At the end of the day, just WIN baby. That solves a LOT of things.

Second Week of September 2012 ? Where did the time go! Lol

I really don't care whether or not 'Cuse and Pitt will "regret leaving". All I want is for the Big East to be as strong as possible going forward.

(08-19-2012 10:02 AM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  I really don't care whether or not 'Cuse and Pitt will "regret leaving". All I want is for the Big East to be as strong as possible going forward.

Agree, but if they "regret leaving," that means we ARE as strong as possible going forward, I would think.

(08-19-2012 08:42 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  Second Week of September 2012 ? Where did the time go! Lol

LOL, I meant 2011.

I've been in Alabama the last two days, the 'Bama fans are everywhere flying their Colors. That kind of groundswell support is what We as Fans of NBE need to do daily to inspire others to get onboard. Fly Your school colors,fill stadiums and Bars,restaurants. The more exposure the Beast gets the better the perception the media will respond to.

You got the wrong conference if you are hoping for that. Places like Alabama and other SEC members have NOTHING to root for. THERE IS NOTHING out there except for their university. Vastly, different from large cities.

(08-16-2012 02:22 PM)bearcatfan Wrote:  WVU, like Pitt and SU before them, panicked when they saw all of the $$$ flying around and thought they had better get while the gettin' was good. Only time will tell if it was the correct decision.

Syracuse did not panic. They wanted to be in an all-sports conference since the 90's and preferred to be with like minded institutions such as Boston College, Miami, Duke, and Wake Forest. Not sure why people simply cannot understand that Syracuse has nothing in common with Boise State, San Diego State, Memphis, etc. The New Big East is not the Big East Syracuse was once in and founded. Its CUSA with the Big East name.

(08-20-2012 08:21 AM)snowycuse Wrote:  

(08-16-2012 02:22 PM)bearcatfan Wrote:  WVU, like Pitt and SU before them, panicked when they saw all of the $$$ flying around and thought they had better get while the gettin' was good. Only time will tell if it was the correct decision.

Syracuse did not panic. They wanted to be in an all-sports conference since the 90's and preferred to be with like minded institutions such as Boston College, Miami, Duke, and Wake Forest. Not sure why people simply cannot understand that Syracuse has nothing in common with Boise State, San Diego State, Memphis, etc. The New Big East is not the Big East Syracuse was once in and founded. Its CUSA with the Big East name.

Syracuse doesn't have much in common with tiny schools like Wake or Duke...yet that didn't stop them from joining their conf.

Pitt and Cuse have made their bed (with the ACC) and only time will tell if it was the right move...but even Pitt & Cuse fans have to be impressed that the Big East seems to have a leader that will have the conf on the right track...and its good that one of his goals is for Pitt and Cuse to ultimately regret their decision to leave AFTER this New Big East conf produces.

One would hope EVERY leader would think like that...but even under Tranghese or Marinatto, that was never the case.

Pitt and Cuse have a history with the ACC teams over the years. They do not with Boise, SDSU, SMU, Houston, Memphis and UCF. I am sorry but I respect their decision. It is time to drive on and worry about making the Big East work. These teams are gone forever:

Boston College
Syracuse
Pitt
Virginia Tech
West Virginia
Miami

I say add Boise and SDSU for all sports, if they want to, and drive on!

(08-20-2012 08:21 AM)snowycuse Wrote:  

(08-16-2012 02:22 PM)bearcatfan Wrote:  WVU, like Pitt and SU before them, panicked when they saw all of the $$$ flying around and thought they had better get while the gettin' was good. Only time will tell if it was the correct decision.

Syracuse did not panic. They wanted to be in an all-sports conference since the 90's and preferred to be with like minded institutions such as Boston College, Miami, Duke, and Wake Forest. Not sure why people simply cannot understand that Syracuse has nothing in common with Boise State, San Diego State, Memphis, etc. The New Big East is not the Big East Syracuse was once in and founded. Its CUSA with the Big East name.

Like-minded in that you all have bad football teams?

(08-20-2012 08:48 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Pitt and Cuse have a history with the ACC teams over the years.

Pitt and Cuse had a heck of a lot more history with Georgetown, St Johns, UCONN, Rutgers, Providence, Villanova, etc...but that didn't stop them leaving the conf.

I cannot speak for Pitt. But it appears Syracuse has been trying to get into the ACC for the better part of a decade and a half. That is why I said they would not regret it. Pittsburgh left I think more for self preservation, i.e. if you don't come, we'll simply take someone else. Not saying they did not want to go, because they certainly dying to get into the Big Ten a couple of years back, but Syracuse seemed hell bent on leaving the Big East since 2003.

Cuse hasn't been relevant in fb since before McNabb and Company...they are a running joke. Basketball, on the other hand, is where Cuse makes their name. Pitt has, through their own fault and pure circumstance, really fallen off the radar with 5 coaches in a little over 2 years.

The only team the Big east should miss is WVU - a flagship, annually ranked fb powerhouse. Other than that, the Big east gained or at the very least stayed even.

i don't count TCU as they conference hop more often than a keynote motivational speaker.

