(02-24-2012 01:27 AM)Boise fan Wrote:  BYU has 6 games scheduled already for 2013, and 5 for 2014, 2015. They would have to drop a lot of games and pay penalties if this were true. As it is, I'm betting BYU won't come to terms with the B12 anytime soon.

That's been their M.O. for awhile now...

FBSschedules.com has more games then you have listed. In 2013 and 2014 they have 8 games and 2015 they have 5 games scheduled or games that have no date as of yet.
http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/mtn-west...ougars.php

Also they just signed an away game at Nebraska for 2015 yesterday.

(02-24-2012 08:25 AM)brista21 Wrote:  

(02-24-2012 07:53 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(02-24-2012 01:22 AM)TigeRMaNiAc Wrote:  On Wednesday, the 80-year-old Neinas announced that he will be step aside effective the end of June with the anticipation that a new commissioner will be in place by no later than July 1. Leading candidates for the job reportedly include current Conference USA commissioner Britton Banowsky, NCAA interim executive VP of championships Greg Shaheen, West Virginia athletic director Oliver Luck and Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick.

I'm not posting this in doubt. I am just wandering what Louisville fans think of the possibility of Banowsky taking over?

Might make it easier to bring in UC, USF,Memphis along with us

If the BYU negotiation falls apart or they want to go bigger than 12 look for Cincy and Rutgers to be next in line. Not necessarily in that order. Rutgers has friends in WVU and don't let the series talks breakdown fool you but Oklahoma as well. David Boren has mentioned us before and our ADs have a strong relationship.

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I see Rutgers future in the Acc first, the Big 10 second. I just cant picture Rutgers in the Big 12. Might as well stay in the BE until the acc or Big 10 come calling.

Rutgers would be a great add also. I figured the ACC would come calling soon so I didn't list You Guys.

(02-24-2012 07:43 AM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(02-24-2012 01:36 AM)TigeRMaNiAc Wrote:  

(02-24-2012 01:27 AM)Boise fan Wrote:  BYU has 6 games scheduled already for 2013, and 5 for 2014, 2015. They would have to drop a lot of games and pay penalties if this were true. As it is, I'm betting BYU won't come to terms with the B12 anytime soon.

That's been their M.O. for awhile now...

I thought the whole time it would all go down in 2015. I never doubted Wilkie because from what I've seen from him, he's a good poster. But 2015 just seems like the "it" season to do it. I am anxious to see how it will all turn out. Navy is Indy joining in 2015... I just kinda figured that's when it would ultimately go down.

Uh this hasnt actually happened yet...

My thought exactly...

From the article:

It's unlikely that we will see any official announcement regarding expansion of the Big 12 until the conference decides on a new commissioner. League presidents fired former commissioner Dan Bebee in September of last year and replaced him with Chuck Neinas on an interim basis.

On Wednesday, the 80-year-old Neinas announced that he will be step aside effective the end of June with the anticipation that a new commissioner will be in place by no later than July 1. Leading candidates for the job reportedly include current Conference USA commissioner Britton Banowsky, NCAA interim executive VP of championships Greg Shaheen, West Virginia athletic director Oliver Luck and Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick.


Would be funny if Oliver Luck bolted WVU so he could move back to TX as Big 12 Commish...as then rumors would fly he pushed WVU to the Big 12 just to get the Commish job.

Doubt it happens...but it would certainly be a fun "what if?"

That would be both funny and ironic if Luck gets it. My hunch is that Banowsky is in the lead for it, but who knows? Not many fans in C-USA would endorse Banowsky, lol.

(02-24-2012 09:05 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  From the article:

It's unlikely that we will see any official announcement regarding expansion of the Big 12 until the conference decides on a new commissioner. League presidents fired former commissioner Dan Bebee in September of last year and replaced him with Chuck Neinas on an interim basis.

On Wednesday, the 80-year-old Neinas announced that he will be step aside effective the end of June with the anticipation that a new commissioner will be in place by no later than July 1. Leading candidates for the job reportedly include current Conference USA commissioner Britton Banowsky, NCAA interim executive VP of championships Greg Shaheen, West Virginia athletic director Oliver Luck and Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick.


