(02-10-2013 09:01 AM)beck Wrote:  We all know our big men are just dreadful, awful . The second thing is the lack of motion on the offensive end; layers just standing around, usually three eor four of them outside the arc.

Ya'll are saying you're looking forward to having a new roster but you're not really calling out anyone from this year's roster. Who are you mad at?

Nyarsuk and Mbodj are stiffs.

I actually like what Big Dave brings. Has much better hands and positions himself to be able to demand the ball in the post....if we only had star guards who didn't think this was the summer league who would actually feed it in once in a dang while.

Last night DN couldn't get down the floor on a Pitt break, fell over about 4 times, had 3 rebounds, and
was 0 for 0 from the floor, 0 for 0 from FT, and 1 ASST.
What's not to love?

Still a long way to go. I seem to remember this same thing happen the past two years only to have them turn it on and go on a tear in late February/March.

(02-10-2013 10:06 AM)UCPT99 Wrote:  Wow, people ready for next year's roster already. You want to know what next year's roster will look like? Watch Guyn run the point without any offensive production and plug him him in 25-30 min a game next year. Take away Parkers toughness and rebounding. We have already seen Jackson and Rubles at the 4/5, which works for brief periods, but Rubles thinks he is a 3 point specialist and Jackson has the lowest Bball IQ in college. Add in the freshmen who will look good in Nov and Dec, but will look like deer in headlights in BEast play and that is next years roster. Cash may not be playing well right now, but he will be missed more than any player in the Cronin era.

Completely agree. It's funny how when Cash is playing well there are a lot of posts about how it's going to suck next year with Guyn. Now that Cash is struggling through an injury it's suddenly going to be so much better next year with Guyn? Lawrence will have an impact next year (I could see 7-8 ppg), but I don't expect much at all from the rest of the incoming Freshman. There also hasn't been overwhelming optimism about the 2nd year guys around here. I chalk it up to the frustration of losing. When the current team isn't playing well you make a case for why it'll be better next year.

(02-10-2013 12:08 PM)BearcatBeta Wrote:  Last night DN couldn't get down the floor on a Pitt break, fell over about 4 times, had 3 rebounds, and
was 0 for 0 from the floor, 0 for 0 from FT, and 1 ASST.
What's not to love?

We're you watching the right channel or are you just looking at box scores? In the handful of minutes he played he completely altered shots that turned into UC rebounds and consistently fought for position on the low block. Dude was open but Cash will not look inside. When guys replacing Cash looked inside, Dave got the ball and got fouled immediately. Novel idea.

There is plenty to like.

Rath, I don't disagree on the feeding of the bigs. Shoot, they barely fed Yancey and he COULD score. I would hope we could get better big men as many have stated.

(02-10-2013 02:19 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(02-10-2013 12:08 PM)BearcatBeta Wrote:  Last night DN couldn't get down the floor on a Pitt break, fell over about 4 times, had 3 rebounds, and
was 0 for 0 from the floor, 0 for 0 from FT, and 1 ASST.
What's not to love?

We're you watching the right channel or are you just looking at box scores? In the handful of minutes he played he completely altered shots that turned into UC rebounds and consistently fought for position on the low block. Dude was open but Cash will not look inside. When guys replacing Cash looked inside, Dave got the ball and got fouled immediately. Novel idea.

There is plenty to like.

At Game. Eyes don't lie.

Dave is open because no one cares if he gets the ball. My last offensive option would be getting DN the ball with his back to the basket.

I was at the game as well. When they dumped the ball down low and then moved into position to receive a kick-out pass, shots were open and plentiful. The gameplan at game's beginning seemed to center around JJ taking the slower Pitt defender out high and beating him to the basket. Worked like a charm until he got hurt.

I'm not "blaming" anyone. But Mick's game plan was fine. Guys are passing it around the perimeter and folks around me are screaming to feed it to the big man asking for the ball. Cash and Titus would get a seam, start to drive to the hoop and inexplicably stop. Cash has been hurt but eventually he has to get back to playing fearlessly or get off the court for his and the team's sake.

The offense is never going to be a thing of beauty but there have been positive signs. I'll go the bank saying they won't miss 10-15 warmup shots per game in another game this year.

I don't know why our guards seem so afraid of driving and absorbing contact, and hopefully going to the FT line. S K and Cash are typically automatic from the FT line. But neither seem comfortable or adept at drawing fouls.

(02-10-2013 02:19 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(02-10-2013 12:08 PM)BearcatBeta Wrote:  Last night DN couldn't get down the floor on a Pitt break, fell over about 4 times, had 3 rebounds, and
was 0 for 0 from the floor, 0 for 0 from FT, and 1 ASST.
What's not to love?

We're you watching the right channel or are you just looking at box scores? In the handful of minutes he played he completely altered shots that turned into UC rebounds and consistently fought for position on the low block. Dude was open but Cash will not look inside. When guys replacing Cash looked inside, Dave got the ball and got fouled immediately. Novel idea.

There is plenty to like.

I hate when I agree with you, but I do.

Nyarsuk is one of the few big man that actually implements a true pick and roll. And he's open but they don't pass it to him.

And I agree, he does alter shots.

(02-10-2013 05:22 PM)BearChatter v2.0 Wrote:  

(02-10-2013 02:19 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(02-10-2013 12:08 PM)BearcatBeta Wrote:  Last night DN couldn't get down the floor on a Pitt break, fell over about 4 times, had 3 rebounds, and
was 0 for 0 from the floor, 0 for 0 from FT, and 1 ASST.
What's not to love?

We're you watching the right channel or are you just looking at box scores? In the handful of minutes he played he completely altered shots that turned into UC rebounds and consistently fought for position on the low block. Dude was open but Cash will not look inside. When guys replacing Cash looked inside, Dave got the ball and got fouled immediately. Novel idea.

