(08-11-2012 09:17 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  That was nice. So Palin got Consevatives to vote for McCain over Barack Hussein Obama. Good work there. I didn't realize that. Those Tulane professors must have had some down time. Stunning revelations.

Seriously,

Um Mach, you were the one claiming that Palin didn't excite the base. You were talking about going back to my old posts and bring them back as an illustration I was wrong when I said she did. Then you, admirably, realized that was a dumb position to take and admitted she did, then after I provide you the evidence that fact you act like it was a no brainer?

This is why I find it so difficult to have a rational discussion with you. You are absolutely schizophrenic when you post on here.

I have exclusive video of Obama's reaction

Then you have a comprehension problem Niner. I KNOW RYAN will excite the base. The problem is the base scares the **** out of 60% of us. I just went over to Drudge. It's a party over there. If all you only went to Drudge and Foxnews you can see how a mind becomes isolated in the bubble. The pom poms are thick over there.

I have to pinch myself. It's like Christmas here.

That's great Max.

(08-11-2012 09:31 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Then you have a comprehension problem Niner. I KNOW RYAN will excite the base. The problem is the base scares the **** out of 60% of us. I just went over to Drudge. It's a party over there. If all you only went to Drudge and Foxnews you can see how a mind becomes isolated in the bubble. The pom poms are thick over there.

Mach independents aren't going to not vote for Romney because they don't like other people that will also vote for Romney.

Ryan is not a scary guy. He's not someone you can listen to and come away thinking he's a kook. Remember the Ryan pushing granny off a cliff back in 2010? Those ads didn't work.

And let's be realistic here. It's not as though the Obama camp was going to stop class warfare if Romney didn't pick Ryan. It will be their tactic from now til election today to divide Americans and hope that enough fall on their side to win Obama a second term. So Ryan doesn't cost Romney anything in that regard.

What Ryan does do is give Romney someone who is an effective and intelligent communicator who can go out and tear down democrat ideas and do so without empty rhetoric. I'm not saying it will be enough, I'm not saying it propels Romney to victory. What I'm saying is that it's not a terrible pick. It's not the game changer I would have liked, but it's a safe one.

Why is Ryan scary?

(08-11-2012 08:54 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Niner thought Palin would excite the base too.

What happened to the "Big Red Machine"? They never made mistakes like this. They were always the smart guy in the room. Guess what? The base is ALREADY EXCITED and MOTIVATED. You need to expand. The wolf in sheeps clothing types. You're nominating sheep in wolves clothing. Sheeps to slaughter. If a Democrat could have picked Mitt's running mate Ryan would make the shortest of short lists. I need to research the **** you said about Palin when Democrat's howled in laughter in 08'. I remember the standard. You just don't get it Mach. This will excite the base. The base is frothing at the mouth as it is.............. You need to expand. Horrible horrible pick for Willard.

Oh, she did/does "excite" the base. :schwartz:

(08-11-2012 09:21 AM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  

(08-11-2012 09:17 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  That was nice. So Palin got Consevatives to vote for McCain over Barack Hussein Obama. Good work there. I didn't realize that. Those Tulane professors must have had some down time. Stunning revelations.

Seriously,

Um Mach, you were the one claiming that Palin didn't excite the base. You were talking about going back to my old posts and bring them back as an illustration I was wrong when I said she did. Then you, admirably, realized that was a dumb position to take and admitted she did, then after I provide you the evidence that fact you act like it was a no brainer?

This is why I find it so difficult to have a rational discussion with you. You are absolutely schizophrenic when you post on here.

Palin's look is the only thing she had/has that can "excite" anyone. That is why you guys like her. You guys think with your "heads" rather than your brain.

(08-11-2012 09:36 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I have to pinch myself. It's like Christmas here.

I promise it won't feel like Christmas on November 6.

COTUS can keep on attacking Romney's wealth but at some point the economy will be discussed during this campaign. He can't say too much except:
- he never signed a budget in his first term even when he had full control of the House and Senate for 2 years
- he ran up another $5tt in debt
- the United States credit rating was downgraded for the first time ever under his brilliant leadership
- unemployment above 8.0% for 41 straight months
- more people on foodstamps than ever
- the GM stimulus was just a payback to his union voters
- ObamaCare does tax Americans for not participating and wait'll January for the sh!t to hit the fan there
- Oh, and the fiscal cliff is dead ahead in January as well
- still hasn't visited our old ally Israel for some reason
- sat on his ass for 37 days before openly talking about the BP oil spill

At the end of the day, COTUS and his plagerizing VP can run but they can't hide from their hideous lack of accomplishment. Hell, even the bin Laden takedown was solely the work of Panetta; COTUS made it clear that if it blew up, then Panetta would be the fall guy.

Now, the election will be close. There are damn sure enough liberals, extremists, illegal aliens, OWS anarchists, and dead voters to pull the lever for COTUS even though he is wiping his @ss with the Constitution and pushing America to his much-anticipated socialist state. Plus the 5th column media is fully on their knees for COTUS.

I'm looking forward to Ryan tearing Biden a new one in their debate, plus verbally laying the wood to COTUS for the next 3 months.

Time will tell.

(08-11-2012 10:25 AM)RobertN Wrote:  Palin's look is the only thing she had/has that can "excite" anyone. That is why you guys like her. You guys think with your "heads" rather than your brain.

Since you have no idea what it feels like for your "head" to get "excited" it's not shock you wouldn't understand.

This pick may have just lost the election and the country.

Eh, maybe so, but in the meantime, watching him rope-a-dope Grandpa Joe in the debates should be good for a chuckle.

(08-11-2012 10:42 AM)Claw Wrote:  This pick may have just lost the election and the country.

It was happens when you leave big decisions to Mittens.

Well he had to pick establishment. Too bad the establishment also had a big hand in what went wrong in the first place.

Yeah a normal family guy with a wife and kids who actually put proposals out there for possible solutions to Medicare and social security is scary.

Idiots.

Are you trying to win Maximus?

Giving tax breaks to the rich while cutting entitlements............. How do you think that's going to play with the electorate that will decide the election? You are talking about the soft 10-20% that doesn't pay a whole lot of attention. This is just a disastrous pick. Democrats are high fiving across the country. Game set match.

(08-11-2012 12:13 PM)maximus Wrote:  Yeah a normal family guy with a wife and kids who actually put proposals out there for possible solutions to Medicare and social security is scary.

Idiots.

Most of them are normal family guys if you take the office away.

I personally don't think that he's scary. He's party establishment though and that just makes anyone unattractive to me. Maybe I'll see more from him in the future that will make me change my mind, but it ain't lookin good.

What's Ryan's background? Was he born with a silver spoon in his mouth too?