Would be funny if Oliver Luck bolted WVU so he could move back to TX as Big 12 Commish...as then rumors would fly he pushed WVU to the Big 12 just to get the Commish job.

Doubt it happens...but it would certainly be a fun "what if?"

It just might be Notre Dame AD Jack Swarbrick who gets the job, who knows?

He was the runner up to Dan Beebe for the job last time and he is very tight with Deloss Dodds.....

(02-24-2012 08:37 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(02-24-2012 08:25 AM)brista21 Wrote:  

(02-24-2012 07:53 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(02-24-2012 01:22 AM)TigeRMaNiAc Wrote:  On Wednesday, the 80-year-old Neinas announced that he will be step aside effective the end of June with the anticipation that a new commissioner will be in place by no later than July 1. Leading candidates for the job reportedly include current Conference USA commissioner Britton Banowsky, NCAA interim executive VP of championships Greg Shaheen, West Virginia athletic director Oliver Luck and Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick.

I'm not posting this in doubt. I am just wandering what Louisville fans think of the possibility of Banowsky taking over?

Might make it easier to bring in UC, USF,Memphis along with us

If the BYU negotiation falls apart or they want to go bigger than 12 look for Cincy and Rutgers to be next in line. Not necessarily in that order. Rutgers has friends in WVU and don't let the series talks breakdown fool you but Oklahoma as well. David Boren has mentioned us before and our ADs have a strong relationship.

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I see Rutgers future in the Acc first, the Big 10 second. I just cant picture Rutgers in the Big 12. Might as well stay in the BE until the acc or Big 10 come calling.

I personally think we're going nowhere. The ACC is never calling to reunite us with Cuse, Pitt and BC. The Big Ten definitely isn't calling. The Big 12 is actually the most realistic to call but the weirdest fit.

Why are you all acting like this is some sort of confirmation? One rumor cannot confirm another rumor. Only a fact can confirm a rumor. If anything, this rumor makes the original one all the more tenuous.

Let's assume it's accurate. The BYU question is this and this alone: Has the very top leadership of the LDS Church agreed to the move, i.e. are they just going to pull the rug out like they have done previously? Otherwise, it's all just maybe is negotiating a deal and seeing if the Mormon hierarchy will approve it. I would venture this guess: BYU has to be 11 for Louisville to be 12.

(02-24-2012 09:41 AM)brista21 Wrote:  

(02-24-2012 08:37 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(02-24-2012 08:25 AM)brista21 Wrote:  

(02-24-2012 07:53 AM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(02-24-2012 01:22 AM)TigeRMaNiAc Wrote:  On Wednesday, the 80-year-old Neinas announced that he will be step aside effective the end of June with the anticipation that a new commissioner will be in place by no later than July 1. Leading candidates for the job reportedly include current Conference USA commissioner Britton Banowsky, NCAA interim executive VP of championships Greg Shaheen, West Virginia athletic director Oliver Luck and Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick.

I'm not posting this in doubt. I am just wandering what Louisville fans think of the possibility of Banowsky taking over?

Might make it easier to bring in UC, USF,Memphis along with us

If the BYU negotiation falls apart or they want to go bigger than 12 look for Cincy and Rutgers to be next in line. Not necessarily in that order. Rutgers has friends in WVU and don't let the series talks breakdown fool you but Oklahoma as well. David Boren has mentioned us before and our ADs have a strong relationship.

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I see Rutgers future in the Acc first, the Big 10 second. I just cant picture Rutgers in the Big 12. Might as well stay in the BE until the acc or Big 10 come calling.

I personally think we're going nowhere. The ACC is never calling to reunite us with Cuse, Pitt and BC. The Big Ten definitely isn't calling. The Big 12 is actually the most realistic to call but the weirdest fit.