Syracuse and Pitt had a lot of value, even if the scoreboard did not show it in football the past few years. Primarily with them gone, the only team in the Big East that has been a BCS member for more than ten years is Rutgers. Four of the top teams (projected) in the conference will be teams that were playing 1AA ball 15 or 16 years ago, with a fifth team that is just now recovering from the death penalty, a sixth who is recovering from their own version of the death penalty (Louisville's really bad coaching hire), a seventh team still digging out of years of severe underfunding (Memphis), and an eighth team who has now recovered from it (Temple).

Syracuse and Pittsburgh may not have been the cream of the crop for the last decade, but historically the helped provide some ounce of credibility to the core of the league. As one fo Cuse' fans said above, the new Big east or more or less the old C-USA in terms of football. Had all three stayed along with the addition of Boise, yes I think things could have been better for all. But Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville, TCU, and WVU all played a game of prisoner's delimna. Louisville and Pitt chose not to pull the trigger, and lost because of it. Wind got out that WVU was going to pull the trigger, Syracuse decided to pull it first, and everyone lost because of it. some found safe harbors, some did not. Some won, and some lost. But I think something really bad has to happen to any of the four schools that left for them to truely regret it, in part because of how it all went down.

(08-20-2012 09:27 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  I cannot speak for Pitt. But it appears Syracuse has been trying to get into the ACC for the better part of a decade and a half. That is why I said they would not regret it.

One has nothing to do with the other.

Its similar to a girlfriend or wife...as in at the time...even after a long courtship...she was your #1....but overtime...(i.e. over the years) she ends up NOT being your #1.

No one can predict what Syracuse or Pitt will think/feel in say 2022...regardless how long they WANTED to get into the ACC.

Similar to UL...who WANTED to be in the Big East...yet now many of their fans, after 7 years, want to jump ship to another conf.

yes but no one regrets leaving C-USA or wants to go back either. Now if you are asking would either of them have preferred a different move, that is a different question. But the only way I can see them regretting leaving is the unlikely scenario of someone raiding the ACC, the ACC falls apart, and they were not welcomed back, and have no landing spot. The only one I can see possibly regretting the move is WVU. One, they started the panic that lead to others jumping ship. Two, if the reported 4x16 ever comes to fruition (I don't think it will) it means the Big XII died (or that the Pac 12 copied the Big East and made a nationwide conference). But even then, WVU would find a home, so they still would not regret it. TCU is where they always wanted to be, as Syracuse is where it wants to be. Still not sure on Pitt, as I just don't know how they feel, but with more original BE teams in the ACC (5) then the BE (1 full bath and two half baths) I think they beleive they are still fine where they are.

(08-20-2012 09:49 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  Syracuse and Pitt had a lot of value, even if the scoreboard did not show it in football the past few years. Primarily with them gone, the only team in the Big East that has been a BCS member for more than ten years is Rutgers. Four of the top teams (projected) in the conference will be teams that were playing 1AA ball 15 or 16 years ago, with a fifth team that is just now recovering from the death penalty, a sixth who is recovering from their own version of the death penalty (Louisville's really bad coaching hire), a seventh team still digging out of years of severe underfunding (Memphis), and an eighth team who has now recovered from it (Temple).

Syracuse and Pittsburgh may not have been the cream of the crop for the last decade, but historically the helped provide some ounce of credibility to the core of the league. As one fo Cuse' fans said above, the new Big east or more or less the old C-USA in terms of football. Had all three stayed along with the addition of Boise, yes I think things could have been better for all. But Syracuse, Pitt, Louisville, TCU, and WVU all played a game of prisoner's delimna. Louisville and Pitt chose not to pull the trigger, and lost because of it. Wind got out that WVU was going to pull the trigger, Syracuse decided to pull it first, and everyone lost because of it. some found safe harbors, some did not. Some won, and some lost. But I think something really bad has to happen to any of the four schools that left for them to truely regret it, in part because of how it all went down.

"Syracuse and Pittsburgh may not have been the cream of the crop for the last decade"

seriously, not a flame, not

can you really tell me the last time either syracuse or pitt were good. i can remember syracuse in the 88 sugar bowl. i cant really remember pitt being good. johnny majors and tony dorsett are the most recent, honest to goodness national contenders i can remember at pitt...most of yall probably werent alive.

(08-20-2012 10:09 AM)shere khan Wrote:  can you really tell me the last time either syracuse or pitt were good.

Last time Syracuse football won 10 games was back when current HS Seniors were just 6 years old (2001).

Pitt's had better recent success in football than Syracuse...but they've had UP years and not so great years (i.e. non winning seasons in 2005, 2006, 2007, 2011).

Pitt has been "solid" for many of the past few years. Then have 8 or 9 bowl games going back to about 2000. National Contender? No. But solid teams build the core of your conference. I believe they nearly had a player win the Heisman in the last decade as well (Larry Fitzgerald). Syracuse has had a rough go of the past decade. But then again so had Temple, SMU and Baylor up until about two years ago, and everyone thinks of them abel to catch up to past glory.