed is a cool dude. His personna here is a bit extreme, but he is definitely one of the good guys. You are unfortunate that WKU is gone and you likely will never meet him.
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03-yawn I'm bored.......
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(03-31-2013 07:01 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  
(03-31-2013 06:32 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  
(03-31-2013 05:21 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  
(03-30-2013 01:58 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  
(03-30-2013 01:29 PM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  Here you go Dahbeed. Just like you wanted...lmao.

lol pablo.....you knew it was just a matter of time.....even though i requested a no on that type of data.

it was just too tempting i guess.

Well you can't frame an entire argument on "don't pull out the stats and numbers, but trust me all the established programs will shock you with how big they are in the trenches, just you wait".

Then people pull out the stats and you refer to the age old "eye ball test". WEAK

no amigo. what's weak is the validity of pressguide numbers. that's why i non-requested them.

i don't care what your fictional numbers are from your athletic department. i put zero stock in them. to make you feel better....i put no stock in what western rolls out either.

i do put stock in what i see. you don't have to believe me homie. i'm just one guy offering one opinion.

you may not be very surprised because it looks like you'll be in the east division with the other (smaller) moveups. but when you play the cajuns or the red woofs...you will notice the difference. i'll be long gone so just file it away as an educational experience.

You can start by learning to address others as the men or women they present themselves. Amigo, homie, bro, bra.....

how do i address you......man who ***** buffalos?

lol. calm down bro-seph. you don't like my message and i won't let you argue fake as a scripper's rack numbers so you attack my linguistic skills....or lack of.

again....one man's opinion. no need to get riled up. this is a message board. not parliamentary procedure governed by robert's rules of order.

p.s. if my writing skillz offend you now be glad you weren't on this board years ago.
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(03-31-2013 07:33 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  
(03-31-2013 07:01 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  
(03-31-2013 06:32 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  
(03-31-2013 05:21 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  
(03-30-2013 01:58 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  lol pablo.....you knew it was just a matter of time.....even though i requested a no on that type of data.

it was just too tempting i guess.

Well you can't frame an entire argument on "don't pull out the stats and numbers, but trust me all the established programs will shock you with how big they are in the trenches, just you wait".

Then people pull out the stats and you refer to the age old "eye ball test". WEAK

no amigo. what's weak is the validity of pressguide numbers. that's why i non-requested them.

i don't care what your fictional numbers are from your athletic department. i put zero stock in them. to make you feel better....i put no stock in what western rolls out either.

i do put stock in what i see. you don't have to believe me homie. i'm just one guy offering one opinion.

you may not be very surprised because it looks like you'll be in the east division with the other (smaller) moveups. but when you play the cajuns or the red woofs...you will notice the difference. i'll be long gone so just file it away as an educational experience.

You can start by learning to address others as the men or women they present themselves. Amigo, homie, bro, bra.....

how do i address you......man who ***** buffalos?

lol. calm down bro-seph. you don't like my message and i won't let you argue fake as a scripper's rack numbers so you attack my linguistic skills....or lack of.

again....one man's opinion. no need to get riled up. this is a message board. not parliamentary procedure governed by robert's rules of order.

p.s. if my writing skillz offend you now be glad you weren't on this board years ago.
Was that a Mr Ho reference?
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(03-31-2013 07:38 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  
(03-31-2013 07:33 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  
(03-31-2013 07:01 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  
(03-31-2013 06:32 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  
(03-31-2013 05:21 PM)ManOnABuffalo Wrote:  Well you can't frame an entire argument on "don't pull out the stats and numbers, but trust me all the established programs will shock you with how big they are in the trenches, just you wait".

Then people pull out the stats and you refer to the age old "eye ball test". WEAK

no amigo. what's weak is the validity of pressguide numbers. that's why i non-requested them.

i don't care what your fictional numbers are from your athletic department. i put zero stock in them. to make you feel better....i put no stock in what western rolls out either.

i do put stock in what i see. you don't have to believe me homie. i'm just one guy offering one opinion.

you may not be very surprised because it looks like you'll be in the east division with the other (smaller) moveups. but when you play the cajuns or the red woofs...you will notice the difference. i'll be long gone so just file it away as an educational experience.

You can start by learning to address others as the men or women they present themselves. Amigo, homie, bro, bra.....

how do i address you......man who ***** buffalos?

lol. calm down bro-seph. you don't like my message and i won't let you argue fake as a scripper's rack numbers so you attack my linguistic skills....or lack of.

again....one man's opinion. no need to get riled up. this is a message board. not parliamentary procedure governed by robert's rules of order.

p.s. if my writing skillz offend you now be glad you weren't on this board years ago.
Was that a Mr Ho reference?

Are you talking about Troy's Mr Ho?
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no......i love mr. ho.

i bow down to his schtick and wit.

i was referring back to my old days when i posted in the 3rd person in a mish-mash of hiphop ebonics and spanish......also at times under the influence of firewater.

i've come a long way.

someone that frequents the troy board....please tell me mr. ho is still bringing it over there.
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