I think there is a future for Rutgers somewhere. I think that the B1G is still waiting for ND. If ND ever joins the B1G, they will bring two or three teams with them and Rutgers' location will make them a candidate. If the B1G does not bite, the ACC will, eventually. Rutgers fits both conferences academics and, they have a nice little market if they can ever win big.

I believe that the B1G wants football tradition, demonstrated by the invitation extended to Nebraska. Nebraska is arguably the weakest member of the conference academically, as evidenced by the fact that they lost their AAU membership. They are also a relatively small market. Other candidates included Rutgers & Missouri, both of which offer better academics and much bigger markets than the school they chose.

I like Rutgers and hope we remain in a conference with them, so I have no desire to diss them. But playing Princeton in the first-ever college football game back in 1624 or whenever it was is not the kind of football tradition the B1G is looking for. So I don't see Rutgers ever going to the B1G. ACC maybe. B1G, never.

(02-24-2012 10:38 AM)SmallVoice Wrote:  I believe that the B1G wants football tradition, demonstrated by the invitation extended to Nebraska. Nebraska is arguably the weakest member of the conference academically, as evidenced by the fact that they lost their AAU membership. They are also a relatively small market. Other candidates included Rutgers & Missouri, both of which offer better academics and much bigger markets than the school they chose.

I like Rutgers and hope we remain in a conference with them, so I have no desire to diss them. But playing Princeton in the first-ever college football game back in 1624 or whenever it was is not the kind of football tradition the B1G is looking for. So I don't see Rutgers ever going to the B1G. ACC maybe. B1G, never.

Wasn't Penn State not exactly on par with Michigan, NW, Illinois et al in learnin' stuff before they entered the Big10? (They have grown I think in a large part due to the Research Consortium and Conference Affiliation) Their last two adds have certainly been football driven. Rutgers sure does look like a big 10 major research school though

A lot of people have made a big deal out of Nebraska losing their AAU membership - but the reality of it is that they lost it due to a change in the requirements. The U. of Nebraska Medical School is in Omaha, while the remainder of the campus is in Lincoln. The AAU wanted to make their membership consist of single-campus facilities. Therefore, Nebraska lost their AAU membership because their medical school is not on campus. That's it.

(02-24-2012 10:07 AM)monty Wrote:  Let's assume it's accurate. The BYU question is this and this alone: Has the very top leadership of the LDS Church agreed to the move, i.e. are they just going to pull the rug out like they have done previously? Otherwise, it's all just maybe is negotiating a deal and seeing if the Mormon hierarchy will approve it. I would venture this guess: BYU has to be 11 for Louisville to be 12.

Good question. Same one I have. The point in the article "BYU is reported to be more flexible in their negotiations this time," IF ACCURATE, likely is speaking to that issue.

(02-24-2012 11:20 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-24-2012 10:07 AM)monty Wrote:  Let's assume it's accurate. The BYU question is this and this alone: Has the very top leadership of the LDS Church agreed to the move, i.e. are they just going to pull the rug out like they have done previously? Otherwise, it's all just maybe is negotiating a deal and seeing if the Mormon hierarchy will approve it. I would venture this guess: BYU has to be 11 for Louisville to be 12.

Good question. Same one I have. The point in the article "BYU is reported to be more flexible in their negotiations this time," IF ACCURATE, likely is speaking to that issue.

THey can be more 'flexible' at the table and the veto is still there (and/or the second thoughts of the church brass). I'm admittedly cynical of BYU and the way the LDS church decides things there, but I think them just being at the table should not stand-in for them being willing/able to commit. (And going from Provo to Morgantown is quite a stretch of land = and each is well over an hour from the major airport, so it's really more travel then it even appears - in essence there will be 3 transcontinental conferences that are unstable to varying degrees)

(02-24-2012 11:41 AM)monty Wrote:  

(02-24-2012 11:20 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-24-2012 10:07 AM)monty Wrote:  Let's assume it's accurate. The BYU question is this and this alone: Has the very top leadership of the LDS Church agreed to the move, i.e. are they just going to pull the rug out like they have done previously? Otherwise, it's all just maybe is negotiating a deal and seeing if the Mormon hierarchy will approve it. I would venture this guess: BYU has to be 11 for Louisville to be 12.

