I am just visiting over here for the first time due to the latest rumors of FSU/Clemson along with potential future realignment involving UNC/NC St./GT, Maryland, etc.

I realize it's all speculation at this point but I personally can see ESPN driving college football further into the haves vs have-nots. A big4 conference scenario could play out and a 6 or 8 team football playoff develop. The ACC will be the dream conference of the remaining have-nots. There could be as many as 6 slots to fill.

I would like to see what kind of a shot current ACC members would give Tulane of filling one of those future empty slots. Tulane and Rice are the only AAU schools with football teams not in the Big5 current power conferences. I feel Tulane has lots of "potential". The key being potential. Should Tulane show marked improvement in football/basketball over the next 3 years, how would ACC fans like making regular trips down to The Big Easy?

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I think the list would be UConn, Rutgers, Louisville, South Florida, and Cincy. If more were needed than that then I think Houston and SMU would be considered. Then maybe Tulane would enter the picture if there were already Texas teams in.

I agree w/ 4X4hokies... Tulane woud be "on the list", but not at the top of the list.

Welcome aboard!

To summarize the other 30 threads on expansion -- IMHO, no school will be invited until Notre Dame accepts. That's the only remaining school whose inclusion would add value to the ACC's fledging TV deal.

They're also the only school located in a state not bordering the Atlantic Ocean that the ACC would look at.

If the conference survives this FSU flirtation w/ the Big Texas XII, Tulane's attractive b/c of their history with alot of the older ACC schools from their days in the SIAA and Southern Conference.

I wouldn't say Tulane is an insane option. I'd put them somewhere in the 2nd half of the list.

(05-21-2012 11:07 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  I think the list would be UConn, Rutgers, Louisville, South Florida, and Cincy. If more were needed than that then I think Houston and SMU would be considered. Then maybe Tulane would enter the picture if there were already Texas teams in.

Tulane?

You do realize that they are trying to get a 25,000 seat on-campus stadium built and they already know that 25,000 seats will be TOO MANY.

Tulane's hoop arena is 80 years old and seats 3,600 max.

This is why Tulane is trying to get out of the SuperDome (typical Tulane crowd)





Tulane's Fogelman Arena:

Tulane could be a potential addition. Depending, greatly, on who we lose. The two main things Tulane has to do is show it can sellout a 30k on campus stadium, and get a better basketball arena - 8k at minimum.

I'm not sure what Tulane's crowd looks like but I do know the Superdome doesn't look like that now.

(05-21-2012 03:48 PM)OrangeCrush22 Wrote:  Tulane could be a potential addition. Depending, greatly, on who we lose. The two main things Tulane has to do is show it can sellout a 30k on campus stadium, and get a better basketball arena - 8k at minimum.

This...

Tulane has many plusses..but you got to get your stadium built and get close to 30k fans in there. Basketball is secondary. Tulane is 5-7 years away from serious consideration.

(05-21-2012 04:20 PM)4x4hokies Wrote:  I'm not sure what Tulane's crowd looks like but I do know the Superdome doesn't look like that now.

I attended the Syracuse v. Tulane football game last season. The Superdome is very nice. Tulane's crowds are not. We had a few thousand Syraacuse fans and we may have outnumbered Tulane.

(05-21-2012 03:35 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 11:07 AM)4x4hokies Wrote:  I think the list would be UConn, Rutgers, Louisville, South Florida, and Cincy. If more were needed than that then I think Houston and SMU would be considered. Then maybe Tulane would enter the picture if there were already Texas teams in.

Tulane?

You do realize that they are trying to get a 25,000 seat on-campus stadium built and they already know that 25,000 seats will be TOO MANY.

Tulane's hoop arena is 80 years old and seats 3,600 max.

This is why Tulane is trying to get out of the SuperDome (typical Tulane crowd)





Tulane's Fogelman Arena:

I was looking for opinions from ACC members not CUSA-light members.
FYI, AVG. Superdome attendance for Tulane games in 1998 was 33.5K and in 2002 it was 32.5K

2005 UCF avg. attendance? wait for it.........28462.

New Orleans and the surrounding area will support a winner and a competitive team. For multiple reasons (an athletic dept. review, a big storm, administration restrictions), Tulane has spent the last decade wallowing. There has been renewed assurances this is going to change. Easing of athlete restrictions, athlete-friendly majors, the Playbook, etc.