There is plenty to like.

I hate when I agree with you, but I do.

Nyarsuk is one of the few big man that actually implements a true pick and roll. And he's open but they don't pass it to him.

And I agree, he does alter shots.

Coming from Mountain State, thats an extremely GIANT jump to the big east. He wasnt going to put up the numbers he put up there. He needs to continue to get minutes to get used to this style of play and stay in the weight room. Also he was late to sign so he didnt get the same off season workout as the rest of our guys. Look at the body transformation of Sanders and Mbodj. Even though we dont need him to lose weight like these 2 and need him to bulk up, I can see him doing this with our strength and conditioning coach. Also I know he is still a disappointment in the eyes of most if not all UC fans, but mbodj is still a different player from last year. (still not that great i know) but having 1 year of D1 basketball under your belt atleast lets you know what to expect and prepare for in the off season. With that said I (hopefully) see DN showing progression in his game to become quicker and stronger.

One rule change I'd like to see is allowing JUCO's 3 years in D-1 even if they spent 2 years at JUCO. I think the development of some guys could be surprising if some of these guys had another year.

And I realize the opposite is that you could end up with a kid too long if he doesn't improve and stops progressing quickly.

Frankly, I wouldn't mind allowing kids 5 years if they played less than 10 minutes per game on average their frosh year. If they are NBA good enough by their 4th year, they can choose to leave.

I went home early from work because I was sick all weekend and sick again today with a bad chest cough, fever, chills, and tiredness. Anyway, was listening to Mo's show a little after 4 pm, and he kept talking about Mick said this and that........and I got the impression he interviewed Mick earlier in his show. Did he? Or did I read that wrong? If he did, what did Mick say?

(02-09-2013 08:52 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Personally, I am looking forward to having some new faces in uniform next year.

hopefully, the new big men will show our vets how to score inside the paint. I just hope this team doesn't screw up so bad the rest of the season that Jermaine Lawrence changes his mind before the signing date. I'm sick of Mbodj and Nyarsuk with a basketball in their hands on offense. The foreigners from africa haven't been much of a plus for UC and Adam H wasn't much of an ambassador of Poland basketball either. Mick needs to stick with the US. Players with skills. ALso, Mick needs to not go 100 per cent with quicker , athletic players when there are a ton of slower players that can stick free throws and hit jumpers a lot better than what we've seen for a while.
I support Mick Cronin, just wish he'd adjust better on recruiting. He definitely needs some key recruits to get better while they're here.

(02-11-2013 03:40 PM)BearChatter v2.0 Wrote:  One rule change I'd like to see is allowing JUCO's 3 years in D-1 even if they spent 2 years at JUCO. I think the development of some guys could be surprising if some of these guys had another year.

And I realize the opposite is that you could end up with a kid too long if he doesn't improve and stops progressing quickly.

Frankly, I wouldn't mind allowing kids 5 years if they played less than 10 minutes per game on average their frosh year. If they are NBA good enough by their 4th year, they can choose to leave.

oh lord no, chatter. We don't need another year of the Mbodj fiasco. He isn't going to get any better on offense. That extra year will just hurt in Coach Cronin able to get better basketball players to replace him.
Don't get me wrong. I believe Mbodj is a super young man that is well liked by his teammates and friends. God just didn't mean for him to be a basketball player at a major Division I Basketball program.
Just my opinion.

(02-12-2013 07:15 PM)bearcat54 Wrote:  

(02-09-2013 08:52 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Personally, I am looking forward to having some new faces in uniform next year.

hopefully, the new big men will show our vets how to score inside the paint. I just hope this team doesn't screw up so bad the rest of the season that Jermaine Lawrence changes his mind before the signing date. I'm sick of Mbodj and Nyarsuk with a basketball in their hands on offense. The foreigners from africa haven't been much of a plus for UC and Adam H wasn't much of an ambassador of Poland basketball either. Mick needs to stick with the US. Players with skills. ALso, Mick needs to not go 100 per cent with quicker , athletic players when there are a ton of slower players that can stick free throws and hit jumpers a lot better than what we've seen for a while.
I support Mick Cronin, just wish he'd adjust better on recruiting. He definitely needs some key recruits to get better while they're here.

Or hire a coach that can develop those players, see Dieng at UL or Thabeet formally of UConn among many other success stories. But without someone who can teach big men yeah I agree with you, problem is talented big men are the most sought after hs players.

Strickland looks like a natural scorer...

(02-10-2013 03:36 PM)BearcatBeta Wrote:  

(02-10-2013 02:19 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(02-10-2013 12:08 PM)BearcatBeta Wrote:  Last night DN couldn't get down the floor on a Pitt break, fell over about 4 times, had 3 rebounds, and
was 0 for 0 from the floor, 0 for 0 from FT, and 1 ASST.
What's not to love?

We're you watching the right channel or are you just looking at box scores? In the handful of minutes he played he completely altered shots that turned into UC rebounds and consistently fought for position on the low block. Dude was open but Cash will not look inside. When guys replacing Cash looked inside, Dave got the ball and got fouled immediately. Novel idea.

There is plenty to like.

At Game. Eyes don't lie.

how many of those free throws did Nyarsuk make? he can shoot them all night but unless they make most of them, its not really much help.

(02-10-2013 02:22 AM)subflea Wrote:  The gameplan was fine. The offense looked good most of the game. When your top two shooters are missing every wide open shot the offense gives them you will lose.

that is absolutely correct.
Our inside offense is pretty much non-existent still.
Last year , our offense worked better because opponents had to double team Gates. We sure miss a Yancy Gates on this team now.