Good question. Same one I have. The point in the article "BYU is reported to be more flexible in their negotiations this time," IF ACCURATE, likely is speaking to that issue.

THey can be more 'flexible' at the table and the veto is still there (and/or the second thoughts of the church brass). I'm admittedly cynical of BYU and the way the LDS church decides things there, but I think them just being at the table should not stand-in for them being willing/able to commit. (And going from Provo to Morgantown is quite a stretch of land = and each is well over an hour from the major airport, so it's really more travel then it even appears - in essence there will be 3 transcontinental conferences that are unstable to varying degrees)

I'm not saying they are committing. I have no idea or opinion, actually. I believe UL is heading to the B12, but I don't know enough about BYU to say the same. I only posted the link for discussion, not as an endorsement of it.

(02-24-2012 08:34 AM)ollin Wrote:  

(02-24-2012 01:27 AM)Boise fan Wrote:  BYU has 6 games scheduled already for 2013, and 5 for 2014, 2015. They would have to drop a lot of games and pay penalties if this were true. As it is, I'm betting BYU won't come to terms with the B12 anytime soon.

That's been their M.O. for awhile now...

FBSschedules.com has more games then you have listed. In 2013 and 2014 they have 8 games and 2015 they have 5 games scheduled or games that have no date as of yet.
http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/mtn-west...ougars.php

Also they just signed an away game at Nebraska for 2015 yesterday.

Great point. While this rumor seems legit, BYU as a program seems to be doing the opposite. No way they're setting up games this far in advance if they're set to join the B12.

(02-24-2012 09:17 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(02-24-2012 09:05 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  From the article:

It's unlikely that we will see any official announcement regarding expansion of the Big 12 until the conference decides on a new commissioner. League presidents fired former commissioner Dan Bebee in September of last year and replaced him with Chuck Neinas on an interim basis.

On Wednesday, the 80-year-old Neinas announced that he will be step aside effective the end of June with the anticipation that a new commissioner will be in place by no later than July 1. Leading candidates for the job reportedly include current Conference USA commissioner Britton Banowsky, NCAA interim executive VP of championships Greg Shaheen, West Virginia athletic director Oliver Luck and Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick.

Would be funny if Oliver Luck bolted WVU so he could move back to TX as Big 12 Commish...as then rumors would fly he pushed WVU to the Big 12 just to get the Commish job.

Doubt it happens...but it would certainly be a fun "what if?"

It just might be Notre Dame AD Jack Swarbrick who gets the job, who knows?

He was the runner up to Dan Beebe for the job last time and he is very tight with Deloss Dodds.....

IMO it'll be either Shaheen or Swarbrick...

(02-24-2012 02:29 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(02-24-2012 09:17 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(02-24-2012 09:05 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  From the article:

It's unlikely that we will see any official announcement regarding expansion of the Big 12 until the conference decides on a new commissioner. League presidents fired former commissioner Dan Bebee in September of last year and replaced him with Chuck Neinas on an interim basis.

On Wednesday, the 80-year-old Neinas announced that he will be step aside effective the end of June with the anticipation that a new commissioner will be in place by no later than July 1. Leading candidates for the job reportedly include current Conference USA commissioner Britton Banowsky, NCAA interim executive VP of championships Greg Shaheen, West Virginia athletic director Oliver Luck and Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick.

Would be funny if Oliver Luck bolted WVU so he could move back to TX as Big 12 Commish...as then rumors would fly he pushed WVU to the Big 12 just to get the Commish job.

Doubt it happens...but it would certainly be a fun "what if?"

It just might be Notre Dame AD Jack Swarbrick who gets the job, who knows?

He was the runner up to Dan Beebe for the job last time and he is very tight with Deloss Dodds.....

IMO it'll be either Shaheen or Swarbrick...

The only way I could see Swarbrick taking that job is if important people at Notre Dame don't want him to stay there.