Tulane is getting out of the Dome because they are tired of giving Mr. Benson all the revenue for parking and concessions. The administration has also discovered there is more to the "college football experience" that has been lacking by playing a half hour away from campus in the vacuous world class MBSD. The prososed OCS will be expandable and will hold 40K when the need arises. Now crawl back into your hole, errr, dying nBE bored and pipe down. Prepare to have your beat down on Saturday while you at it.

There are already plans on the books to completely overhaul Fogelman. They just opened a $15 million basketball/volleyball practice facility. And really, as a ucf fan you want to talk basketball smack and you've never even made the tourney.

Enjoy your sanctions, btw.

Tulane has a shot because of academics. If they had better hoops they'd be a Swofford wet dream. Private hoops first school in a large market that doesn't care about them who isn't a threat to make football better.

If the ACC is considering Tulane, they should just close shop as a conference.

(05-21-2012 05:45 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  Tulane has a shot because of academics. If they had better hoops they'd be a Swofford wet dream. Private hoops first school in a large market that doesn't care about them who isn't a threat to make football better.

Can you clarify?

Miami, Boston College, VATech, Pitt and Syracuse were added becase of football. All are dedicated to football. Some play decent hoops. Considering Clemson has had down periods and FSU, too, but they can come back, wouldn't one think that Pitt and Syracuse can do the same?

Pitt and Syracuse made bad hires in efforts to improve football. Both have released the bad hires and replaced them with better coaches/recruiters. The last addition prior to the aforementioned schools was FSU, hardly known as a hoops school at that time. Six football adds, zero basketball adds, just two excellent hoops teams to go along with the football.

I'm all for kicking out the academic dregs and replacing them with Tulane, Rice, SMU, and Rutgers. While we're at it lets change the conference name to the Magnolia League!

(05-21-2012 07:33 PM)esayem Wrote:  I'm all for kicking out the academic dregs and replacing them with Tulane, Rice, SMU, and Rutgers. While we're at it lets change the conference name to the Magnolia League!

Priceless !

Who said Tulane was a candidate? Their name has been thrown around with dozens of others. I haven't heard anything more than that.

(05-21-2012 07:45 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  Who said Tulane was a candidate? Their name has been thrown around with dozens of others. I haven't heard anything more than that.

A Tulane fan asked if we thought his school would be a candidate. I told him they'd be on the list... just not near the top.

(05-21-2012 08:10 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 07:33 PM)esayem Wrote:  I'm all for kicking out the academic dregs and replacing them with Tulane, Rice, SMU, and Rutgers. While we're at it lets change the conference name to the Magnolia League!

Yall might be able to compete in that league in football.

Oh wait, Wake would be there. Nevermind.

Wake has the winning record v. FSU and FSU is the prime mover, the Big 12 may be looking to take Wake and not the tigers. Be careful what you wish for. The same logic you use to deny Pitt and Syracuse are football schools forces you to admit that Wake is the better football school compared to FSU.

(05-21-2012 09:12 PM)HtownOrange Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 08:10 PM)catdaddy_2402 Wrote:  

(05-21-2012 07:33 PM)esayem Wrote:  I'm all for kicking out the academic dregs and replacing them with Tulane, Rice, SMU, and Rutgers. While we're at it lets change the conference name to the Magnolia League!

Yall might be able to compete in that league in football.

Oh wait, Wake would be there. Nevermind.

Wake has the winning record v. FSU and FSU is the prime mover, the Big 12 may be looking to take Wake and not the tigers. Be careful what you wish for. The same logic you use to deny Pitt and Syracuse are football schools forces you to admit that Wake is the better football school compared to FSU.

Really?

Looks to me that in ACC play FSU is 16-4 against Wake Forest. 23-6-1 overall.

Oh, you mean the last 5 years. Wake is 3-2 against FSU. So is Clemson. However Clemson is 4-1 against Wake in the same time frame, so try again.

No slight intended towards Wake was intended in any way.....just trying to disprove some outlandish BS.